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Dota 2 Beta Thread 3: Gunnar Optiks Required [Faster Loading]
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Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
Didn't happen as often as recently. Really weird. I remb I made a brood mother rage quit with outer world destroyer.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Slark is apparently really hard because he deals no fucking damage and his agi growth is so low that his essence shift barely seems to matter, because I can only land one or two hits in teamfights
Check out the OP~
Thanks but I'm browsing on my phone and those picture links don't seem to work. May I trouble you to post a link to the hero guides here?
http://www.dotafire.com/
For dota hero skill/item builds.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/qckss/new_players_reddits_compiled_guide_to_dota2/
Bunch of good stuff here.
For dota hero skill/item builds.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/qckss/new_players_reddits_compiled_guide_to_dota2/
Bunch of good stuff here.
Thanks. I have a quick question as well.
Was playing yesterday and had farmed up an Eaglesong. Then I bought a Quarterstaff and Talisman from the Shop button at the bottom right which presumably sends the items to my stash in base. This means I need to head back to the fountainto pick up those items to make Butterfly. So I was just going about my business and out of nowhere, I noticed that the BF was in my inventory and my stash was empty without me ever going back to base to pick up the other components. What could have happened here? I think I wandered quite close to the enemies' fountain at one point. Could that have triggered this?
Was playing yesterday and had farmed up an Eaglesong. Then I bought a Quarterstaff and Talisman from the Shop button at the bottom right which presumably sends the items to my stash in base. This means I need to head back to the fountainto pick up those items to make Butterfly. So I was just going about my business and out of nowhere, I noticed that the BF was in my inventory and my stash was empty without me ever going back to base to pick up the other components. What could have happened here? I think I wandered quite close to the enemies' fountain at one point. Could that have triggered this?
Yes you can buy and pick things up at the enemy fountain.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Why does anyone ever pick Anti-Mage in pub games? Why do they do such a terrible terrible thing?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Hmm, pull neutrals to their own creep-wave as much as possible and do nothing else?
play with sanjay
They hate fun.
Lich, Enigma to deny your own creeps.
ES to block your creeps and make them detour so the tower takes more damage.
Chen can send back creeps.
Naix can infest one of your creeps and kill it.
That'd be my team. Be on dire side. Have Lich pull the medium and hard camps top to both get levels from the jungle and to kill your own creep waves. Eidolon cooldown doesn't change with level so there's no need to level him up; he can just stay at the beginning of top lane with clarities and deny a creep every 35 seconds. Same thing with test of faith; cooldown is always 24 seconds so just leave him at base.
Have Naix solo mid so he can get a fast level 6 and then assist in denying creeps. The cooldown is really bad buuut every bit helps. You just have to be careful not to blow up the enemy creepwave when they're pushing into the T3 tower.
ES can block bottom lane or something in the meantime. Either that or you can pick Dark Seer and surge one of your creeps repeatedly so it gets killed off. That's pretty much like a Lich or Enigma.
It also might be better to replace ES with a KOTL so he can fill Enigma and Chen with mana.
ES to block your creeps and make them detour so the tower takes more damage.
Chen can send back creeps.
Naix can infest one of your creeps and kill it.
That'd be my team. Be on dire side. Have Lich pull the medium and hard camps top to both get levels from the jungle and to kill your own creep waves. Eidolon cooldown doesn't change with level so there's no need to level him up; he can just stay at the beginning of top lane with clarities and deny a creep every 35 seconds. Same thing with test of faith; cooldown is always 24 seconds so just leave him at base.
Have Naix solo mid so he can get a fast level 6 and then assist in denying creeps. The cooldown is really bad buuut every bit helps. You just have to be careful not to blow up the enemy creepwave when they're pushing into the T3 tower.
ES can block bottom lane or something in the meantime. Either that or you can pick Dark Seer and surge one of your creeps repeatedly so it gets killed off. That's pretty much like a Lich or Enigma.
It also might be better to replace ES with a KOTL so he can fill Enigma and Chen with mana.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Its on a 40 second cooldown, same as Doom
Yeah, but Devour doesn't work on friendly creeps and Feast is on a 100 sec cooldown.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
I'm slowly getting better. Slowly. I played Lich tonight, and I really like him. I built him full support, with a Mekansm, Arcane Boots, and Drum of Endurance. Unfortunately my team was horrible (not that I expect anything from low-level players like me) and we lost in 31 mins. For some reason my lanemate left me alone and so it was 3 top, 1 mid, and me bot for the majority of the game. So much for using my support items. :[
Wow that alt-tab guide from the reddit link is awesome! Exactly what I needed.
