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[Pankratous]

The amount of people spreading bullshit about this console on Facebook posts is insane.

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

To each their own, but you're really only buying the Pro for (hopefully) a better gaming experience on one game?

He isn't the only one. BF1 is the only game I plan on playing for a long time and will be more than worth the upgrade if the pro delivers what I think it can.

If GameSpot just put up a video of the normal PS4 version of BF1 running on the Pro... then wow.

Shame on Gamespot for putting that video up when no pro patch is out yet.

 

[icespide]

PS4 Pro is pushing journalists technical literacy to the test. DF is the only one I really care about on this matter

 

[chromatic9]

Please excuse the butt shot. These look like the same quality as the old shots where even PC at 1440p looked sharper.

Looks like 1440p-1620p ballpark. Feels off to suggest its native 4k like or close.

 

[Latimer]

Please excuse the butt shot. These look like the same quality as the old shots where even PC at 1440p looked sharper.

Looks like 1440p-1620p ballpark. Feels off to suggest its native 4k like or close.

I think people were saying it's hard to tell from normal viewing distances, which of course blurs all detail in general.

 

[Coolbgdog12]

Did people forget to mention that the PC version they're showing comparisons for are running at max settings while the PS4 Pro is checkerboard 4K but with regular console settings?

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Looks like quite a big difference on my end. Maybe I'm used to looking at 1440 1620 1800 2160p images.
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The Pro image looks blurry.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

PS4 Pro is pushing journalists technical literacy to the test. DF is the only one I really care about on this matter

its been apparent for years that game "journalists" are just that. They are not experts by any means.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

Please excuse the butt shot. These look like the same quality as the old shots where even PC at 1440p looked sharper.

Looks like 1440p-1620p ballpark. Feels off to suggest its native 4k like or close.

Well yeah. Isnt it known that ROTR for the PS4 Pro uses the equivalent of mid/high texture settings of a PC version?

 

[Movalpolos]

If GameSpot just put up a video of the normal PS4 version of BF1 running on the Pro... then wow.

Did they actually do this...?

 

[Trace]

Please excuse the butt shot. These look like the same quality as the old shots where even PC at 1440p looked sharper.

Looks like 1440p-1620p ballpark. Feels off to suggest its native 4k like or close.

That's not resolution, that's texture quality.

 

[DasPenguin]

I think you're overreacting just a bit.....DF mentions how the pitch is noticeable at times, but another site calls it the "Quietest PS4 to date", so honestly i think this is going to vary based on a ton of factors. Quite frankly, i think this issue needs to be fully explored by one of these review sites and i'm surprised that no one has despite the fact that they've had this console for days or weeks to test it out.

I think we need to wait for more details on this before freaking out.

I just don't want to gamble again on the same premise as earlier. One console might be quiet while the other one is loud. That's how it seemed to be with the original model.

My gaming area is very close to my 2+ year twins bedroom and the PS4 kept waking them up every now and then. Sold it in anticipation for the pro model, because I was sure they made that thing quiet. Really disappointed if that's not the case.

 

[Latimer]

That's not resolution, that's texture quality.

Nah the resolution is noticeable sharper too.

 

[Trace]

Nah the resolution is noticeable sharper too.

Yes slightly, but the vast majority of the difference in that shot is texture quality.

 

[TalonJH]

The amount of people spreading bullshit about this console on Facebook posts is insane.

What are people saying, I'm interested?

Did they actually do this...?

SMH

 

[Kibbles]

Shame on Gamespot for putting that video up when no pro patch is out yet.

Maybe it was a social experiment. All these people acting like they see a difference or saying it looks 1440p, etc lol. Well played Gamespot.

 

[Nevyr]

I just don't want to gamble again on the same premise as earlier. One console might be quiet while the other one is loud. That's how it seemed to be with the original model.

