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[Anuxinamoon]

Oh man, you're a gaf member, I'm a big fan of your Dota 2 work so far. Feel free to test drive Leshrac and give me a reason to start playing him again.

I've been searching for the DOTA2 beta OT for some time now, and gave up in futility when crunch for the contest began.
I'm only doing non male characters atm. When I get them all out of my system I'll look at doing some of the beefcakes! Leshrac is defo up there in the awesome beefcaku catagory!

Okay so Pudge is OP against me (especially when I played luna) He was just trolling me by the end, sneaking (lol) in bushes and grappling me into his fart bombs D:

 

[I H8 Memes]

The problem isnt Russians and Brazilians. The problem is that the only Russians and Brazilians who play on US servers are only doing it to troll. Someone in this thread mentioned the other day that he had set his region to only Russian servers and had no problems at all playing with them. Not surprised to hear that at all.

 

[q_q]

I am in an awful losing streak.

The thing is that my matchups are so onesided that games are lost in 5-10 minutes. I don't mind losing, but playing 20-30 mins of a match that is well lost is so tiring... I play against people who pick awesome aggressive combos in lanes and my team makes awuful late picks. I thought It would stop after my win rate evened, but now it's below 50% for the first time since I started and still getting one sided games.

For example in my last game a guy waits until the game has almost started to pick ursa after we already had a jungle Doom, a Sniper has to solo ahrd lane and the ursa gives first blood trying to kill a Skeleton king + Leshrac and I was warding. After that the Doom is already healing at base and Ursa leaves lane, making that 2 jungles while our Pudge is being owned by a very skilled Invoker. After we have lost all t2 towers I look and both our junglers best item is a Vlads

Stop playing all pick if thats what youre playing. Terrible fucking mode.

 

[wakajawaka]

What mode are you playing?

I used to be like you, then I started only playing random draft and now it never gets too depressing.

Thing is I play with friends that are somewhat new, so they can play just a few heroes. And then we get matched with f***ing dendies. I play all the modes when I'm alone or other friends. But you guys are right, all pick makes things worse.

 

[Deadly]

I hate them REALLY long games. Thank fucking god we still somehow managed to win. Sven afks for like 20-30minutes without warning comes back to buy a BATTLEFURY and ninjas aegis. Thankfully, the other team had absolutely no teamwork at all.

 

[Conceptor]

I've been searching for the DOTA2 beta OT for some time now, and gave up in futility when crunch for the contest began.

Would just like to point out that your work is awesome, and welcome to the thread

Stop playing all pick if thats what youre playing. Terrible fucking mode.

Something tells me that All Pick isn't the main reason why his game turned out like it did. I don't think there's anything wrong with AP as a game mode..

 

[Scratch]

Something tells me that All Pick isn't the main reason why his game turned out like it did. I don't think there's anything wrong with AP as a game mode..

for me, AP just turns into a counterpick fest. it also allows for some ridiculously op lane comps and pushing teams. plus whenever a new hero comes out s/he's always instant locked on one team or another. worst part is how people can wait way past the picking phase before choosing their hero, which allows for some of the greatest counterpicks ever on the enemy team, or just the most random, horrible addition to your team comp

AP isn't an awful game mode, but there are a few things wrong with it.

 

[Insured]

for me, AP just turns into a counterpick fest. it also allows for some ridiculously op lane comps and pushing teams. plus whenever a new hero comes out s/he's always instant locked on one team or another. worst part is how people can wait way past the picking phase before choosing their hero, which allows for some of the greatest counterpicks ever on the enemy team, or just the most random, horrible addition to your team comp

AP isn't an awful game mode, but there are a few things wrong with it.

Pretty much this. If someone has not picked yet in the enemy team and you're still contemplating, better not pick something that has a known counter! And if you try to make a decently working team with the friends you're queued up with and despite attempts to tell the last person what your team needs, be prepared for that last-second random bloodseeker after the creep waves have spawned. Both of these things happen so much, urghhhhhhh.

