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Digital Foundry vs. AC4 PS3/360/WiiU/PS4/XB1/PC (Take shelter)
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Confirmation bias, what is it?
RedNumberFive
Banned
No need to have played the others. It's pretty disconnected from the rest of the franchise.
Uncompressed PS4 shots, I think. The kind Sony won't allow us normals to take with our PS4 yet. Gotta have capture equipment to do it.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
MSAA is still pretty damn awesome. You can't just sort the lack of alpha as making it terrible. It still is pretty amazing on a LOT of games man. Performance aside I will take 2xMSAA over FXAA alone any day of the week. 4xMSAA and you have a really decent IQ.
That being said SG and OG SSAA are tops imo. TSSAA is also amazing for how it basically saved IQ on the PS4.
That being said SG and OG SSAA are tops imo. TSSAA is also amazing for how it basically saved IQ on the PS4.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
timlot is the kind of poster that posts this crap in a thread called "Xbox One hardware breakdown by ExtremeTech.com after HotChips reveal".
These are some screens neoenigma took in the Screenshot thread in case people haven't being blown away yet.
And herein lies the beauty of the PC version. With hardware powerful enough, supersampling will lead to a much better looking game than any of the console versions. However, don't underestimate the amount of hardware needed to run AC4 with that kind of IQ at an acceptable framerate.
Zero fucking chance those are PS4 shots, or even running at native 1080p on PC. They're supersampled to hell and back. That's why they're so clean.
No PC hahaha.
hemtae
Member
Its 1080p on the PS4 now. I'm aware of how good 60fps is (I was going to get a 120hz monitor until g-sync was announced), but ubisoft supposedly borked the PC version.
SwiftDeath
Member
Each there own and all that for sure
PS4 does make a good showing but if framerate is one of your top priorities then yes PC is always going to be the way to go
Ah ok I realize now my comments will have little effect on what he does in a graphics thread
Oh, the other guy said they came from the Next Gen screenshots thread, where one of the rules of the thread is that it has to be from One, PS4, or Wii U. Someone broke the rules, it seems.
I should have known better though, because I played it on PS4 and it looked nothing like that.
ScepticMatt
Member
I would have liked better multi-core utilization, and more efficient 'ultra' setting options, but otherwise it seems fine.
GANGSTERKILLER
Member
Really? Ok, that's nice. I only played AC 1 and I found that game so boring, I just couldn't finish it.
Durrp. I'm dumb. I need to stay out of that thread. It'll make me buy a PC.
RedNumberFive
Banned
There are a few small throwaway references to the old games, but for all intents and purposes AC4 should have been a new franchise.
You know nothing
Jon Snow
GoodCoffeeJoey
Banned
That sharpening filter is a murderer.
I know, bro. I'd easily pay 100 bucks to use multiple mice and keyboards on my PC. Why need to pay more so we can use more peripherals that all accomplish the same thing! I'm with you!
SwiftDeath
Member
I can skip ACIII?
Seriously? I've played up to Revolutions but couldn't get through III been meaning to beat it and move on but no go as of yet
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I question that. The CPU is definitely lacking in comparison to the SIMD heavy CPU's of the PS360... but then again so are PS4's and One's. And it didn't really hinder ACIII. That ran at parity with the PS3 version with minor compromises in comparison to the 360 version. The only thing that changed in that year is the sales of Ubi's titles and the future of the hardware. System documentation got better, the hardware didn't get any worse.
I'd still bet it was monetary.
Mithos
Member
I can... The technical specs "paper" guy, that BLINDLY just accept that because this paper say it, everyone that disagrees are idiots/blind or whatever insult they throw at you.
Any thread about LCD/Plasma/CRT is a good place to find these type of posts, to take one example.
Interesting! Would you describe that experience as "Magical"?
Yea, ac1 was boring, 2 was great, then I moved to 3 and it was very meh.
black flag is just awesome. There is no real tie in with the others, other than them breaking the 4th wall, and saying your dude is the grandfather of connor in the 3rd game, but thats it.
its really its own experience. and they did the series right with black flag. I would not be surprised if it was intended to be a separate pirate game as a new IP.
So no need to have played any other ac game. its got its own real world story going, and the pirate part is its own.
LOL! Perfect reaction GIF!
RedNumberFive
Banned
I played about 4 hours of III, then dropped it, so yes.
shinobi602
Member
Just hits home harder when you actually see it.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Or perhaps "from the future" or "balanced"? Are there any other talking points I'm missing?
ZealousMonkey
Banned
That is like duel Titan stuff right there. No way most people are even getting close and keeping 60FPS. I can dream but my 770 will be just fine at whatever I can manage.
I'm just glad I can finally look at my fellow PS owners and not cringe that they are playing an AC game in fucking megabad IQ.
SwiftDeath
Member
pretty done
Member
Isn't this game pushing more than AC3 though? I never played it due to obvious reasons but I'm pretty sure I read the devs had a hard time working on the PS360 (and assuming Wii U too) versions in comparison to the next gen versions.
