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[Amir0x]

"Seeping everywhere"? Good gods. Sounds like a dangerous thing. I hope other fandoms won't seep as much. Good people like you will be there to voice concerns, though, so we can sleep soundly at night. Otherwise people would be talking about colored horses all over the internet, and we can't have that.

We can't indeed, which is why the mods put a stop to it and so much of the community has this negative feeling toward the brony community. Intent matters, and it's more than a little offputting posting images for a show for young girls everywhere on forums meant for people 13 years or older. It's ok if that's what you're into, man. I keep saying that. Enjoy what you like. Embrace it. Nothing remotely wrong with it.

The rest of the community just shouldn't have to deal with it in every topic. And I think that's fair.

No, but I do think most people who participate in the fandom are.

There's a difference between people who just watch anime/mlp or w/e and people who are in the fandom.

I mean, I agree there's a difference, but I don't think most people in the fandoms are that way either. I just think those people tend to be the ones posting their creepy images everywhere, so the perception can be skewed. But it's not like we can have a poll to answer this once and for all, so I guess we can only go with our feeling on this matter.

 

[The_Kid]

Honestly, it's kind of interesting how many people view most bronies or furries as weird, socially awkward neckbearded geeks who fantasize about their respective fandom in terms of sex. It's also somewhat surprising how many people think that members of these fandoms want to talk endlessly about their favorite characters, or shove it down random people's throats.

I'm not a brony, but I guess I self-identify as a furry? I know the two aren't exactly the same, but there is some distinct overlap in the fandoms. I know a lot of bronies from being in the furry fandom, some of which are the nicest people I've ever met.

If you go to any con, meetup, etc. you are going to find someone who pushes the boundaries of the people around them. But for the most part, everyone there is aware of who these people are (the ones who have no boundaries, talk about sex with characters, etc.) and stay away from them. We don't like the kid on facebook who screams about brony persecution or "fursecution" (yes that's a horrible word someone made up) anymore than you do. Most of us just want to hang out with each other like everyone else does.

Also you'd be surprised how little the sexual side of the fandoms show themselves amongst the larger group.

 

[PSqueak]

If you go to any con, meetup, etc. you are going to find someone who pushes the boundaries of the people around them.

This is true, it reminded me one time i went to an anime convention and two kids who couldn't be older than 14 were pretend raping each other in the middle of the hall, it was the most disgusting thing i had seen in any of the conventions i have been to.

Coincidentally there were a couple of furries in full fursuit in the same con, and they were just, like, chilling not bothering anybody.

 

[DrForester]

We can't indeed, which is why the mods put a stop to it and so much of the community has this negative feeling toward the brony community. Intent matters, and it's more than a little offputting posting images for a show for young girls everywhere on forums meant for people 13 years or older. It's ok if that's what you're into, man. I keep saying that. Enjoy what you like. Embrace it. Nothing remotely wrong with it.

The rest of the community just shouldn't have to deal with it in every topic. And I think that's fair.

So I'm sure if anyone posts a reaction gif, photo or something not related, you get equally as pissed? Glad you weren't in that Babylon Five thread where I posted a Futurama.gif.

it's a problem if it's spammed, but it's not. One lone pony image once in a while seems to piss off no one but you.

 

[Psyrgery ES]

No.

I do wonder why do bronies get such amounts of hatred.

 

[Hex]

No.

I do wonder why do bronies get such amounts of hatred.

There are some creepy videos of some that go a bit too far

 

[oti]

I won't let porn-gaf get slandered like this, porn discussion is the only topic that brings everyone together in calm harmony.

Where does porn-gaf even live? Aren't those threads locked immediately?

 

[dead souls]

Bronies are terrible, but Amir0x is mad because someone posted a pony pic in the thread for a different cartoon he watches?

Where's that Larry David Palestinian Chicken gif when you need it?

 

[Acerac]

as long as you guys can keep it inside your own hilariously bizarre and absurd corners of the internet and stop polluting every other goddamned thread with it. nobody wants to see your weird pony interpretation of barack obama, christ.

Yeah, that never happened on GAF and you know it.

Or maybe you've just convinced yourself otherwise. You REALLY seem to have an issue with ponies.

 

[Kalentan]

Yeah, that never happened on GAF and you know it.

Or maybe you've just convinced yourself otherwise. You REALLY seem to have an issue with ponies.

It seems like he wants a GAF version of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

He's fine with them existing, but he wants them to act like they don't exist.

 

[Fj0823]

It seems like he wants a GAF version of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

He's fine with them existing, but he wants them to act like they don't exist.

