Pureauthor
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Oh goody. Time to instapick Night Stalker/Tiny/QoP more then.
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Dota 2 Beta Thread 3: Gunnar Optiks Required [Faster Loading]
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Oh goody. Time to instapick Night Stalker/Tiny/QoP more then.
Technosteve
Banned
i hate sniper
He's trash. Frint breastwood was wayyy better.
Dreams-Visions
Member
counting down until Centaur nerf.
he's bullshit atm.
he's bullshit atm.
Those changes will not put him down in the slightest. Double edge is way too good. They can remove the damage from stun and he will still be too good.
Finally, a hero besides disruptor to deal with all the bullshit in this game. YOU WANT TO RUN? TOO FUCKING BAD
every game I hear windrunner crying Hit r to win blah blah. Ironic considering shackleshot is so balanced!
They let the naga/rubick/morpling/invoker meta rock for so long, yet they complain about a melee hero putting them six feet under in 20 mins. Whatever Icefrog.
Dreams-Visions
Member
what changes are you referring to when you say, "those changes"? I didn't mention any specific changes myself and haven't read the thread. Have some changes been proposed? My understanding is that Centaur wasn't a big Dota1 pick until this new ult remake but I don't know since I didn't play Dota1.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Got matched up against a team with both Drow and Centaur today (along with Sniper and Rubick)
...it was a massacre. The nerfs can't come fast enough.
...it was a massacre. The nerfs can't come fast enough.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I beat him once with PL.
https://dotabuff.com/matches/54003898
but I promise, damn near all 5 had to focus him down and he had about 30% less farm than me or Drow. Shit is ridiculous. Worse than Lycan ever was.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Centaur's supposedly being nerfed on the ult, it now operates on like a 100/60/40 cooldown, mana cost is increased, and duration goes from 3/4/5 to just 4
And will it be enough? I feel giving every person on your team max movement speed + phase + stun is crazy. I have to admit I know nothing about balance and less about Dota, but playing against him feels like complete bullshit.
sorijealut
Member
Let me know if you have Bones of the Slain Dragon braces/shoulders...!
I wanna finish this set!
I wanna finish this set!
I really didn't find Brad's ult to be that over powered later in the game, but I guess the numbers speak for them selves. Only got to play a few games with him so far, since I am out till Monday. The early game nerf should help him not snowball in the early game.
Prophet Steve
Member
It is still in beta so you need to receive an invite, you can ask around for an invite or sign up for one.
seriously, where the hell is it
The Essences for its Halloween stuff Expire on the 11th (Or did, there was strings in last weeks update saying so). The TF2 Halloween stuff expires the 9th.
My money is on Monday.
There's a thread on community side to ask for invites in. We're not allowed to talk about beta invites in this thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=446322
Becuase the ice path doesnt have a stun delay like it used to and it still stuns if you walk into it after the ice is formed. Also the aoe is bigger i think.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
What do you guys suggest as a good hero to practice with? I'm brand new to Dota 2 although I played LoL a few years back. I like playing AD Carries or AP champs in LoL, basically anything ranged, since I find that's a good way to learn a game without dying constantly in melee range.
Also dumb question - how do I deny? I keep right clicking my creeps but that doesn't do anything.
Also dumb question - how do I deny? I keep right clicking my creeps but that doesn't do anything.
Train of Midnight
Banned
Honestly, it's best to play at least once with every hero. You're going to lose a lot, and it's going to be frustrating, but it will make you a better player.
Also, hit your attack key, default = 'a', and then left click the creep.
Lol with the new gold and xp changes, BH is hella bullshit.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
If you want a nice dumb ranged carry to try picking up, give Viper a shot. But you will need to basically learn the very basics of every hero in the game, and be capable of playing a dozen or more of them proficiently
go back 2 lol
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah I realize eventually I will have to play all the heroes to figure out all their spells and weaknesses, but I just want someone to get me started while I figure out how to play this game in the first place. I thought the transition from LoL to Dota 2 would be easy and seamless but it's anything but. I'll give Viper a shot.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I'd recommend Viper, Lich, and Tidehunter as your learning heroes. Lich is a pretty easy support, Tidehunter is a support/initiator who basically slots into any lineup imaginable, and Viper is a ranged carry with very direct damage output and not a whole lot of subtlety
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
After those, I recommend Night Stalker/Bounty Hunter to get used to the gank meta going on.
Johnlenham
Member
As a total noob im finding Dragon Knight to be an easy guy to play. DOTA Alit Tab is helping thats for sure haha
Hahaha, yeah, so believable that Valve would get ready for an update that'll happen a little over a year.
I'm sure it will come along with Half-Life 3 in 2018
Schweinehund
Member
40 second increase and only 1x strength modifier on rank 1 is huge.
Limiting his options so he can only use it to iniate or help someone escape in the first 10 minutes can impact the game greatly. It was a bit annoying to see someone escape with his ult, then a minute later see him gank with it.
sssstententen
Member
That's the worst two reasons I've ever heard, I expect more out of cyborgmatt.
1. TF2 update is out, as is every other Halloween update. People want the update to END around Halloween, most people won't be on their computer that night.
2. Oh ffs that's just pure trolling. His whole blog revolves around the fact valve only puts things in updates that are upcoming for release.
I personally think maybe Valve shot a little too high for their expectations on their Halloween update and had to push it back? An entire new mode plus a whole new item schema that they've only started putting into the game files as of two weeks ago? I think they procrastinated. Just my opinion. This weekend would have been the perfect opportunity for them to release it, I would've been playing all night every night.
/saltrant
On other terms, I hope Sandy doesn't inhibit my Dodo play.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Just played Drow. I no longer want her nerfed. BWAHAHAHA
I think it's done, but they didn't want to release both the TF2 update and Dota 2 update at the same time. My guess anyway. Dota 2 got the most players ever today (been climbing hard past few days because of all the extra keys) so they have enough players there already. Spreading it out a bit is nice for people who play both as well.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Just played a game as Viper, damn that dude is easy to play haha. Played co-op against bots but I did much better than my first game since I'm starting to get a hang of the game's mechanics. I still don't like how the animations in this game are slower than in LoL, for example if you're running away and you want to throw a quick spell behind you while you keep running. Your dude here will turn slowly, shoot, then turn slowly again and keep running, which takes a long time to do. I died a few times trying to do that.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Who did you play as in your first game?
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Umm that lady on the tiger.
There are two.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Mirana I think?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Ah, yeah, she's cool but a bit tricky if you're rusty
Not every hero has the same turn rates. Some heroes turn faster than others but yeah, just another quirk that was transferred over from Dota 1 to Dota 2.
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