 

[injurai]

for me, AP just turns into a counterpick fest. it also allows for some ridiculously op lane comps and pushing teams. plus whenever a new hero comes out s/he's always instant locked on one team or another. worst part is how people can wait way past the picking phase before choosing their hero, which allows for some of the greatest counterpicks ever on the enemy team, or just the most random, horrible addition to your team comp

AP isn't an awful game mode, but there are a few things wrong with it.

What do you prefer? Single Draft? Because to me CM is pretty awful unless you are in a tournament.

 

[BHK3]

I play every mode, I like all pick the best because getting fucked over with shitty heros in SD and RD is worse then 5 shitty picks in all pick. Captains mode is just russian roulette, literally, put a russian on a team of 5 and spin the barrel and hope he doesn't get captain.

 

[injurai]

I would like an expanded version of singe draft. Maybe 3 heroes of each str,int and agi.

 

[Scratch]

What do you prefer? Single Draft? Because to me CM is pretty awful unless you are in a tournament.

i've never played cm before since I'm mostly a casual player. I like Single Draft and Random Draft, but I feel like I always get last pick for RD and the worst possible combination of heroes I don't know for SD.

i mean even though i talk about how shitty AP is, I still play it the most.

it can be fun...sometimes...and the frustration builds character..haha...why.

 

[Dreavus]

Can't stand CM unless I'm in a five man queue. Even then I usually opt for SD or RD. They both have some issues but the games are usually better than what I seem to get with AP.

I think I like SD the best, even though it's probably the most restrictive. Even in RD my team always seems to draft the dime a dozen carries while the crucial support picks go to the other team (pool dependent). That's not to say SD doesn't have it's problems though.

 

[G-Unit]

I happen to be on a winning streak, finally!

 

[injurai]

I like all pick because I feel I can learn from poor match ups, instead of relying solely on the team build. Not that I ignore the team build.

 

[Hylian7]

I would like an expanded version of singe draft. Maybe 3 heroes of each str,int and agi.

I give you....RANDOM DRAFT. You don't have one guy in charge of your whole team, you aren't limited to three heroes, yet you have a decent pool, and there is no "No I'm not picking you pick first" bullshit, where whoever picks first gets counterpicked automatically. It works well. Sometimes you can have a shitty pool, but you just learn more heroes that way.

 

[G-Unit]

I like all pick because I feel I can learn from poor match ups, instead of relying solely on the team build. Not that I ignore the team build.

Play all until your first 100 wins, then never look back

 

[Sibylus]

Randomly checked out the buffed Chilling Touch on Ancient Apparition... and jesus fuck. Two autoattacks and you've dished out a first level magic nuke in bonus damage, and that's on the first skillpoint. Spread across two heroes in lane, the two could consume one charge with three attacks each and blast somebody down with 300 bonus damage on top of their base damage and innate nukes. I don't see how you could play AA and skip this now.

 

[Soule]

Dotacinema made my day with this little play hahaha so awesome

 

[The Technomancer]

I would like an expanded version of singe draft. Maybe 3 heroes of each str,int and agi.

Random Draft is kinda that, its probably my favorite mode.

 

[HK-47]

Anyone who watches Merlini's stream know of any games I should watch? I dont get to watch streams too much since just watching pro matches takes up too much time as it is.

Also did I just watch gaf get owned on stream?

 

[Gully State]

Merlini running a clinic with beastmaster right now. Micro'ing boar to dominate TA mid (boar to drain refraction and use hawk and boar to get to runes first) and triple double stacking in the jungle as dire and at radiant (Basically stacking 2-3 camps in the jungle at the same time and maximizing axes to hit all three camps when farming them...freakin insane). I've never thought to throw the axes behind me to hit one creep camp and then run behind another creep camp so the return axes nail another camp as well..

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Merlini running a clinic with beastmaster right now. Micro'ing boar to dominate TA mid and triple double stacking in the jungle as dire and at radiant (Basically stacking 2-3 camps in the jungle at the same time and maximizing axes to hit all three camps when farming them...freakin insane). I've never thought to throw the axes behind me to hit one creep camp and then run behind another creep camp so the return axes nail another camp as well..

well damn...