He´ll get the official NeoGAF pony.

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

One of my friends has some MLP stickers on his laptop and once when I joined a TF2 game with him playing it was on a pony server, which I gave him some grief about. But he never mentions the show or bronies at all, so I don't really know what to think.
(I never mention furry stuff around him, though, so maybe it's just a kind of Don't Ask Don't Tell situation.)

No.

I do wonder why do bronies get such amounts of hatred.

I think it's because of their visibility. In the past bronies kind of infested wherever they were present and made it all about them. Apparently bronies are the reason gaf even has community threads.

 

[Zee-Row]

I believe you're free to enjoy whatever makes you happy. With that said , No chance in hell i would hang out and acquaint with one.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

No.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Bronies are fine. I have Furry friends.

The problem is that the extreme fans have forever tainted Furry and Brony images.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Yeah, that never happened on GAF and you know it.

Or maybe you've just convinced yourself otherwise. You REALLY seem to have an issue with ponies.

I don't know about the Pony Obama, but at the height of MLP popularity I'm pretty sure Bronies posted so much pony shit in other threads that Evilore made it to where people couldn't post MLP stuff outside of their own community thread.

 

[DrForester]

I don't know about the Pony Obama, but at the height of MLP popularity I'm pretty sure Bronies posted so much pony shit in other threads that Evilore made it to where people couldn't post MLP stuff outside of their own community thread.

There's been other stuff that was spammed so much at one time the mods got tired of it for a while.

The "Neat" picture.
"tldr"
"haters gonna hate"
Dino-Gaf.

 

[SpaceCadetKeon]

He´ll get the official NeoGAF pony.

Oh yeah, I forgot all about Belle Eve. Wasn't there a T-shirt design contest a couple of years ago where one of the winning designs had her on it?

 

[UberTag]

I don't watch The Simpsons, it doesn't bother me when people post it in non Simpsons threads though. It's kinda the same idea.

It should be considered the same thing. But for a lot of people it's not.

Let's say someone is acting cuckoo bananas and you want to share a .gif that illustrates this point...

This one is acceptable.

This one is from a show for "seven year old girls" and makes Amir0x cranky.

See the difference?

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

Oh yeah, I forgot all about Belle Eve. Wasn't there a T-shirt design contest a couple of years ago where one of the winning designs had her on it?

Even today, when you go to the NeoGAF shirt store on Spreadshirt, there are a least three pony shirts.

 

[Acerac]

I don't know about the Pony Obama, but at the height of MLP popularity I'm pretty sure Bronies posted so much pony shit in other threads that Evilore made it to where people couldn't post MLP stuff outside of their own community thread.

Receipts, please?

People who hated ponies trolled threads with obviously incendiary images. Others responded as you may expect, and threads devolved from there.

This happened before you registered for NeoGAF. You haven't got a damned clue what you're talking about.

 

[AnathemicOne]

Receipts, please?

People who hated ponies trolled threads with obviously incendiary images. Others responded as you may expect, and threads devolved from there.

This happened before you registered for NeoGAF. You haven't got a damned clue what you're talking about.

Well, he's not wrong on Evilore shoving all pony stuff into Community.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=30883590&postcount=10391

And lurking and registration/account acceptance waves are a thing in GAF.

 

[Seductivpancakes]

I don't know any bronies and honestly they don't bother me one bit.

Like everyone else who like a certain subject or have a certain hobby, if they're extremely obnoxious about it, they go to go.

People need to learn how to ignore or not give a shit about what people have interests in, or in some cases for this forum, just fucking scroll past a post you don't like or don't even open the thread.

 

[User1608]

I don't like or care for MLP, but goddamn at some of the hate displayed towards even the normal fans. Like, seriously, don't equate or group them together with the weirdos.

 

[SpaceCadetKeon]

Well, he's not wrong on Evilore shoving all pony stuff into Community.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=30883590&postcount=10391

And lurking and registration/account acceptance waves are a thing in GAF.

For reference, the Season 2 (I believe) OT was made like a week before episodes actually started airing, so without much about it to discuss, it basically ended up having a bunch of people either posting fan art or discussing MLP-related things that didn't involve the show proper, usually stuff meant for the community thread. This was keeping the topic on the front page of the Off Topic section with very little to show for it, and for that reason, Evilore deleted it. Some people got upset with him for it, so he locked the community thread for a day. The Season 2 OT was eventually remade much closer to its premiere date.

I did a lot of lurking before getting an account, and I watched as that unfolded.