My gaming area is very close to my 2+ year twins bedroom and the PS4 kept waking them up every now and then. Sold it in anticipation for the pro model, because I was sure they made that thing quiet. Really disappointed if that's not the case.

That sounds like a faulty ps4, I am guessing you were using headset so you couldn't hear it?

Volume on tv alone always been louder than any fan I ever had in any console except my 360, I guess.

 

[Movalpolos]

Maybe it was a social experiment. All these people acting like they see a difference or saying it looks 1440p, etc lol. Well played Gamespot.

I somehow doubt it.

 

[Peterthumpa]

Tomb Raider shouldn't be used to showcase the system abilities, the damn thing is an aliased mess even at 4K on PC.

 

[Marty Chinn]

I'm watching the Uncharted 4 video from the OP, and honestly, without a side by side, I can't tell how it's better. It looks the same to me. What doesn't help is the aliasing in the shadows either. I'm sure it is better, but without the point of reference, I can't really notice it.

 

[OdysseusVA]

There isn't a BF1 patch? So people are pretending to notice a difference? Or just doing it for clicks?

 

[platina]

Reworked better lighting on ps4 pro or? It's not black crush.

 

[chromatic9]

That's not resolution, that's texture quality.

Can you not see the grass blades and also the grass and foliage on the previous shot?

Overall res drop is very clear. I already know about it running lower textures, see this old thread
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1278475

Would be more interesting to see PS4 pro vs PS4 and then PC at 1440p

 

[Liabe Brave]

Mhh, I kinda expected a decibel table to be included.

According to the other thread, DF's 55db measurement is 6db less than they measured original PS4. That would be about half the loudness. (Though DF said their Pro testing wasn't thorough yet.)

 

[Ammogeddon]

There isn't a BF1 patch? So people are pretending to notice a difference? Or just doing it for clicks?

I'm pretty sure Sony announced BF1 would be patched by/on Pro release day but they haven't specified exactly what they are doing with it.

 

[Fisty]

Got money to burn?

I don't think there is any doubt that SSD will improve the experience, the question is how much and is the cost justified.

Just like on orig ps4 ( where it was not worth it imho )

There were cuts to loading times by as much as 50% in some cases, Bloodborne especially benefitted from SSD greatly. Boot-up was also quite a bit faster too. Overall it was a modest boost, but now with sata3 it might be a little better

 

[Marty Chinn]

There isn't a BF1 patch? So people are pretending to notice a difference? Or just doing it for clicks?

I think people think they're seeing a difference because they're assuming it's better without knowing if or how it is. It's a placebo effect. I've had a theory that most people wouldn't actually know if it was better or not and just assume/think it is just because they're told it's running on a Pro.

 

[Latimer]

Yes slightly, but the vast majority of the difference in that shot is texture quality.

Yea, AO looks better too.

 

[Jacob4815]

I wanted to play Rise of Tomb Raider in 1080p Enhanced Mode, but that 1080p supersampling (4k High Resolution mode) in the DF video is gorgeous .. sharpness and AA at god level... now I don't know what to choose in my first run ...

 

[Aalvi]

If the game has a pro patch enabling 4k

Is super sampling as simple as plugging pro in a 1080p but picking to do 4k anyway effectively super sampling it?

Or does it have to be a separate patch and option?

So I ask this because FFXv is confirmed to have a pro patch with 4k, and I want to know of that means it's super sampled for my 1080p tv?

This will determine if I buy it day one or not.

 

[DasPenguin]

That sounds like a faulty ps4, I am guessing you were using headset so you couldn't hear it?

Volume on tv alone always been louder than any fan I ever had in any console except my 360, I guess.

Had two different models. Both made just as much noise. My friend has a PS4 and it was nothing like the ones I had. You could hear it through the headphones and it was clearly audible from ten meters away at night time. Hair dryer is a perfect comparison. I played a lot of Last Of Us multiplayer and that was the worst offender.

