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Do you have any "Bronie" friends?

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I knew someone who was a brony and I distanced myself from them. They were into the show too much and was becoming a little into it.
They also wouldn't really fit into my crowd of friends that I hang with.
 
Especially when taking into consideration how many have autism/asberger's etc.

No lies detected. MLP is a show for grade school girls.

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Yeah, I'm out. It's funny how this shtick when bashing on subcultures never changes. "It's full of Asperger" and "It was made for one demographic and anyone outside that demographic enjoying it is clearly defective" are such old jokes, I think everyone knows the punchline by now.

Better stick to Culturally and Socially Approved Content for Your Age, Gender and Demographic, people. Never enjoy anything that wasn't made specifically for you and your perceived age and gender/orientation. Seriously, that kind of thinking is ridiculous.

So you're saying Sonic fanboys became bronies?

Wow.
 
I think people who are Bronies struck gold with the craze. They now have strong communities to belong to and it's super important. Especially when taking into consideration how many have autism/asberger's etc. it's endearing to see all the communial aspects bring happiness and sense of belonging to so many socially awkward people.

Also for people like me who might not feel comfortable socializing with a Brony it's at least good to know they aren't completely alone.

So you're saying Sonic fanboys became bronies?
 
geeez, this thread is still going? y'all feeling nice because now you get to be the jock and bully other nerds for liking something you don't?
 
geeez, this thread is still going? y'all feeling nice because now you get to be the jock and bully other nerds for liking something you don't?

While I've amassed my own criticisms of brony culture over the years, I do agree the behaviour shown in this thread has been a fucking embarrassment.
 
geeez, this thread is still going? y'all feeling nice because now you get to be the jock and bully other nerds for liking something you don't?

Personally, from hindsight, maybe some people need a wake-up call.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.
 
No I don't have personal friends who are. But I have a few friends of friends who are. Honestly, and I mean this as nicely as possible, the people who I know who are into this are very socially awkward. Like one guy (who I think has actual Asperger's) draws terrible shoujo fan art, but does it very seriously. Because these people have such social issues it doesn't bother me and doesn't seem creepy.
 
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Yeah, I'm out. It's funny how this shtick when bashing on subcultures never changes. "It's full of Asperger" and "It was made for one demographic and anyone outside that demographic enjoying it is clearly defective" are such old jokes, I think everyone knows the punchline by now.

Better stick to Culturally and Socially Approved Content for Your Age, Gender and Demographic, people. Never enjoy anything that wasn't made specifically for you and your perceived age and gender/orientation. Seriously, that kind of thinking is ridiculous.

I don't think there's anything wrong with liking a show meant for little girls. I think the problem once again with this discussion is that people fail to grasp the nuance in terms.

Steven Universe (again, I use this due to its female showrunner, and the fact its cast is primarily gender identify feminine) is a show meant for all ages, and is created thematically for all ages. The entire storyline from the word go is quite demonstrably built with adults and younger age groups in mind, with complex elements that are actually written with the type of intellectual depth that requires analysis and is virtually impossible for most children to grasp at its deepest.

My Little Pony is a show meant for little girls, which happened to find a sweet spot that appeals to other age groups as well. They discuss its thematic elements as if they're speaking to a class of young kids and each theme, even when occasionally delving in more sensitive matters, is explained in a manner clearly meant for children, with a slant toward female children. Any adult wanting to peer into these subject matters can gain nothing substantive from this exercise, because the nuance is sucked from the proceedings. It's meant to be simple, easily digestible and completely devoid of controversy. Of the ten or so episodes I've seen thanks to my niece, not a single one was elevated beyond the depth of a book for a seven year old.

This is not to say an adult is "wrong" for liking MLP. They are not 'wrong' for thinking it's totes awesome to buy rainbow flurry fuck dolls and drooling over MLP "lore." But one show is demonstrably for little girls and adults happen to also like watching it, and one show is built from the very word go for all ages and has the writing and nuance for adult intellectual analysis. Again, I do not mean this as an insult to MLP. But the fact that some people seem to get offended at calling MLP a show for little girls is ridiculous. That's what it is. Just as some shows are for little boys, some are for adults, and some are for all ages. And none are wrong if they all somehow have cross appeal, despite their target audience.

