goldenpp72
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I mean they already made their money back so why not.
The prequels were amazing, and alongside The Clone Wars, represent the most well realized, unified version of the Star Wars universe. The prequels are legit.
Right now, the only Star Wars anything that I care about is Star Wars Legion, the miniatures game by Fantasy Flight Games. And I was more excited for them announcing the Clone Wars core box than ANYTHING Disney has ever done with the license. Unreasonably excited. I'm gonna paint the shit out of some clone troopers.
The Force Awakens is bad. It's not a terrible movie, but it has a LOT of problems with pacing, logic, and plagiarism. Also, it is a terrible Star Wars movie, a terrible first movie in a trilogy, and feels like someone's poor Star Wars fan fiction (it even comes with a Mary Sue). It was completely mediocre and contributed NOTHING to expanding Star Wars - especially when you consider how much destroying the EU ended up taking away. Both Solo and Rogue One were decent (but not amazing), but they at least contributed to the greater Star Wars canon in their own ways.
I've heard a lot about Star Wars fatigue.. I absolutely do not have it, I'm only tired of shitty Star Wars movies.
In reality, the Star Wars universe is really very small and doesn't do that well with expansion. In theory of course there's limitless planets, stories, races, and things to expand on. And yet it never seems to really work. You still have those same Stormtroopers, those same fighter planes. Over and over.
I think 9 movies dealing with 1 family saga and it’s generations is the thing that’s getting long in the tooth
Your telling me this whole fucking galaxy jumping, interstellar space travel, we’ve stayed for NINE FUCKING MOVIES on the same fucking planets over and over
For fuck sakes, enough Tatooine. Also Tatooine is a FUCKING PLANET!, yet we revisit that small damn city like 8 times. Like holy shit, move the fuck on!
I’d rather Star Wars be a universe where different styles and stories are told. Like one offs.
Give me a Star Wars Saving Private Ryan style StormTrooper movie.
Give me a Jedi on a remote planet dealing with different beasts, overcome obstacles
Like Rogue One showed, it doesn’t have to really need to stitch to the same movies over and over
The stories would play out more anthology style, different but familiar
Give me a bounty hunter Wild West inside a Star Wars universe
You can take some many franchises that have come and give them Star Wars treatment
Fuck I’ll take a Star Wars Jaws or The Meg style movie with Day a $80-100 million budget
George Lucas already wrote episodes 1-3, what more do you want?I absolutely want more from the same characters.. I want Episodes 1-3 and 7-9 wiped from existence, and someone who actually appreciates the originals and understands the world to write new movies.
They squandered their 4 billion dollar investment. The story could have gone to a thousand different places, instead, they decided to re-tell the same story, but worse. Say what you will about Lucas' prowess as a story teller, he was nothing if not original; an auteur marching to the beat of his own drum. Disney may never make something as horrid as The Phantom Menance or Attack of the Clones, but they'll sure-as-shit never make anything as good as A New Hope or The Empire Strike Back. Hence, the disdain.
George Lucas already wrote episodes 1-3, what more do you want?
Its incredibly damning that under Disney's leadership SW has gone from one of, if not the, the biggest event film franchises to a TV thing.
You’re posting in a thread about how they’re movies are going on hiatus. Merchandising sales have declined rather sharply. Their video games have been grossly mishandled. Apart from their comics, fans have largely disengaged with Disney’s Star Wars and their attempts. If that’s not squandering the largest entertainment franchise in the world, I don’t know what is.They did not. Stop being so extreme. They made two good Star Wars movies and one 2 okay movies (I personally liked Ep 8 though). And now they are creating stories for their Disney+ service too. So no, the $4 billion investment is still working for them.
You’re posting in a thread about how they’re movies are going on hiatus. Merchandising sales have declined rather sharply. Their video games have been grossly mishandled. Apart from their comics, fans have largely disengaged with Disney’s Star Wars and their attempts. If that’s not squandering the largest entertainment franchise in the world, I don’t know what is.
You’re posting in a thread about how they’re movies are going on hiatus. Merchandising sales have declined rather sharply. Their video games have been grossly mishandled. Apart from their comics, fans have largely disengaged with Disney’s Star Wars and their attempts. If that’s not squandering the largest entertainment franchise in the world, I don’t know what is.