 

[Acerac]

Well, he's not wrong on Evilore shoving all pony stuff into Community.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=30883590&postcount=10391

And lurking and registration/account acceptance waves are a thing in GAF.

Yeah, there's a difference between moving a thread in to community and "posting so much pony shit in other threads that Evilore made it to where people couldn't post MLP stuff outside of their own community thread." Granted, if you wanted to argue that community was created to host pony and popgaf I wouldn't argue.

You are absolutely correct, people do lurk on GAF. That said, people who read the boards typically know what actually happened, instead of just listening to people who get off on hating candy colored horses for whatever reason. I assumed that if he were lurking, he would have actually seen what happened instead of deferring to people who've been banned discussing this subject. >_>

Legit question, were you around when this all went down? I was, I was in many of the discussions. If there was something I missed years ago, please, link me. I've been asking since before you were a member. To this day nobody produces, it's just the same bullshit.

 

[TipsyArchmage]

It should be considered the same thing. But for a lot of people it's not.

Let's say someone is acting cuckoo bananas and you want to share a .gif that illustrates this point...

This one is acceptable.

This one is from a show for "seven year old girls" and makes Amir0x cranky.

See the difference?

Yes

One is a show aimed at everyone that's so saturated our culture over the last few decades that literally everyone can understand and appreciate the reference

the other is an image from a show that is generally aimed at younger children and will be recognisable to a far, far smaller group of people

 

[AnathemicOne]

Yeah, there's a difference between moving a thread in to community and "posting so much pony shit in other threads that Evilore made it to where people couldn't post MLP stuff outside of their own community thread." Granted, if you wanted to argue that community was created to host pony and popgaf I wouldn't argue.

You are absolutely correct, people do lurk on GAF. That said, people who read the boards typically know what actually happened, instead of just listening to people who get off on hating candy colored horses for whatever reason. I assumed that if he were lurking, he would have actually seen what happened instead of deferring to people who've been banned discussing this subject. >_>

Legit question, were you around when this all went down? I was, I was in many of the discussions. If there was something I missed years ago, please, link me. I've been asking since before you were a member. To this day nobody produces, it's just the same bullshit.

1) How much Pony stuff showed up in main OT after the move?

2) I never called your argument into question, I linked Evilore to state the person you were arguing wasn't "talking out of his ass."

3) I don't subscribe to the thought processes of forum user age elitism, hence me deciding to link Evilore in response in the first place.

4) Yes, I was there lurking. Back then I called myself a brony caught up in the hype of the show in the beginning.

5) I never accused you of "missing anything," any other false accusations you wanna throw at me?

6) Calm the fuck down, don't be an Amir0x.

 

[Shuggananas]

Yes

One is a show aimed at everyone that's so saturated our culture over the last few decades that literally everyone can understand and appreciate the reference

the other is an image from a show that is generally aimed at younger children and will be recognisable to a far, far smaller group of people

Simpsons are relatable, ponies aren't
But I guess that's a bit hard to grasp sometimes

 

[Amir0x]

6) Calm the fuck down, don't be an Amir0x.

*salute* I am proud to be the guy against spamming images from a show for six year old girls hilariously obsessed over by grown ass dudes throughout topics in a forum made for people 13 years and older.

I also think it's amazing how much mileage I can draw from such a simple request, considering we're in a thread where 90% of the participants don't even want to be associated with a brony in real life because of the immense social ineptitude on display by so many of its vocal members. I don't even go that far (i'd have a brony friend, as long as they kept that shit to themselves), but hey - the delicious anger at someone saying keep the image macro spams to their respective communities (of which I said the precise same thing should be true of even things I love like the Mother series) truly brings a smile to my face at this rate. It must come from the same deeply emotionally unnerving well that allows people to put posters of ponies on their wall at the age of 32.

Such blissful schadenfreude, and all because I dared to put up a simple caution sign over these obsessives. Om nom nom. Frankly, it never ceases to brighten up my day. Wonderful stuff everyone

 

[sploatee]

Almost tempted to ask what "furry sex" is to you. Doggy style? Or *must* it involve being wrapped up in a carpet and wearing bunny ears, for it to be legit "furry sex".

(I know you likely don't mean it this way, but it's still funny to see people who think furries are only about sex).

