Portugeezer
Gold Member
Better start collecting...
your dollars, because there probably won't be disc-based support.
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Digital Foundry: Hands-on with PS4's PlayStation 2 emulation
- Thread starter chadskin
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Better start collecting...
manzoman96
Member
Also, the ps2 star wars games did show up on my friend's trophy list as ps4 games.
Backfoggen
Banned
I actually checked if it was somehow Aprils Fools.
Silent Hill 2 and 3 please. Make a proper HD collection by just running the original games at higher res.
Silent Hill 2 and 3 please. Make a proper HD collection by just running the original games at higher res.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Man I am irrationally excited for this. This is super cool.
Hopefully they support it well. PS2 classics on PS3 was kind of a mess in terms of the amount of releases.
Personally I think its reasonable to want your digital PS2 classics you bought on PS3 to work on PS4 but don't really feel the same way about actual PS2 discs. Not sure why you would expect 15 year old PS2 games to work on a new system although it'd be nice if they did so, doesn't make a ton of business sense.
Hopefully they support it well. PS2 classics on PS3 was kind of a mess in terms of the amount of releases.
Personally I think its reasonable to want your digital PS2 classics you bought on PS3 to work on PS4 but don't really feel the same way about actual PS2 discs. Not sure why you would expect 15 year old PS2 games to work on a new system although it'd be nice if they did so, doesn't make a ton of business sense.
SictorVullivan
Member
Did you even read the article/watch the video? It says that trophies appear to work by monitoring the game state and using in game triggers as the triggers for the trophies.
Ah, just saw the patent thing. I'm curious to see how those disk triggers work.
Just saw it, thanks.
HanzSnubSnub
Member
I know I'm jumping the gun a little, but PS2 emulation on PS4 would be sweet. PlayStation's most successful console and its library playable on PS4 would be genius.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
FUCK PS3 and VITA games give me 4 PS2 games every month !!
family_guy
Member
PS2 hardware is very difficult to emulate. Probably much more so than 360.
The Last One
Member
Ps1 version was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
The resolution and framerate bumps are just as important (if not more), but the addition of trophies would be less expected even with knowledge of the patent existing. That's probably why it's more talked about at the moment.
All of that together is very exciting to think about if it ends up being true for more games.
Not sure why you'd come to that conclusion when Sony were the ones that kind of pioneered the whole Cross-buy thing.
Why? PS1 emulation was perfect on the PSP, as well as the PS Vita. The problem was clearly with the PS3 itself. There's no reason to assume the PS4 can't or won't handle both PS1 and PS2 stuff just fine.
Huh? PS1 content I've purchased is usable on my PS3, PSP, and Vita. Why are we suddenly assuming Sony is going to make us re-buy those games for the PS1? Nintendo is the one notorious for making people re-buy their old digital titles, not Sony.
Let a man dream.
SictorVullivan
Member
Putting emulated PS2 games in the Playstation Plus lineup would seriously boost the attractiveness of the service in my opinion.
blue_phazon
Member
If this happens, I'll definitely be interested in buying a PS4, since I didn't have a PS2 back in the day
Pilgrimzero
Member
I have all the PS2 games I want in disc form. So...
entremet
Member
It was pretty tame on the PS3. We got some ATLUS games and others, but the rollout was pretty weak.
I complain about the VC all the time, but it made the VC look like an embarrassment of riches.
Hopefully, more publishers get on board.
80s Bad Guy
Banned
Can I get some trophies for Persona 3:FES?
I'll just let myself out.
I'll just let myself out.
WTF am I reading? How does a game become better than a clearly superior one because of trophies of all things?
Iacobellis
Junior Member
My reply was in reference to PS3 emulation, not PS2.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Been reading some strange things on GAF lately too
DJ Lushious
Member
This is cool stuff. I've not yet opened my Vader PS4 and intended on holding off on the downloading the SW Bundle with it. My backlog is just too big!
Memorabilia
Member
If not for their insurance sales (not joking) and the gaming division, Sony would be up shit creek. I hate the idea of having to rebuy too but they're not exactly swimming in cash at the moment. Can't blame em too much for trying to find ways to make quick profit without too much capital investment. Sucks from a consumer standpoint though, especially since I still own a bunch of PS2 games.
Sony has been the king of remasters and psnow. They just love people purchasing the same games over and over
Stereogatari
Banned
Hahahaha. Sony you sly dogs!
Bolivar687
Banned
The emulator sounds like there was actually some decent work put into it compared to others Sony has used. Disc based or not I'm excited.
GasProblem
Member
Really hoping for an announcement for more PS2 games during PSX. And as this seems to be emulation, it surely seems possible. Going from that comparison image the games seem to clean up pretty well.
Yeah, the addition of trophies would be fantastic, but in no way would it make Cross better than Trigger. They're still the same games they always were after all. Don't know why he would even say that.
I've grandfathered PSone classics I bought on my PSP nearly a decade ago onto my PS3. And then my Vita.
No additional charge, and the saves even transferred.
I'm not sure that disc-based emulation of every PS2 title will be possible. If so, then emulator has to have a feature to play games directly from DVDs, it can't simply copy game on HDD because it would be copyright infringement I'm afraid. I don't know if PS4 optical drive is capable of playing DVD PS2 games directly from it.
Cornbread78
Member
Dammit, I want my copy of FFXII back!
Yep. Don't care about trophy support. It's the dream for completionist but I better have the games than having the emulator be put on hold cause trophy support is a must for every title (hell nawwwwwwwww). It damn sure is not.
Someone still needs to make the trophy jpgs and name them and whatnot right?
? Isn't that how Xbox One emulation works for 360 games, you put the disc in to verify that you own it and then you actually are downloading the game from MS? I thought none of the 360 games actually ran off the disc itself, it was just a verification thing. Or am I wrong?
Memorabilia
Member
I thought his original post was in reference to the PS2. Same argument applies though... The PS3 is nowhere near as powerful as the PS4. It was at best roughly 5-10% faster than 360 on paper, which was only realized in exclusives at the end of the PS3s life cycle. For all intents and purposes the two last gen consoles were dead even. Its true the Xbone and PS4 catch deserved heat for lacking on the CPU side compared to, say, the i5 and i7...but its crazy talk to think either last gen console can hold a candle to the PS4 or Xbone.
TheDangerMan
Member
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Ok, to download the game insert the disc
To play the game insert disc
Works for you?
Pai Pai Master
Banned
We already got through one generation of no disc-based PS2 BC, and still people are expecting it
Sakura
Member
You could transfer your digital DSi purchases to the 3DS, and your Wii purchases to the Wii U, so I would disagree with that.
Then if you wanted to get the Wii U version of a digital title, you only had to pay a little bit more if you already owned the game iirc.
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Deleted member 126221
Unconfirmed Member
I guess they could do like the Xbox One where you need the original 360 disc in the drive for authentication purposes, but the actual emulated game is downloaded and installed to your hard drive.
Not that I expect that to happen unfortunately, but I'm sure it'd be doable.
SictorVullivan
Member
No reason why it cant apart from Sony's business decisions. From what I am aware of the PS4 does actually support the PS2 disc format its just that Sony disabled it in the firmware to avoid paying royalties.