Squandered in the sense that they've made incredibly poor use of their investment. They have the biggest name in entertainment, a ravenous fan base four decades in the making, and what have they actually done? They've made five movies, admitted that was too much, with the last mainline entry burning out their most ardent fans, and the last stand-alone film being the first in the 40 year history of the franchise to lose money. They've out-sourced their video games, and in seven years we've seen a grand total of two, one of which is the proud home of the most downvoted comment in the history of reddit, and neither of which met their sales targets. Their merchandising - where Star Wars makes most of its money - has been lacklustre and well under expectations (true for a good number of Disney properties). TLJ should have been a product-selling machine - Star Wars is the largest merchandising property in the world - but a movie so poorly received as TLJ doesn't move a lot of toys. Disney has made back its money, but its yet to prove it can actually do anything with the property other than push agendas onto large audiences. Investors aren't interested in breaking even; they want to see Disney capitalising on a fan base hungry for films, comics, toys, video games, products, goods, and services. Instead of ensuring their vast empire was mobilised to meet a demand that has bee going strong for over 40 years, they squandered their investment, and then fanned the narrative that blamed fans for their failings.Squandered would be true if they were selling the Star Wars rights this year to a different company. They are literally releasing Star War Ep 9 this year correct?
Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger said he’s not at all concerned that consumers may be overexposed to the Star Wars brand, but the film franchise will go on “hiatus” after December’s big release.
Strikes me that you are an extended universe fan. So what's different?
I don't like how Finn's character arc was squandered. He was an interesting character, with a cool backstory, and had room to grow.
ah, this is why they eliminated the EU from canon. so they could just do the same thing and claim it as their sole property.
genius.
gonna suck for all the 90s authors, writers, and artists who helped create the EU. gonna get left out in the dust. but hey at least they get to know that someone else will be ripping off their work to the tune of millions, possibly billions of dollars.
This has nothing to do with being female. It has more to do with bad writing and directing.you fucked up, disney. the force isn't female.
Meh, it seems to me that you're pushing you own agenda here. The fact is, the Disney's SW films are the highest grossing SW films of all time. They're also mostly good. They've been a success. The franchise is in better hands than ever before.Squandered in the sense that they've made incredibly poor use of their investment. They have the biggest name in entertainment, a ravenous fan base four decades in the making, and what have they actually done? They've made five movies, admitted that was too much, with the last mainline entry burning out their most ardent fans, and the last stand-alone film being the first in the 40 year history of the franchise to lose money. They've out-sourced their video games, and in seven years we've seen a grand total of two, one of which is the proud home of the most downvoted comment in the history of reddit, and neither of which met their sales targets. Their merchandising - where Star Wars makes most of its money - has been lacklustre and well under expectations (true for a good number of Disney properties). TLJ should have been a product-selling machine - Star Wars is the largest merchandising property in the world - but a movie so poorly received as TLJ doesn't move a lot of toys. Disney has made back its money, but its yet to prove it can actually do anything with the property other than push agendas onto large audiences. Investors aren't interested in breaking even; they want to see Disney capitalising on a fan base hungry for films, comics, toys, video games, products, goods, and services. Instead of ensuring their vast empire was mobilised to meet a demand that has bee going strong for over 40 years, they squandered their investment, and then fanned the narrative that blamed fans for their failings.
They can always invite some back. They invited Timothy Zahn back to do a new Thrawn book, as well as help out with Star Wars Rebels.
You can still buy their books, and technically they never were canon, “expanded universe” was the non-canon label. Now they added another layer of branding to that of “Legends”.
I do wish EU works could still be worked on however.
Mhm - plus many of the EU stuff really fucking sucked. For every Thrawn we had 50 different Darksabers
Meh, it seems to me that you're pushing you own agenda here. The fact is, the Disney's SW films are the highest grossing SW films of all time. They're also mostly good. They've been a success. The franchise is in better hands than ever before.
Mhm - plus many of the EU stuff really fucking sucked. For every Thrawn we had 50 different Darksabers
Yeah they can easily just pick and choose the best bits of the EU and work those into canon (which is what they're doing anyway). Keep the best bits and ditch all the rubbish waste.
I think the implication is that pushing agendas has become the sole focus above all else. Storytelling, developing new characters, creating new worlds and honoring established conventions and legacies have all been brushed aside, because they are considered secondary at best or irrelevant at worst.This has nothing to do with being female. It has more to do with bad writing and directing.