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Dota 2 Beta Thread 3: Gunnar Optiks Required [Faster Loading]
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Gully State
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Please don't follow this advice. Yes play every hero but at least test it out in a bot match once. You're fucking over your teammates by doing this...
Dota requires two things. Learning heroes, and learning the aesthetics of the game itself. Generally, keep this in your head. Getting tower nets you and your team not only gold, but more breathing room. This breathing room is invaluable. Ganking becomes easier. You can attempt to take down other towers while the other lane is pushed. This is because, if the lane is pushed, you generally want to farm off of it. Well, that means their team is one less member in defending a tower. And if they do try to bring everyone to defend, then that lane is wasted.
Just read a guide before you play and you'll be fine. Never did bot matches except for heroes like Invoker....
But going in without knowing what to buy or what your skills actually do is not recommended.
MurkyZebra2417
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Why do pro-teams not realise that you have to end the game vs. PL <30 Minutes or ban him out in the first place? Seriously, no hero can turn around a lategame like PL atm.
Gully State
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I've been playing against some really grade F Invokers lately. Just because you go Exhort doesn't mean that you should ignore skilling up or even using some disables. I solo midded against a guy that did nothing but try to harass me with sunstrike. Even when it hit, he did like no damage. Endgame is pretty much the same in which they'll just toss meatball and sunstrike...No forge spirits, no coldsnap, no nado....just meatball/sunstrike maybe a deafening blast here just to show that they can invoke more than 2 spells. If you're going to play invoker badly, at least go quas wex so that you're actually useful to your team.
Wait, muting carries on from game to game?
tsunami643
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Just got back from a week long vacation. How good has balanced shuffle in private lobbies been? Any Gaf IH games played since? Egos been bruised?
Refreshment.01
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Rookie question:
Is there only 1 map for this game?
Edit: Is there a good video explaining the controls specifically?
Is there only 1 map for this game?
Edit: Is there a good video explaining the controls specifically?
So much more factors into it than "LOL they haev pl op champ!!!"
MurkyZebra2417
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Gully State
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Refreshment.01
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Thanks for the answer Gully. By controls i mean, double clicking left mouse those this, "S" makes character stop. So and so...
not that great, usually end up balancing then having to manually move people. Valve mmr is a complete mystery.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yeah, only one map but as others often say, thats like saying football "only" has one field. There will probably be some variant maps added later on, but only one map is taken seriously.
Refreshment.01
Member
Well football features different stadiums. The question was due out becuase the game is quite big in terms of gigabytes.
Gully State
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBzbokoYTvk
Here you go...It's long and kind of all over the place but it'll answer a lot of the questions you have...
Well, you can just check the key bindings to get an idea of what does what. A few of the things that aren't to obvious.
You can use attack move (A) to attack friendly units and try and deny them. You can attack friendly creeps under 50% HP, friendly buildings under 10% HP, and a friendly hero with certain damage over time spells under 10% HP.
Attack move has anther use. You can target any nearby friendly unit to try and make the enemy creeps or tower change targets. If you are getting attacked by a tower, you can use it to make it choose a new target.
The Stop command can also stop channeling spells, like Teleports. If you realize your teleport is just going to kill you, you can stop it.
You can hold down shift to queue up a series of commands. So, you can push it down, tell your guy teleport to a tower, use a dash once the teleport is done, and then use a spell after that, getting things off in very quick succession without having to worry about accidentally canceling something.
There are different skins for the holiday events but its the same map. The game being large is likely due to all of the heroes have minutes of voice overs.
The VA and other music takes up 1.5GB alone. All the models and textures take up a total of 2.3GB. The various UI elements, like spell icons and such, take up 700 MB.
Gully State
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I still remember like 6 months ago when 40k was a good evening. I'm excited to see the numbers when the game officially launches.
Jay Shadow
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I think it might have been even slightly higher a few days ago when I remembered to check.
jaundicejuice
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Pretty cool, Valve just gives you the models in maya if you want to try your hand at making items. Been poking Axe's model this morning...
Pai Pai Master
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Hard to tell, but it will definitely explode once they make the game freely available to all. The slow and steady growth has been pretty noticeable every time they send out new waves of invites.
Ah, and according to that site Skyrim's highest was 287k, so it hasn't broken the record yet. Thought it certainly will.
And old screenshots show Counter Strike 1.6 at 500k alone years ago.
CarbonatedFalcon
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What's insane is how high the current players is to peak, and it's not even a special day or anything. Unlikely anything would top it anytime soon. Would only be major game releases (e.g. Half-Life 3).
poppedcollar69
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They should probably nerf spirit lance though.
SteveWinwood
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The amount of invitations I received exactly lined up with how many people on my friends list didn't have it, I just realized.
shira
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Turn off auto attack in the settings. People will yell at you at lot less.
Gully State
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I've contemplated turning auto attack on as all the pro's seem to leave it on. I do miss some last hits from time to time because I forgot to right click because I was checking other parts of the map. TBH, I wish there was a way to toggle it on/off on the fly...
Refreshment.01
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Thanks for helping out. Checking the video now. I wonder if you could play this game decently just using the mouse.
Gully State
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You can't. This holds true for pretty much any RTS style game..
tsunami643
Member
Just give an attack+move command before you start looking around the map?
Best way to learn is to play with an experienced player. There are a lot of Gaffers willing to help you out and show you the ropes. You can add me as well if you want. SteamID is in profile.
Leave auto attack on. It forces you to either hit stop repeatedly, which focuses your attention or the smarter thing is to constantly move so you can't attack. This helps especially against skillshots like Pudge's.
In no way shape or form is this possible. Not at any other than the lowest of levels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE9ecc0eQC0
This is played in WTF mode in a custom game so your spells have no cooldown and you need no mana to cast, so of course this is exaggerated, but probably the first few second of clicks (0:17-0:19) is something that could potentially happen with Invoker in a real game.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
STOP PICKING ANTIMAGE. ANYONE. EVERYONE. FUCKING STOP IT. YOU CANNOT JUST PICK HIM UP LIKE OTHER HEROES. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL NOT KNOW HOW TO PLAY HIM EFFECTIVLY AND YOU WILL FUCKING SUCK AND YOUR TEAM WILL LOSE. STOP IT!
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Alternatively, stop picking Medusa when the other team has an Anti-Mage. This happened to me 3 times last night and none of those Medusas were even close to outfarming the AM.
Interfectum
Gold Member
Also alternatively, stop picking heroes simply because they are new. I've had my fill of shitty dusas.
If you want medusa and someone in the other team picks it up before you, always spite pick PL. That's what I do.
Yeah, at least I have a good reason to pick dusa! Was my favorite for a long time in dota 1, hate all these new noob posers who think they can pick a hero because it's "new" it's not even new you noobs go back to lol.
Yeah, at least I have a good reason to pick dusa! Was my favorite for a long time in dota 1, hate all these new noob posers who think they can pick a hero because it's "new" it's not even new you noobs go back to lol.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
"Dude, why are you trying to gank at level 4? You're antimage, you farm all game and kill them all"
"Sorry, first time AM"
There are heroes you can learn as you go. ANTIMAGE IS NOT FUCKING ONE OF THEM
"Sorry, first time AM"
There are heroes you can learn as you go. ANTIMAGE IS NOT FUCKING ONE OF THEM
TerryLee81
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Does anyone have a spare key?
I would love to try this out, looks interesting.
I would love to try this out, looks interesting.
I've only played 5 games of Dota2. I was planning on playing a 6th. It will be an AntiMage game in your honor.
I think everyone has a spare key. PM me your steamname (and I'll friend you to give you a key) or email address and I'll send it directly.
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