As for Brony friends, not personally, but I know a few that hang around in orbiting circles of friends. They're good people (girls and guys), and don't match up to the 4chan stereotype that's easily pushed around for people to punch down at. Every subculture has its troubles (gamers aren't exempt after all, and many would agree with the "fat and nerdy in mom's basement" stereotype, even if it is a stupid strawman). I watched the first few seasons of MLP and enjoyed it, it was a clever show teaching good concepts, and I can think of a lot of adults that would benefit from it if they could get over their ego long enough to separate content from container. I wouldn't call myself a brony, in the same way I don't call myself a Whovian for watching Dr. Who. You can enjoy something without making it a lifestyle, but if someone wants to go deeper, more power to them.

If someone paints themselves the colours of their sports team and spends thousands of dollars on tickets to watch their war gods beat up someone else's war gods, nobody blinks an eye. Dude buys a Rainbow Dash shirt because they think the character is cool, people lose their shit.

In the modern social network and clickbait headline era, it's easy for people to latch on to culture concepts, either for personal definition, or to punch down at. It's catchy now for fans to give their subculture a snappy name (thank god Steven Universe fans avoided the 'Gemtlemen' branding, in spite of 4chan's best efforts). it gives everyone a nice target, either to follow, or to mock.

Bronies are just the new 'furries' to mock, like hipsters became the new goths, etc.

EDIT: I think this post does a good job of summing it up.

Sorry! Feel like I'm digging a hole here. Basically I'm ok with furries and bronies. I'll leave it at that

 

[brian577]

Simpsons are relatable, ponies aren't
But I guess that's a bit hard to grasp sometimes

Obviously we can't have references that not everyone would be familiar with. I honestly have no idea what movie the Antonio Banderas gif is from but it doesn't bother me. It doesn't have to be familiar to be relatable. It is very clear in the example images what the intent is. I don't recognize that episode of the Simpsons but I don't have to to know the meaning of the image.

*salute* I am proud to be the guy against spamming images from a show for six year old girls hilariously obsessed over by grown ass dudes throughout topics in a forum made for people 13 years and older.

I also think it's amazing how much mileage I can draw from such a simple request, considering we're in a thread where 90% of the participants don't even want to be associated with a brony in real life because of the immense social ineptitude on display by so many of its vocal members. I don't even go that far (i'd have a brony friend, as long as they kept that shit to themselves), but hey - the delicious anger at someone saying keep the image macro spams to their respective communities (of which I said the precise same thing should be true of even things I love like the Mother series) truly brings a smile to my face at this rate. It must come from the same deeply emotionally unnerving well that allows people to put posters of ponies on their wall at the age of 32.

Such blissful schadenfreude, and all because I dared to put up a simple caution sign over these obsessives. Om nom nom. Frankly, it never ceases to brighten up my day. Wonderful stuff everyone

Maybe if you didn't claim to have no ill will towards bronies while simultaneously calling everything we do "garbage"

 

[NCR Redslayer]

Obviously we can't have references that not everyone would be familiar with. I honestly have no idea what movie the Antonio Banderas gif is from but it doesn't bother me. It doesn't have to be familiar to be relatable. It is very clear in the example images what the intent is. I don't recognize that episode of the Simpsons but I don't have to to know the meaning of the image.

Basically, appeal has a lot to do with something being widespread, and things like anime and simpsons have a lot.

 

[Amir0x]

Maybe if you didn't claim to have no ill will towards bronies while simultaneously calling everything we do "garbage"

The entire show is garbage and the entire fandom is hilarious. Sorry. It's trash and the fanbase is genuinely hilarious. I'm sorry you're so emotionally invested in a show that you think calling it garbage is a personal insult, and that you take a fandom over a show for little girls so seriously that you can't laugh at it all.

If it makes you feel better, you may call anything I love trash. I'm not really part of any 'fandoms', but I guess the closest you can say is I am a deep fan of the Mother series. So, you may call it hilarious and creepy if you like and call the entire game series abominable, and I promise I will not give a good half of a fuck. Because I don't define my life by it. Liberating, that.

 

[PaulloDEC]

The entire show is garbage and the entire fandom is hilarious. Sorry. It's trash and the fanbase is genuinely hilarious. I'm sorry you're so emotionally invested in a show that you think calling it garbage is a personal insult, and that you take a fandom over a show for little girls so seriously that you can't laugh at it all.

It's interesting the way you keep bringing up the idea of being able to laugh at oneself, while at the same time saying things that go beyond just having a laugh.

Like, if a friend of mine showed up at my house one day wearing a big hat, and I made some crack suggesting he stole it from Pharrell Williams or whatever, that would be a good example of having a laugh.

If, on the other hand, I told him he looked like a fucking idiot and was a total embarrassment to me, that wouldn't be having a laugh.