You could be right, but it just seems weird that two huge recent titles like Batman and Assassins Creed performing worse than PS3 versions just for monetary reasons, especially considering the different publishers. But then if you are right, then this problem is only gonna get worse as less and less Wii U owners buy third party games.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Picking up ACIV as soon as I can then
Can't wait
Thank you. I have all of them before 3 and cannot play many of them anymore because of TERRIBAD IQ. 2 was just horrendous as most people know with the pop-in. And the others are not much better in terms of IQ. I just can't play through that stuff anymore. 2 is just sooooo bad OMG.
AC3 I might buy when it is 5 dollars but can anyone here clue me in on how bad pop-in is on 3 or the one before that?
shikamaroooo
Member
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Those jaggies.... Yuck. Hopefully future Xbox One titles resolve the sharpening filter.
Sharpening filter is brutal. Wii U's resolution even more so.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
In both cases the PS3/360 versions outsold the WiiU releases by 40 to 1. Since then the WiiU has had 10 months of its first year selling less than 7 year old hardware. Software sales have stagnated further than they were at launch (and they were very bad).
I'd say either ACIV or Batman port teams would be lucky if they had 20 people working on them. Versus the 700 working on the main AC team. Mainly because there isn't money in the WiiU ecosystem. Little investment because likely very little return.
Buy it anyway. It's the best entry in the series, I think (although AC2 is still a really fantastic game and I would strongly recommend playing it).
Better yet, buy AC2 now, and if you like it, know that you'll love AC4. :>
Globalisateur
Banned
WeAreStarStuff
Member
Guaranteed you 90% of people dont even know where that is on PS4, they just put the disc on and play.
It depends on TV, on mine default limited is that fuzzy crap image you see here. Soon as I switch it to Full it looks clean and everything pops.
I bet you these comparisons people dont even switch it to Full they go by "Default" settings and Ps4 like ps3 will always lose on that "pop" image quality factor, textures and resolution that ps4 wins of course
ShadowkillXNA
Member
What does being able to turn on the xbox one by speaking to it have anything to do with the discussion at hand ?
People bring up the $100 price difference because they are speaking of the machines in a context of game consoles and the experience of playing games on these machines. And the ps4 is doing a better of being a game machine than the xbox one.
Btw this thread is about an article comparing the different versions of a multiplat game if you hadnt noticed.
93xfan
Banned
Same here. There's just something nice about being able to expect a perfect frame rate even in the most chaotic circumstances. Not to mention, how often do we get that in an open world game?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
That works on 720p native games, but AC4 is 900p and would still go through the scaler if you set the console to 720p. Do we actually know that the filter is off under those circumstances?
Those aren't reflections. You're seeing the part of the boat that's underwater.
Use of the word "pop" leads me to believe that you're one of those people who's using full incorrectly, and enjoying the crush.
It would be nice to know what framerate the XB1 and PS4 versions are running at. Since the games are locked at a pretty much never wavering 30fps, we know that they are running at something between that and 60. It would be interesting to see if the PS4 version is not only running with more AA and a higher resolution, but also a higher framerate. I get the feeling that this generation is going to be filled with games that look the same on both platforms, but with the PS4 version always running at 180 - 360 lines of resolution higher, more AA, and a locked framerate with the XB1 versions starting to dip below 30 more regularly. I think Watchdogs is going to be one of the most telling games when it comes time to do comparisons.
Also, I really hope the nasty sharpening filter is software based and not hardware based. I know nothing of that tech, so I don't even know if it can be hardware based, but I hope it's not. They need to get rid of that filter as fast as they possibly can because I highly doubt 1080p is ever going to be commonplace outside of sports games.
Also, I really hope the nasty sharpening filter is software based and not hardware based. I know nothing of that tech, so I don't even know if it can be hardware based, but I hope it's not. They need to get rid of that filter as fast as they possibly can because I highly doubt 1080p is ever going to be commonplace outside of sports games.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
We know that PS4 is running at a higher framerate.
PS4 dropped 0 out of 432,000 frames while they monitored it. Xbone dropped some. They didn't say exactly how many.
But yeah, to have that consistency PS4 has to be capable of running well over 30fps.
PS4 dropped 0 out of 432,000 frames while they monitored it. Xbone dropped some. They didn't say exactly how many.
But yeah, to have that consistency PS4 has to be capable of running well over 30fps.
What you talking about?, the quality is soo sharp after the patch that RGF Full makes it even sharper and like those new screens posted here being confused for PC shots.
I seen flickering on AC games since Ps3, so I lower the sharpness just enough but I dont fuzzy textures quality just less flcker.
flamingotripod
Member
looking at the WiiU pic, I thought my vision was just blurry but nope
Unknown Soldier
Member
I actually wonder if they uncapped it how much fps the PS4 could get. The engine seems to be no problem for the PS4 hardware as it is locked exactly at 30 fps no matter how busy the scene gets. I'm assuming it was locked because consistent 30 fps feels smoother than fps jumping up and down all the time.
I imagine this is how Albert and Larry sleep at night after these DF comparisons
Implying they sleep at all after these comparisons. Touching.