It is not 'wrong' if for some reason you decided all day long to obsess over Dora the Explorer. That's fine. You be you and enjoy what you enjoy. But Dora the Explorer remains a show for preschoolers, despite whatever cross appeal it may have found. And I think the distinction is important, because once again it is not semantics. Just as understanding some movies are simple and some movies are far deeper is not "pretentious", it's the simple reality that place these works in context.
 
This is not to say an adult is "wrong" for liking MLP. They are not 'wrong' for thinking it's totes awesome to buy rainbow flurry fuck dolls and drooling over MLP "lore." But one show is demonstrably for little girls and adults happen to also like watching it, and one show is built from the very word go for all ages and has the writing and nuance for adult intellectual analysis. Again, I do not mean this as an insult to MLP. But the fact that some people seem to get offended at calling MLP a show for little girls is ridiculous. That's what it is. Just as some shows are for little boys, some are for adults, and some are for all ages. And none are wrong if they all somehow have cross appeal, despite their target audience.

Man, you were going so well up til the bolded. It was all thoughtful and respectful and everything.
 
Man, you were going so well up til the bolded. It was all thoughtful and respectful and everything.

The fact that you allowed yourself to get sidetracked from a substantive point because you didn't like the phrase "rainbow flurry fuck doll" and "drooling over MLP lore" says about it all about the fanbase.

Bro, this whole thread is not respectful to the brony fanbase. I don't respect it, other than saying ya'll all entitled to enjoy what you like. The brony fanbase is absurd and obscene, self-evidently. I don't need to throw fuel on that fire. But respecting that fanbase is not required to understand the point I was making about a show being made for specific audiences. If you don't have any real response to that, that's cool mang. Nobody is paying you to obsess over MLP in this topic too, so if a post is annoying to you feel free to skip it instead of wasting time.
 
The fact that you allowed yourself to get sidetracked from a substantive point because you didn't like the phrase "rainbow flurry fuck doll" and "drooling over MLP lore" says about it all about the fanbase.

I read the whole thing. I don't disagree with it, for the most part. You just came super close to getting your point across with being a jerk about it.
 
I read the whole thing. I don't disagree with it, for the most part. You just came super close to getting your point across with being a jerk about it.

I think part of the problem is you care what other people think about your brony fandom. That's the real issue that always reveals itself in these threads. It's not that you guys like My Little Pony and obsess over it. It's that you guys really, really care that other people don't make fun of the fact. You think we're "jerks" because we don't speak of the fandom in hushed tones and reverence. Dude, brony fandom is absurd. It just is. If you can't embrace that, then you're taking My Little Pony too seriously already.

The problem is that despite your best argument that you don't care and you're just being individuals who like what you like, deep down there's this desperation for validation. And the point I'm making is who gives a fuck what I think about the MLP fandom? Seriously, who? You guys already went down the road of obsessing over MLP. Embrace that shit, stop giving a fuck how respectful others are about the silliness of it all. It is silly.
 
The brony fanbase is absurd and obscene, self-evidently.

what? since when is it obscene to be a fan of something as innocuous as a cartoon? not a brony, but some people that worked on that show worked on some cartoons I like. it's not absurd and obscene to like a cartoon is it? or are we still in the backwards teenage mindset that there is only kid stuff and adult stuff, and there isn't such a thing as all-ages entertainment?

sure some people take it crazy far and that's weird. but the average "brony" isn't really that and it's not fair to lump em together.

and the reason even casual fans sometimes call themselves "bronies" is not so much about making it a core part of their identity, but just as solidarity with other fans, to help secure themselves in being a fan of something that other people (people like you) think they should feel insecure about. I think this is something important that shouldn't be overlooked.
 
I think part of the problem is you care what other people think about your brony fandom. That's the real issue that always reveals itself in these threads. It's not that you guys like My Little Pony and obsess over it. It's that you guys really, really care that other people don't make fun of the fact. You think we're "jerks" because we don't speak of the fandom in hushed tones and reverence. Dude, brony fandom is absurd. It just is. If you can't embrace that, then you're taking My Little Pony too seriously already.

Bro, I agreed with most of what you wrote, but come on. People think "they're" jerks because they would apparently completely disown somebody from their circle of friends and claim that they are either mental damaged or sexually deviant if they found out somebody watched a fucking cartoon and kind of liked it.