If it makes you feel better, you may call anything I love trash.

Amazingly, there are people around who wouldn't do that, even if they actually believed it was trash. They understand that others have feelings, sometimes rational, sometimes not, and do what they can to avoid hurting them when it can be easily avoided.

 

[TipsyArchmage]

It's interesting the way you keep bringing up the idea of being able to laugh at oneself, while at the same time saying things that go beyond just having a laugh.

Like, if a friend of mine showed up at my house one day wearing a big hat, and I made some crack suggesting he stole it from Pharrell Williams or whatever, that would be a good example of having a laugh.

If, on the other hand, I told him he looked like a fucking idiot and was a total embarrassment to me, that wouldn't be having a laugh.



Amazingly, there are people around who wouldn't do that, even if they actually believed it was trash. They understand that others have feelings, sometimes rational, sometimes not, and do what they can to avoid hurting them when it can be easily avoided.

Though like

if my friend showed up wearing a brony shirt or something unironically then I would totally tell him he looked like a fucking idiot and was a total embarrassment

friends don't let friends become bronies

 

[PaulloDEC]

Though like

if my friend showed up wearing a brony shirt or something unironically then I would totally tell him he looked like a fucking idiot and was a total embarrassment

friends don't let friends become bronies

Sounds like he or she could do better than you as a friend. I've worn a brony shirt among friends a handful of times, and they gave no shits. Why should they? It's just a shirt.

 

[brian577]

Sounds like he or she could do better than you as a friend. I've worn a brony shirt among friends a handful of times, and they gave no shits. Why should they? It's just a shirt.

Don't you know that when a friend develops a new hobby you're not interested in you're supposed to disown them?

I can't but feel there's a MLP episode here somewhere.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I do, and they are all Gaffers.

I watched season one, it was fine but it didn't really grab me.

 

[Brerlappin]

Grown men watching cartoons for 7 year old girls and fantasizing about cartoon ponies is pathetic and these people need to take a long hard look at their lives

 

[Lord British]

Let's say someone is acting cuckoo bananas and you want to share a .gif that illustrates this point...

This one is acceptable.

This one is from a show for "seven year old girls" and makes Amir0x cranky.

See the difference?

Well, yes. Don't you?

 

[PaulloDEC]

Grown men watching cartoons for 7 year old girls and fantasizing about cartoon ponies is pathetic and these people need to take a long hard look at their lives

It always amazes me how willing people are to throw phrases like this around on one of the biggest dork collectives on the internet. 90% of us here already look like losers to about 80% of society, and you really wanna go down that road?

 

[Log4Girlz]

Why did I read Bronie Sanders

 

[MindGamingMantis]

It's a good show that's obviously intended for younger kids, but appeals to adults the same way something like Spongebob or similar cartoons do.

You can't compare Spongebob to a show targeted at 6 year old girls.

Spongebob is arguably an adult show half the time.

Spongebob is the Mario of cartoons. It's got the appeal for adults and kids, but what's appealing to both demographics are two completely different things.

You've got the hilarity from the adult jokes and absurdity of how stupid the characters are, and for kids, you've got kid humor and cartoonish melodrama.

 

[Laws00]

I have an online friend and a co worker at my job who is into it.

 

[SummitAve]

It always amazes me how willing people are to throw phrases like this around on one of the biggest dork collectives on the internet. 90% of us here already look like losers to about 80% of society, and you really wanna go down that road?

Speak for yourself. I don't think there is any connection between being a dork, geek, or nerd, and being into children's entertainment.

 

[Cloud Strife]

I want to cross-reference the people saying bronies are creepy with people who play Japanese loli games.

The real question.

 

[Zelias]

Guys, I really just wanted to know what Bronies were. I didn't intend this to be a thread to shit on other people's hobbies or the shows they like to watch. Watch whatever you wanna watch and like whatever you wanna like.

If a mod is thinking about locking this thread go right ahead please.

This is the way pony threads go here on GAF, regardless of intention. If you're interested in learning about the fandom you might want to pop your head into the community thread.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Speak for yourself. I don't think there is any connection between being a dork, geek, or nerd, and being into children's entertainment.

I'm pretty sure a big part of geekhood is being really into media or products that are unknown or looked down upon by the mainstream.

 

[SummitAve]

I'm pretty sure a big part of geekhood is being really into media or products that are unknown or looked down upon by the mainstream.

From an intellectual perspective, it's completely devoid of anything that intrigues or interests me. I don't think geekhood means checking your brain at the door.