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Digital Foundry: Hands-on with PS4's PlayStation 2 emulation
- Thread starter chadskin
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Interfectum
Member
Lol Wat? No ps4 CPU it's not enough powerful to handle the emulation but doesn't means it's less powerful; come on now.
ambar_hitman
Member
Its happening isn't it?
I want Shadow of Rome.
I want Shadow of Rome.
entremet
Member
Yeah. Sony has no incentive to offer disc based support since they can't make any money off that. It's mostly all aftermarket these days.
It would be cool, but I'm not holding my breathe.
I don't know about that.
The people that have kept their PS2 collections is a very low. Moreover, you can only really get them in the aftermarket, where Sony makes no money of that.
PS2 BC is still a very niche thing.
Again, it would be great as a gamer, but I don't think these are huge announcements.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
The GOAT!!I just want to be able to play this on my PS4!
Napalm_Frank
Member
There has to be a PSX announcement right now. Gimme dat Ape Escape 2 as a starter for christmas.
Pilgrimzero
Member
If this is true it would be brilliant
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I still don't get trophies, I look at them once every game and then decide to not bother with them since they are utterly pointless.
-MD-
Member
Twisted Metal and Dark Cloud? Mediocre?
Achievements were cool for awhile back in 2005 when they were new but yeah, I'm surprised people are still chasing them 10 years later.
paragonpro
Banned
Wat?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
What the hell? What world is this? Dark cloud mediocre. Ha!
Why wouldn't the PS4's optical drive be capable of playing DVD PS2 games directly from it? It plays DVD movies just fine.
IF they got this working like how the Xbox One handles it I could maybe, MAYBE see them doing something like if you have the disc they only charge you half as much as just buying it "proper" off PSN, but that's the best I would see them doing. And honestly depending on what the prices are that might be reasonable if they are doing actual work and adding trophies etc.
Yes. But it means that only titles available as PS2 Classics on PSN will be playable on this emulator, because even if you have a disc, you still have to download them. So we can forget about, for example, some older licensed games. I hope that these are only my concerns and we will be able to play every game directly from the disc, it would be really awesome.
makingmusic476
Member
Finally. Ffs.
entremet
Member
The issue is that at least XB360 games are still in the major retail channels, although it's getting more sparse every month. PS2 games are not.
Bluekaveli
Member
Gimme gimme
FranXico
Member
It also means no Shadow of the Colossus, since that game never got a PS2 Classics release.
Don't expect PS2 disc based support. It's not happening.
- Realistic expectation: PS2 emulation on PS4 with custom wrappers that provide trophies. $10/pop for a game. You buy them over again.
- Middling cool hope: the emulator allows old PS2 classics to be grandfathered over to PS4 for free, but no trophies are brought over. This seems like it would complicated the messaging of the PS2 emulation announcement, so I doubt it would happen. It's convoluted and there's not really enough won for either Sony or the consumer.
- Moderately cool hope: The new wrapper with trophies hits on a game-by-game basis. You can pay $1-$2 to upgrade your old classics to PS4 with trophies added in. Maybe 10-20 are announced day one.
- Brass ring: they grandfather over old PS2 Classics you previously purchased into this system. You just go to your download list and download them over to your PS4, no new purchase. They include trophies, but this means the emulator isn't universal and is, again, on a game by game basis.
I don't get it. It's really a strange perversion.
Since it's unlikely that they can emulate PS3, it would be really cool if you could buy the right to stream a PS3 game via PS Now on an unlimited basis.
I don't know how cost effective that is, or if its in line with their monthly subscription business strategy, but it would be a great addition to PS1 and PS2 emulation.
I don't know how cost effective that is, or if its in line with their monthly subscription business strategy, but it would be a great addition to PS1 and PS2 emulation.
I own 2 copies.. just in case.
Gamespot was selling them for like $2 years back.
hopefully this time, the game can recognize the PS4 Hard Drive...and PlayStation owners can have those o'l ESPN Highlights goodness.
FranXico
Member
Brass ring is the ideal solution. Just make them cross-buy with the trophyless versions.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
Damn, didn't even know this was a thing. Let's see if this happens.
Yeah, that's the one to hold out hope for but not expect. I'll be really jazzed if they do that.
Haha, it's only because some people has unrealistic perspectives.
There are already PS2 classics for PS3 on PS Store.
capitalCORN
Member
PS2 > X360. Sony wins again!
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
wow, i might finish front mission 3. PSX is gonna be interesting™
FranXico
Member
Allowing a subset of supported PS2 game discs to authorize download and gameplay would be a bonus, but people are not really expecting that.
Edited out a rather rude comment, sorry about that.
Netherscourge
Banned
Wha wha wha whaaaaaaaaaaT?
When the fuck did this happen?
When the fuck did this happen?
NoFaceNico
Member
Pretty cool news! I haven't been following this closely because I expected only a few select titles to be remastered to run on it but it's nice to know that it's an actual emulator.
PS2 is my favorite console and I have tons of games so this is only going to really excite me if we're able to play the old discs. Sony, if you can do that I promise to only buy Sony products from now until the PS4 is obsolete.
PS2 is my favorite console and I have tons of games so this is only going to really excite me if we're able to play the old discs. Sony, if you can do that I promise to only buy Sony products from now until the PS4 is obsolete.
kingwingin
Member
How many titles are even available as ps2 classics? It would be such a waste to not include discs
Kenzodielocke
Banned
In my opinion, digital is fine. I am just worried about the games. I WANT DQ7, Rogue Galaxy and the Shadow Hearts games.
I'll gladly pay another 10 bucks.
SplitYourInfinities
Member
Can't wait to dust off my PS2 games...
oh...
Yeah, no way i'm gonna pay again for games i already own.
oh...
Yeah, no way i'm gonna pay again for games i already own.
Schweinehund
Member
I'd really like a champions of norrath port. It was lacking on ps3, curious what hurdles they have to jump, I'd think it'd be easy with SOE being the one who published it and owns the everquest ip.
Sony are keeping quiet until the full reveal at PSX most likely.
Also very glad to see improved performance and enhanced res. Even if it isnt native 1080p, that's still beyond HD quality for PS2 games, which is a huge upgrade for those of us who don't own a PC.
4 times the original PS2 res is quite a jump for any title.
Also very glad to see improved performance and enhanced res. Even if it isnt native 1080p, that's still beyond HD quality for PS2 games, which is a huge upgrade for those of us who don't own a PC.
4 times the original PS2 res is quite a jump for any title.
AndyMoogle
Member
There are no emulated Xbox games in Rare Replay. Grabbed by the Ghoulies was ported to Xbox One because that was easier than making an emulator for just that one game.