Asking to not be censured for something so petty isn't exactly an unreasonable request, ordinarily.
 
what? since when is it obscene to be a fan of something as innocuous as a cartoon? not a brony, but some people that worked on that show worked on some cartoons I like. it's not absurd and obscene to like a cartoon is it? or are we still in the backwards teenage mindset that there is kid stuff and adult stuff and there isn't such a thing as all-ages entertainment?

sure some people take it crazy far. but I don't think the average "brony" is really that.

and the reason even casual fans sometimes call themselves "bronies" is not so much about making it a core part of their identity, but just as solidarity with other fans, to help secure themselves in being a fan of something that other people (people like you) think they should feel insecure about. I think this is something important that shouldn't be overlooked.

I don't think they should feel insecure about it at all. They already feel insecure about it, that's the problem. I think the fandom is ridiculous. It is. It's very silly, and every time I've ever seen a topic about it anywhere on the internet it is virtually impossible to keep a straight face. It's hilarious to me. Now, I'm supposed to somehow suppress how funny it is to me because...why? You think I want them to be insecure? I don't. They should embrace what they like if it makes them happy and they're not hurting anyone else.

The problem is that they do want others to accept their fandom in a way that they deem appropriate. The fanbase is ridiculous to me. It is. Every piece of evidence I've seen demonstrates that fact. Is this somehow wrong for me to interpret it this way? Can I change my sense of humour? No. Being a brony is a choice, and it's self-evidently silly and absurd. That's not the same thing as "wrong." That's not the same thing as wanting them to be "insecure."

But once again, the problem is there is no nuance. Bronies actually do want validation for their hobby, and they want people to accept their love in just the way they approve. But they put their fandom in the public, and now they have to accept how others view it. It's not the same as saying it's wrong. Because it's not wrong. It's just hilarious instead. I hope they are happy and they truly fill every waking moment with brony memories if it's what makes them joyful. But it is hilarious.

The secondary problem is that people who outwardly identify as bronies in public have, in my experience as a rule, been extremely socially awkward, to the point where I cannot possibly be friends with them. Many in this topic are expressing a reality of this problem by saying they wouldn't be friends with bronies.

I should be clear that I would be friends with a brony, provided that brony actually did not feel the need to constantly parade that fandom in public, the same way I don't feel the need to parade my love of Lord of the Rings in public. Because I'm an actual human adult who understands that defining oneself by a hobby is a little weird for everyone else around you. And if you cared about their friendship, you'd be cognizant of that fact. Not everyone wants to be sucked into the black hole of social ineptitude.
 
I think part of the problem is you care what other people think about your brony fandom. That's the real issue that always reveals itself in these threads. It's not that you guys like My Little Pony and obsess over it. It's that you guys really, really care that other people don't make fun of the fact. You think we're "jerks" because we don't speak of the fandom in hushed tones and reverence. Dude, brony fandom is absurd. It just is. If you can't embrace that, then you're taking My Little Pony too seriously already.

I think you're a jerk when you characterise the entire fandom as drooling toy-fuckers, you mean.

I know liking MLP is absurd, by the way. I'm comfy with it. Doesn't mean I have to like being called some of the vile shit people call me (or us), even on civilised forums like GAF.
 
I think you're a jerk when you characterise the entire fandom as drooling toy-fuckers, you mean.

I know liking MLP is absurd, by the way. I'm comfy with it. Doesn't mean I have to like being called some of the vile shit people call me (or us), even on civilised forums like GAF.

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I don't think they should feel insecure about it at all. They already feel insecure about it, that's the problem. I think the fandom is ridiculous. It is. It's very silly, and every time I've ever seen a topic about it anywhere on the internet it is virtually impossible to keep a straight face. It's hilarious to me. Now, I'm supposed to somehow suppress how funny it is to me because...why? You think I want them to be insecure? I don't. They should embrace what they like if it makes them happy and they're not hurting anyone else.

Sure, I guess, but you said it's "obscene". That goes beyond not being able to keep a straight face and into implying that it's wrong.

It's difficult for people not to be insecure and defensive when there are people mocking them, saying that liking a cartoon is equal to being into beastiality.
 
Sure, I guess. You said "obscene". That goes beyond not being able to keep a straight face and into implying that it's wrong. If you do think it's harmless then whatever I don't got beef.