 

[IceMarker]

Stop playing all pick if thats what youre playing. Terrible fucking mode.

Yeah I would switch off AP too if it meant the queue times weren't increased by 4x!

 

[Island]

Yeah I would switch off AP too if it meant the queue times weren't increased by 4x!

Have't noticed too much difference in queue times... and man the level of gameplay goes up a lot. People denying, picking heroes well, knowing when to gank and counter gank, warding and counter warding.... all worth it.

 

[PillowKnight]

Anyone who watches Merlini's stream know of any games I should watch? I dont get to watch streams too much since just watching pro matches takes up too much time as it is.

Also did I just watch gaf get owned on stream?

Yeah, we played poorly.

 

[bzm]

Yeah, we played poorly.

that lokidemi character fed pretty hard i think he might be new player? how did he get into that game!

 

[n0b]

Merlini running a clinic with beastmaster right now. Micro'ing boar to dominate TA mid (boar to drain refraction and use hawk and boar to get to runes first) and triple double stacking in the jungle as dire and at radiant (Basically stacking 2-3 camps in the jungle at the same time and maximizing axes to hit all three camps when farming them...freakin insane). I've never thought to throw the axes behind me to hit one creep camp and then run behind another creep camp so the return axes nail another camp as well..

Yeah Merlini has really been putting in work on his stream in terms of making it informative and useful for learning both newer and more advanced techniques. Depending on where he wants to go I could see him working his way to something like a day 9 kind of figure for dota.

 

[JustinBB7]

Suddenly had a death prophet last night..

-24 wins
-Goes mid, doesn't block
-Boots first

Tell him to go top or bot because Storm Spirit is going mid, he refuses. His friend (440 wins or something) starts with a ring of health after randoming Slark, while he was in the offlane.

Needless to say DP went 0-10 against Pudge.

My friend took it for the team and abandoned so we could all leave. Jesus christ.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Sounds like no one went to gank pudge.

 

[GorillaJu]

Suddenly had a death prophet last night..

-24 wins
-Goes mid, doesn't block
-Boots first

Tell him to go top or bot because Storm Spirit is going mid, he refuses. His friend (440 wins or something) starts with a ring of health after randoming Slark, while he was in the offlane.

Needless to say DP went 0-10 against Pudge.

My friend took it for the team and abandoned so we could all leave. Jesus christ.

That sounds frustrating as hell. Been having a shit day with pubs myself. Had a DK who didnt level up stun first, in a 2v1 against Sniper, with me as CM. He spoke English fine he was just really, really bad. Kept going into the bot lane where Sniper was and dying repeatedly then yelled at us for not coming with him to take tower.

 

[Hylian7]

I was particularly proud of this play today.

 

[Drkirby]

Didn't even get the courier.

 

[Hylian7]

Didn't even get the courier.

I had to pick and choose, and was taking tower hits, and thought Windrunner might use that to her advantage and get a shackle if I attempted the courier.

 

[bzm]

I had to pick and choose, and was taking tower hits, and thought Windrunner might use that to her advantage and get a shackle if I attempted the courier.

coulda clicked her to see her mana

 

[Hylian7]

coulda clicked her to see her mana

Yeah, I didn't think to do that, since I was more focused on just getting out of there. Regardless, I was worried about getting caught in a bad spot and getting autoattacked down, since I took so much tower damage already.

 

[Drkirby]

Pro Witch Doctor here:
https://dotabuff.com/players/31909970/matches?page=11


Also, people on the Dev Boards complain about the match making so much.

 

[PillowKnight]

Pro Witch Doctor here:
https://dotabuff.com/players/31909970/matches?page=11

41% winrate, feels bad.

Also, people on the Dev Boards complain about the match making so much.

We really need leagues, or some specific try hard matchmaking. Albeit people will always complain about matchmaking, cause it's easier than admitting you got outplayed.

edit: wtf.