 

[Fisty]

I think people think they're seeing a difference because they're assuming it's better without knowing if or how it is. It's a placebo effect. I've had a theory that most people wouldn't actually know if it was better or not and just assume/think it is just because they're told it's running on a Pro.

Another thing to consider is DICE have probably already rolled Pro updates into the game, possibly even before gold master. With a dynamic scaling set up it might be tough to notice differences if it caps at 1080p though.

 

[platina]

Better color correction on the hair even in 4k mode? It looks better to me

 

[Always-honest]

Reworked better lighting on ps4 pro or? It's not black crush.

Not sure but the one on the right has better lighting imo.

Better color correction on the hair even in 4k mode? It looks better to me

hair looks better on the Pro here. Maybe because its softer. less artixacts.
Pc is a lot sharper.

 

[Confused Cheeseburger]

Any game that has a Pro patch and renders above 1080p will be supersampled. And since the point of the Pro is 4K, your damn well guaranteed that 95% of those games will be rendering above 1080p.

Beautiful.

So how do you go about enabling pro mode. I wasn't clear if it happens automatically, for that matter how will the game know to super sample?

 

[Fisty]

Beautiful.

So how do you go about enabling pro mode. I wasn't clear if it happens automatically, for that matter how will the game know to super sample?

It's all automatic, unless there are different modes per game in their menus

 

[viHuGi]

Better color correction on the hair even in 4k mode? It looks better to me

Terrible shadows on pc (Medium settings?)

 

[Sesuadra]

Beautiful.

So how do you go about enabling pro mode. I wasn't clear if it happens automatically, for that matter how will the game know to super sample?

They do it automatically or ask you what mode you want

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I apologize if I've missed it, but I only see it mentioned for Tomb Raider. Will Uncharted 4 had a 60 fps mode in addition to 4K mode?

 

[Liabe Brave]

So how do you go about enabling pro mode. I wasn't clear if it happens automatically, for that matter how will the game know to super sample?

Pro should automatically downsample if it's hooked to a 1080p display.

 

[Nevyr]

Had two different models. Both made just as much noise. My friend has a PS4 and it was nothing like the ones I had. You could hear it through the headphones and it was clearly audible from ten meters away at night time. Hair dryer is a perfect comparison. I played a lot of Last Of Us multiplayer and that was the worst offender.

Yikes, sorry, better luck with next one =)

 

[Liabe Brave]

I apologize if I've missed it, but I only see it mentioned for Tomb Raider. Will Uncharted 4 had a 60 fps mode in addition to 4K mode?

Not for singleplayer. Multiplayer on Pro is 1080p60, though.

 

[Sniffynose]

The amount of people spreading bullshit about this console on Facebook posts is insane.

What's a facebook?

 

[Flandy]

Why aren't more games using checkerbox rendering? Judging from the rotr impressions checkberbox sounds like the best way to go?

 

[chromatic9]

That's resolution.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Not for singleplayer. Multiplayer on Pro is 1080p60, though.

darn. ok. Still looking forward to the whole package.

 

[platina]

Not sure but the one on the right has better lighting imo.



hair looks better on the Pro here. Maybe because its softer. less artixacts.
Pc is a lot sharper.

Just mentioned because the blue light is seen in laras left arm clearly on ps4 pro.

 

[Chamber]

So Gamespot put up a 4K/60 video of BF1 that's actually running in 900p?

 

[Karspankey]

Did they actually do this...?

9 Minutes of Battlefield 1 on PS4 Pro at 4K/60fps

Considering that no other outlet, especially DF, have the Pro version of the game makes it seem like they don't know what they are doing, especially since the title is a bit misleading.

 

[2blackcats]

So is the Gamespot Battlefield video a confirmed hoax /idiot move?

I didn't really notice any difference but put it down to YouTube compression and the fact I haven't played single player since release day?

(I did think the smoke looked better from the flamethrower but that's probably a single /multi difference)