When I said obscene, I was clearly referring to the not insignificant portion of the fanbase who has also turned liking a show intended for little girls into a bizarre sexual obsession as well. It's not everyone. So it's absurd in some cases, and obscene in others.

I still don't think it's "wrong" if the cloppers are aroused by fluttershy ass, but it's just another element that is hilarious and, in that case, a bit obscene. Nobody is getting hurt in that scenario either, unless you mean in a "NSFL" sort of way when people stumble upon its terrible deviantart submissions :P

I just find it all funny, what can I say!

I think you're a jerk when you characterise the entire fandom as drooling toy-fuckers, you mean.

I didn't though. The statement meant it's not wrong even if an adult thinks it's awesome to buy rainbow fuck dolls and drool over MLP lore. I was saying that no matter how extreme an adult decides to take the fandom, it's still not wrong - provided nobody is getting hurt.

But this is yet another problem at failing to understand what a statement is actually saying, because you're too busy being offended by others not idolizing your fanbase in the appropriate way and with the appropriate approved language. Did you think I was saying all fans want to fuck ponies or something? Be serious.


I know liking MLP is absurd, by the way. I'm comfy with it. Doesn't mean I have to like being called some of the vile shit people call me (or us), even on civilised forums like GAF.

I agree, and implying bronies are all mentally handicapped/aspies/pedophiles is clearly crossing the line. But it is absurd, and as long as we are all in agreement it's OK to laugh at the fanbase then there's no argument with me.
 
In a world where cosplay exist, where there are huge scifi and comic conventions, a world where pretend entertainment is the best shot for many to enjoy doing things - who gives a shit if there is such a thing as bronies? :D Let people be who they want to be.
 
I mean I'm totally with you insofar as people being able to have a sense of humor about their own absurdities. I like Sonic games*, so I learned that lesson a good decade ago.

*but, like, not all of them, though, jeez, what kind of freak do you think I am? :x
 
I didn't though. The statement meant it's not wrong even if an adult thinks it's awesome to buy rainbow fuck dolls and drool over MLP lore. I was saying that no matter how extreme an adult decides to take the fandom, it's still not wrong - provided nobody is getting hurt.

But this is yet another problem at failing to understand what a statement is actually saying, because you're too busy being offended by others not idolizing your fanbase in the appropriate way and with the appropriate approved language. Did you think I was saying all fans want to fuck ponies or something? Be serious.

Once again, I don't expect idolisation. Just civility.

And believe it or not, people do say stuff like that. All the time. So you'll have to forgive my jumping to conclusions.

I agree, and implying bronies are all mentally handicapped/aspies/pedophiles is clearly crossing the line. But it is absurd, and as long as we are all in agreement it's OK to laugh at the fanbase then there's no argument with me.

As you say, laughter is OK if we can all manage not to cross the line.
 
My boyfriend of 4+ years is (or used to be, not too sure) a brony. He started watched MLP something like 1,5 year into the relationship. Not only he's a fan, he created one of the first fan communities in our country, with something like 24k subscribers (but got bored left it a couple months ago).
He's a perfectly normal and completely socially functional person with a job and lots of friends. "Creepy", "gross" or "basement dweller" are the last words anyone would ever describe him. No pins, no "fuck dolls", no posters, no dumb "inside jokes", no any other merchandise, only a few little blind bag figurines me and couple of friends gave him. From what I can say, for him MLP was kind of transition between anime and western cartoons. Now he's not that into the show, but we watch great stuff like Steven Universe, Gumball, Gravity Falls together.
I've also known some other bronies, well, they're moderately annoying, not the kind of people I'd be friends with.
But still not as annoying as anime fans. My major is Japanese studies, and the class is full of them. They're just fucking worst.
 
My boyfriend of 4+ years is (or used to be, not too sure) a brony. He started watched MLP something like 1,5 year into the relationship. Not only he's a fan, he created one of the first fan communities in our country, with something like 24k subscribers (but got bored left it a couple months ago).
He's a perfectly normal and completely socially functional person with a job and lots of friends. "Creepy", "gross" or "basement dweller" are the last words anyone would ever describe him. No pins, no "fuck dolls", no posters, no dumb "inside jokes", no any other merchandise, only a few little blind bag figurines me and couple of friends gave him. From what I can say, for him MLP was kind of transition between anime and western cartoons. Now he's not that into the show, but we watch great stuff like Steven Universe, Gumball, Gravity Falls together.
I've also known some other bronies, well, they're moderately annoying, not the kind of people I'd be friends with.
But still not as annoying as anime fans. My major is Japanese studies, and the class is full of them. They're just fucking worst.

and of course below them, is Twilight fangirls/boys

the point being there is always a worse fandom out there somewhere, or one just waiting around the corner to reveal itself.
 
and of course below them, is Twilight fangirls/boys

the point being there is always a worse fandom out there somewhere, or one just waiting around the corner to reveal itself.