Wow that alt-tab guide from the reddit link is awesome! Exactly what I needed.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Watching competitive games after not having seen any in awhile is so weird. "Those are first picks/bans?!"
Watching this NTH vs. AL game now (was recommended as good on reddit) and Sven was the first pickup. But I guess if the meta shifted more towards ganking than pushing, it sorta makes sense.
Watching this NTH vs. AL game now (was recommended as good on reddit) and Sven was the first pickup. But I guess if the meta shifted more towards ganking than pushing, it sorta makes sense.
Pureauthor
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It's shifted more towards his Cleave being ridiculously good than anything.
Sven received a bevy of buffs in the past while, though even before that he could break faces with farm. Now he is facebreaker supreme.
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Sven#Balance_changelog
http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Sven#Balance_changelog
https://dotabuff.com/matches/65459438
Just had one of the worst experiences with a random in quite a long time. At the beginning of the game Mirana wants to trilane bot, with Death Prophet Soloing the long lane. Shadow Demon and Leshrac wreck her shit, so Mirana is now yelling at Death Prophet when DP was asking for help in her lane. Then a little ways into the game, I miss a couple of hooks in front of Mirana, and suddenly I am the worst Pudge ever. Long story short, Mirana was finding anything and everything to complain about. The whole game she keeps going off by herself, getting ganked by three of them and dying. Toward the end of the game she's mostly straight up feeding, as in being at Dire's outer wall when we're fending off creeps in base.
Then things got weird. I had a chance to send the courier to secret shop to buy my Point Booster and finish my Scepter, and then I had the courier take it back to base. Well when I go back to base, I notice my Point Booster is not there. It's not on the courier, it's not on the ground, it's not in my stash, and the Scepter didn't build, so where is it? Well I have a sneaking suspicion that Mirana may have destroyed it (I muted her shortly after she started yelling at me). Near the end of the game, Shadow Demon says in all chat "...why do I have Pudge's Point Booster?"
Turns out I was sort of right, Mirana took it to top lane between where Dire's T1 and T2 were and left it there. I had bought another one by that time, but that was pretty much the nail in the coffin. Dire was definitely in agreement to report Mirana for griefing, as well as Text Abuse (she complained in all chat, writing essays about how each time I missed a hook, it was the worst hook ever).
Also, I think Mirana needed to look at the scoreboard again.
Just had one of the worst experiences with a random in quite a long time. At the beginning of the game Mirana wants to trilane bot, with Death Prophet Soloing the long lane. Shadow Demon and Leshrac wreck her shit, so Mirana is now yelling at Death Prophet when DP was asking for help in her lane. Then a little ways into the game, I miss a couple of hooks in front of Mirana, and suddenly I am the worst Pudge ever. Long story short, Mirana was finding anything and everything to complain about. The whole game she keeps going off by herself, getting ganked by three of them and dying. Toward the end of the game she's mostly straight up feeding, as in being at Dire's outer wall when we're fending off creeps in base.
Then things got weird. I had a chance to send the courier to secret shop to buy my Point Booster and finish my Scepter, and then I had the courier take it back to base. Well when I go back to base, I notice my Point Booster is not there. It's not on the courier, it's not on the ground, it's not in my stash, and the Scepter didn't build, so where is it? Well I have a sneaking suspicion that Mirana may have destroyed it (I muted her shortly after she started yelling at me). Near the end of the game, Shadow Demon says in all chat "...why do I have Pudge's Point Booster?"
Turns out I was sort of right, Mirana took it to top lane between where Dire's T1 and T2 were and left it there. I had bought another one by that time, but that was pretty much the nail in the coffin. Dire was definitely in agreement to report Mirana for griefing, as well as Text Abuse (she complained in all chat, writing essays about how each time I missed a hook, it was the worst hook ever).
Also, I think Mirana needed to look at the scoreboard again.
You could also use Pugna/Blood Seeker to buff the enemy creeps. Pugna making them unable to be physically damaged, Blood Seeker to give them double damage.
Anuxinamoon
Shaper Divine
Played some crystal maiden games today to get a better feel of the character I was making items for. Man her ult is pretty dope. I was level 11-13 doing very good damage against opposition players. Epic match, Mirana abandoned early, laving sven, myself, chaos knight and sniper to crawl our way back from the brink of disaster; and the opp had at least 7 levels on us. Sniper totally carried us to victory 
Such a good game!
Such a good game!
