BradleyLove
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So relevant. So salty.
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Digital Foundry - Next gen game broadcasting
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So relevant. So salty.
alexandros
Banned
I cannot praise Shadowplay enough, it's a great piece of software. Amazing quality, hardly any performance hit. If you own a compatible Nvidia card you need to try it out.
You know, there's salt, and there's straight up acting like a child. This is the latter.
Sit down, bro. Don't let this get your blood pressure up.
I'd say they're pretty similar and Onlive can get mighty blurry at times too depending on how much movement is on the screen. It's hard to do a 1:1 comparison but I took a few screenshots of the older Assassin's Creed games. Overall I would give the advantage to Onlive which does seem to have better image quality plus 60 FPS. I watched the videos on Digital Foundry and the PS4 streaming quality does look a bit better in motion. Nothing Sony can't improve in the future though.
Liabe Brave
Member
Seriously? Here are several extremely common gameplay scenarios where a single sequence can easily take longer than 5 minutes:
Boss fight
Turret or driving/piloting part in FPS/TPS
Stealth infiltration of fortified area
Room puzzle in exploration game
Achievement/trophy for completing a level quickly
Plus many more, I'm sure. And this is not to mention that the whole point of putting a Share function in the console and button on the controller is to lower the wall between "professional" videos and the masses, and allow everyone to post their discoveries. Just one example: with a 15-minute limit, you could grab all the collectibles in a level, then edit down to show where they each are in a shorter upload.
There are many use cases.
I wish Sony would allow us customization on how far back to record though. Although very useful I rarely need 15 minutes. Most of the things I want to record are just quick "oh that's cool" moments. Hopefully they provide something similar to Microsoft and Onlive where you can quickly record only the past 30 or 10 seconds or so.
You can have that on ps4 too, as long as you have a facebook or twitter linked you can see all the videos and screen shots people on your friends list have uploaded on the whats new feed. Streaming quality when ive changed to best looks real good, i do have 20mb upload though so might be the reason.
TheRealTalker
Banned
they need to refine the PS4 experience before they add extra features
could yield to something good
Also the share button being there really helps
could yield to something good
Also the share button being there really helps
I disagree, I think the best way would be to justy add some tool to edit your recorded clips, at least trim them, and allow like an hour to record in background with some setting.
And before you say "I'll need to scroll through the whole thing to find what I want! I dont like it!"
This is actually really simple, in that trimming software, it would just put a mark at the moment you pressed share ( or started recording, or pressed share again e.t.c.) so you can easily find the needed piece.
Nah streaming quality is preset and does not change with your bandwidth afaik. You probably have a game with no high frequency details and low movement, then stuff can look decent indeed.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
I absolutely hate the Recording parts if the PS4. I can't for the life of me figure out how to edit the videos. Unless I'm extremely dense how do you do it?
I admit that I do watch some streams tho. I already see some girls wanting to make it Well known that they are female gamers by blatantly naming their feed something generic like "Gamer Girl blah blah" all while allowing thirsy SAHARA desert parched dudes ask for request. I mean really tho? It's already starting... Smh
I admit that I do watch some streams tho. I already see some girls wanting to make it Well known that they are female gamers by blatantly naming their feed something generic like "Gamer Girl blah blah" all while allowing thirsy SAHARA desert parched dudes ask for request. I mean really tho? It's already starting... Smh
you can set it so nobody else sees the posts, but then nobody on your PSN friends list can see them either
I disagree, the point is to share cool moments you experience in games not to generate long detailed guides which all of your examples boil down to with the exception of boss fights. Though I think you're underestimating how long 5 minutes is if you think many boss fights are longer
Its not so salty, when You look at other threads, like for example in talks about PC hardware where You have dozen of posts how consoles are values for their money.
How exactly when they cant even handle standard community features that are available on PC for almost decade?
I'm sorry, but sharing quality and features are the biggest fails of those console launches.
We are almost in 2014 and we cant have proper capture features in new machines, its a joke. Freaking smart phones have better software than next-gen entertainment systems that were in production in last 5+ years for billions of dollars.
Liabe Brave
Member
Of course not every instance of every thing I mentioned is going to be longer than five minutes. The point isn't about specific lengths of specific things, it's about consumer freedom. They bought the game, they should get to use broadcasting features however they like, whether or not they're conforming to your own invented "rules".
Indeed, I find it faintly ridiculous that you're trying to put hard limits both on what the Share feature's "point" is, and on what someone can possibly construe as a "cool moment". Neither of those things are yours to define. A little empathy would go a ways here--if somebody feels a real sense of accomplishment after sneaking undetected into a locked castle vault in Thief, and want to broadcast their awesomeness, let them. Just because you wouldn't do it doesn't mean it's pointless to do.
OdysseusVA
Banned
I've been using it quite a bit on PS4 and had one definite instance of a recording that should have been there, not existing. What should have been correct from the claimed timestamp was something I'd recorded much earlier in the day. Quite upsetting because it was a great fight against one of the legendary ships in AC4. What's the best way of letting Sony know that bugs like this exist?
Beside clipping and picture in picture what else would you need? Do people really use those cheesy effects on the XB1?
Annotation and slow-mo have potential. So does splitscreen (which itself requires pan/zoom).
Don't you mean artifacts? Animus needs better video encoding!
... Anyways, I suspect the XB1 having it was purely reactionary to the PS4 having it, you can see that was designed around having it even with a dedicated share button (though I'm still dumb and stuck to tradition and would rather have had Select... especially since instead if that light they probably could've had a fat Share button) whereas the XB1 just expects you to tell Kinect to record and doesn't go back as far. That's actually kind of theme so far it seem: Sony knew what they wanted and built the system around that, while Microsoft seemed sort of lost as to how to iterate on the 360 while winning more of the mainstream crowd while clearly being more technologically advanced. Microsoft can REALLY nail something when everything's firing on all cylinders, but when they're not... well, they've done worse anyway.
Having seen both, I don't think it's reactionary. There were rumours in the leaks last year that talked about game recording for Xbox and PS4. And since most of these features ( outside of the share button on the DS4) I suspect there will be a lot of improvements on both sides.
Double-tap the share button and you have the equivalent of "Xbox, Record That".
That's actually pretty different. Saying "Xbox Record That" will immediately record the previous 30 seconds while double tapping the share button only starts a new recording on the PS4.