Well, the thing is, fandoms themselves are all very dumb, imo. It's just a bad idea all around. I fail to see the point of them, except for bringing lots of otherwise very socially awkward and just plain weird people together.
 
Oh hey, it's the periodic NeoGAF brony thread with all the fascinating topics you've come to know and love from all the previous brony threads!

Watch as insecure and close-minded nerds bash other nerds in order to feel better about themselves ! See posters make thinly veiled accusations of bestiality and pehodphilia! Stare as GAFfers engage in debates over what the term "brony" actually means! Marvel as people share their own anecdotes about awkward encounters with bronies in the girls' isle of their local Toys "R" Us! Count the times the word "creepy" gets thrown around as people fail to articulate their vague feelings of discomfort resulting from adults liking a cartoon meant for little girls! Be amazed as armchair psychologists explain how enjoying a TV show is a clear sign of mental illness!

All this and a lot more besides, every few months, only on GAF!
Post of the thread right here.
 
Well, the thing is, fandoms themselves are all very dumb, imo. It's just a bad idea all around. I fail to see the point of them, except for bringing together lots of otherwise very socially awkward and just plain weird people together.

I would say all the fanart is a very big reason. Half the fun of the fandom is seeing all the creative stuff it comes up with.
 
I would say all the fanart is a very big reason. Half the fun of the fandom, is seeing all the creative stuff it comes up with.

as long as you guys can keep it inside your own hilariously bizarre and absurd corners of the internet and stop polluting every other goddamned thread with it. nobody wants to see your weird pony interpretation of barack obama, christ.
 
as long as you guys can keep it inside your own hilariously bizarre and absurd corners of the internet and stop polluting every other goddamned thread with it.

To be honest, that Peridot/pone fanart was kind of cute, well-drawn and related to the topic of the thread.
You haven't seen "hilariously bizarre and absurd" yet if you freak out because of such a innocent thing.
 
as long as you guys can keep it inside your own hilariously bizarre and absurd corners of the internet and stop polluting every other goddamned thread with it.

Why? Any reaction image is fine as long as it isn't a pony? We have Marvel, Star Trek, Star Wars, Disney, and Pokemon reaction images but hold the phone, we can't have ponies, that'd just be weird. And on that note
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Because one is for a show indisputably for little girls and it becomes creepy when you post image gifs of it in every topic, and the other are fandoms for shows meant for adults (Pokemon is annoying too though in every topic and I've definitely seen people say enough is enough of that, sooo). We've been over this. It's ok if there's cross over appeal in any case, but the intent matters. You can do it, but you'll be called out for it every time and then continue to make every one else even more hostile to the fandom and just derail more topics. It's your trade off, but then you guys should probably stop getting annoyed when everyone calls you guys out on your nonsense and makes fun of the entire fandom.
 
Because one is for a show indisputably for little girls and it becomes creepy when you post image gifs of it in every topic, and the other are fandoms for shows meant for adults. We've been over this. It's ok if there's cross over appeal in any case, but the intent matters. You can do it, but you'll be called out for it every time and then continue to make every one else even more hostile to the fandom and just derail more topics. It's your trade off, but then you guys should probably stop getting annoyed when everyone calls you guys out on your nonsense and makes fun of the entire fandom.


What is this "nonsense", that we exist? We don't even bother for the most part because of the backlash and the risk that we might derail a thread and get banned for (gasp) using an image we thought might be appropriate. I honestly can't remember the last time I've seen a pony image on this board outside the relevant threads. I don't even use a pony avatar anymore because I get constant crap for it and know I'm not being taken seriously for that very reason.
 
We don't even bother for the most part because of the backlash and the risk that we might derail a thread and get banned for (gasp) using an image we thought might be appropriate. I honestly can't remember the last time I've seen a pony image on this board outside the relevant threads. I don't even use a pony avatar anymore because I get constant crap for it and know I'm not being taken seriously for that very reason.