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Annddd fuck Own3dTV. You can't adjust the time for shit with their VODs. Accidentally clicked on something and got an echo about 36 minutes into that game I was watching, refresh the page to stop it, but you can't skip back to the part where you were watching. It just loads the start. Not gonna watch that much again just to see the end.
Ughhhhh.
Never have this issue with Twitch VODs.
Ughhhhh.
Never have this issue with Twitch VODs.
That was an awesome game to watch, ending was amazing. Can't help but feel let down by the wisp "bug". People say it's not a bug because it worked that way in Dota 1 but it certainly feels like a bug, perhaps an engine limitation? I dunno but it was shit to watch and I can't imagine it adding anything to the game except frustrating people in those kind of one off situations. I hope they fix it
Youtube link
Well that was quick (This was the only player I reported since the last time I got this message):
Ugh, only had 1 similar situation where someone was blatantly griefing even fucking around with the courier and throwing away my gear. It sucks because I remember as juggernaut I had an awesome start and we were all over them and just because they died a few times throw a tantrum, hell I don't even think anyone said anything bad to them they just went batshit crazy not unlike your original post.
Seeing that message a few hours later made me feel so much better, hope it did for you too.
Pureauthor
Member
I'm pretty sure it's almost entirely automated where if you get enough reports by unique senders in a short amount of time it boots you to the LPQ.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
They need to add some kind of courier use history.
That way you can see which person on your team is trying to feed the courier to the enemy team or if they have dropped other people's items.
That way you can see which person on your team is trying to feed the courier to the enemy team or if they have dropped other people's items.
They do, it's called replays. You can still report them after the game is over, just watch the replay if you aren't sure what happened to your items. Lucky for me, Nix noticed my Point Booster at the top of the map, then Shadow Demon picked it up and said "...why do I have Pudge's Point Booster?"
No, mostly cause it doesn't make sense. Items in DOTA are typically defined by the active they bring to the party and it's just a crap shoot.
LET YOUR INSTINCT* GUIDE YOU.
*
If you do not have an instinct, develop one by playing a lot.
Hmm, you can still look at efficiency by categories. For example, in terms of dps per gold, MKB was really efficient in the past. But seeing how much it costs now, I'm not so sure anymore. It's been too long since I played this.
My boss at work made this awesome courier, you guys should all go vote for it because its awesome; appreciate any votes you guys give it <3
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=108934470&searchtext
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=108934470&searchtext
You made me doubt again, so I did a quick test ingame.
First a normal hit on the Dark Troll, tidebringer does 211 damage to the Warlord creep.
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1135167635452814049/7660B77233E5100AB95505C5C6C654046C2F5294/
Same thing but with Medallion of Courage and Slardar's Amplify Damage on the Dark Troll. The melee hit on the Dark Troll now does 339 damage, but Tidebringer still deals the same 211 splash damage to the Warlord creep.
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1135167635452815001/40060B2FF27B040F562180716ED0D3A2DD17F256/
Unless I did something wrong, armor has no effect on Tidebringer's damage.
Or annoying windrunners on other team!
So what happens when someone has action taken against them?
that's awesome,
so what's the walking version? [Edit: i get it piggy back then flying, awesome]
anyway voted.
Think they end up in the low priority queue for a day or longer or something.
Oh, that's disappointing I was hoping for a ban.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Meh it depends sometimes (as in often) that's a bad idea especially in a game like Dota where there's an awful lot of trigger happy reporters (even by players who should really be getting reported) and against players who are just plain new at the game. Unless they recieve a ridiculous amount of reports for good reason, a ban seems uneccessary and would probably be more harm than good.
Well I'm sure that the reports are moderated. Of course it would be for the detriment of the community if any poor sod who got 5 unjust reports got his account banned. I'm talking about the bad-mannered, loudmouth, racist, bigoted, immature few that consistently poison the community.
Those kind of people I wouldn't lose sleep over if they had their dota privileges revoked.
Ok, I think I finally understand how to play Blood Seeker. You Rupture a dood, silence your self, and go to town on him. Still not sure on just what is best on him though, he seems to have survivability issues without any built in damage mitigation. In the end, I just went Yasha into S&Y, a push stick, and picked up a late Skaddi.
It depends... If they're a caster type, silence them, not yourself. It can be fun in pubs to buy Shadow Blade on him. Rupture, then silence yourself and shadow blade, and go to town.
Also Blademail seems to be a popular item. I haven't tried it as I haven't played a single game as BS in Dota 2 yet.
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