 

[Technosteve]

Pro Witch Doctor here:
https://dotabuff.com/players/31909970/matches?page=11


Also, people on the Dev Boards complain about the match making so much.

That shitty item build wtf

 

[Phandy]

41% winrate, feels bad.


We really need leagues, or some specific try hard matchmaking. Albeit people will always complain about matchmaking, cause it's easier than admitting you got outplayed.

edit: wtf.

I just want some kind of ELO rating or something so I can see how well I'm doing. In HoN i knew when I was having a bad streak and I knew when I was slowly moving up to 1600 I was getting better. In this there is no indication of how well you can be doing. Even the hero ratings are based on those at your own level, so you have no overall gauge of your skill bracket at all.

Also getting MMed with people with like sub 30-40 is crrazy (me ~300 wins)

 

[Archie]

I think LD said a team ladder was eventually coming.

Don't crucify me, but I think League of Legends has the best laddering system in the genre. There is an unranked AP ladder when you want to dick around and ranked CM solo and team ladders when you want to tryhard.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Don't know why you guys are hatin'. Dude just wants some mana.

 

[IceMarker]

Also getting MMed with people with like sub 30-40 is crrazy (me ~300 wins)

Besides overall game experience, wins mean nothing since the guy could have, say only 3 losses to his 30-40 wins.

Don't crucify me, but I think League of Legends has the best laddering system in the genre. There is an unranked AP ladder when you want to dick around and ranked CM solo and team ladders when you want to tryhard.

Well I certainly agree that there should be ranked and unranked matchmaking.

 

[Drkirby]

The thing is, "Unrankked" is still ranked, its just private.

 

[xero273]

I wonder if we will get update early this week because of the holiday.

 

[Lirlond]

Oh yeah it's thanksgiving this week isn't it.

 

[Archie]

Valve might release it Wednesday if we get anything.

 

[Deadly]

I just want some kind of ELO rating or something so I can see how well I'm doing. In HoN i knew when I was having a bad streak and I knew when I was slowly moving up to 1600 I was getting better. In this there is no indication of how well you can be doing. Even the hero ratings are based on those at your own level, so you have no overall gauge of your skill bracket at all.

Also getting MMed with people with like sub 30-40 is crrazy (me ~300 wins)

I kinda agree with this. I'd like to know whether I'm actually improving or not.

 

[injurai]

I kinda agree with this. I'd like to know whether I'm actually improving or not.

It should be hidden though. Otherwise people will start bitching about their teams performance.

 

[GorillaJu]

After getting put up against three five-stacks in a row tonight, with my team composed of such excellent make-ups as 5 Agi carries or 4 agi carries + me in support... I'm definitely understanding the hate on matchmaking. Yes, I got outplayed - but that's what happens when you have 5 coordinated players who agree who is going to ward, who have a stun rotation, a balance of physical and magical damage, etc.

You simply can't get that kind of organization with a pub team 90% of the time - even outside of language barriers some people just refuse to put their own ideas forward or follow yours. They'd rather call you a n*gger for 45 minutes. It's not just an issue of "play better." Sometimes playing better is impossible, you're trapped in a cycle of death as the enemy team closes out map control through wards and your teammates want to do nothing but AFK farm jungle, where they get ganked repeatedly because the other team warded and they have mobile heroes with disables while you've got a Void, an AM, a Sylla, a TA and a Huskar.

On very rare occasions, you'll get people who are friendly, who don't get angry if you die or if they die, and who will TP when they see you getting tower dived, or pick a hero that works with your line-up, etc. I had one such game tonight where I was Rex and I dominated the entire map because my team jungler was checking runes for me, keeping their lane enemies harassed for easy ganking, asking me to put my bird in certain spots for them, etc.

Yes it's easy to blame your teammates when you've been outplayed or just had an off-game. There is that element to it as well. But what usually happens is 5 people bickering and blaming each other when it's not really anyone's fault - it's because matchmaking put you in a situation that's an uphill battle (at best) to begin with. Legitimate throws happen, but I think they're a rarer situation than unfairly matched teams.