Well awesome. What's the problem? You have an entire community for it, and like a zillion fanboy websites and like 98% of the deviantart community. I wouldn't want every topic derailed by MGSV photoshops or Mother photoshops either frankly, so don't think it's personal.
 
as long as you guys can keep it inside your own hilariously bizarre and absurd corners of the internet and stop polluting every other goddamned thread with it. nobody wants to see your weird pony interpretation of barack obama, christ.

Says the person who went ballistics and derailed the SU thread because apparently someone making crossover fanart for both fandoms was too much too handle.

I would rather have a person post one thematically appropriate to thread pony and move on than an asshole go on a tirade about it for 3 pages.
 
It's not just bronies, but it's all part of this internet culture of selfishness; the whole MLP thing being seen as an expression of open-mindedness and sensitivity, of "you don't need to listen to what anyone else says about you". I've known people who were very suggestible, gullible and susceptible to manipulation as it is, with very, very low self-esteem, and I've dedicated a lot of time to helping them, frankly, to grow up. Unfortunately some people get way too into it and the community.

There are folks on the internet with a childishness about them, a real difficulty with concepts of maturity, and the Brony thing feeds right into that. Not only does it embrace that arrested development, but it gives them this constant positive reinforcement, like this kind of regression is "cute", you know? So they get told they're doing fine, they're told everyone else is at fault for trying to help them, for trying to make them stop with this shit. Maybe they draw, and maybe they used to put effort into but now they don'tt because they can draw any old shit with a pony on it and get tons of pageviews, favourites, positive comments. That's what they now basically exist for; praise from strangers on the internet, from a world where there is absolutely nobody going "now hold on a minute".

A while back I knew someone who wouldn't stop talking about My Little Pony! They kept trying to get me to watch it, and I did, I was like "OK, I will watch the best one, show me the best episode", and I saw it, and it's like... I'm a grown man, I don't get anything out of this, there is nothing here to enjoy, nothing to learn. And I don't say that because I don't want to upset them, so I just say "I don't know, it's OK", and they started crying!

I don't hate the show - I think it's well made and performed, for what it is - I don't hate its fans - a couple of my friends watch it and have remained sane, I've had great conversations with (ahem) "moderates", and frankly I've made some money from the fandom a couple of times. But yeah. I dislike bronies and what they do. I dislike that kind of insular culture, I think it's toxic as hell. They probably don't realise the harm they're doing.

Please read all of this if you're going to respond.
 
After I left my career to raise my two babies so my wife could keep her career going, I took a part-time "stupid" job at Walmart to get out of the house. While I was there, I worked with a guy who went full on Bronie. He'd come to work with the shirts, the songs, rub-on tattoos, tell Pony "jokes", talk about Sparkle whatever. Eventhough he wasn't someone I would associate outside of work, he was an alright guy even if he was totally the stereotypical Bronie...
Oh yeah I forget the stage he went through where almost every time I'd see him and we'd be alone, he'd tell me the ways he'd kill me and nobody would know. He'd say shit like "You parked at the top of the lot today, I could wait in the bushes beside your car and slit your throat and nobody would know it was me."
Yeeeeeaaaah... That was fucked.

Speaking of Walmart I also worked with another guy that after his shift he would come out of the bathroom all dressed up like the fucking Ironman. This dude everyday would "suit up" in a full plastic helmet, gloves and what I swear was an Ironman pajama top and and just walk around the store for a bit looking for shoplifters. Everyday the store management would tell him it was time to leave and leave the storewalking to LP, but everyday without fail that motherfucker was back at it, all dolled up like the goddamned Ironman ready to fight crime.

God I loved that guy.
 
Says the person who went ballistics and derailed the SU thread because apparently someone making crossover fanart for both fandoms was too much too handle.

I would rather have a person post one thematically appropriate to thread pony and move on than an asshole go on a tirade about it for 3 pages.

Says the person indeed, that's the whole point. It's cool to keep the almost unhealthy obsessions where they belong, so the rest of us don't have to get dragged into it. I have never posted a single bit of Steven Universe fanart anywhere ever, because I don't define my life based on a show I may like. I discuss it in the topic, and in the topic alone and then forget about it the second I close the thread tab.
 
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