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DRAGON BALL FighterZ - Trunks Reveal Trailer
- Thread starter Guymelef
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Nah, I'm in the camp that says Vegeta should have been the one to defeat Cell after seeing Trunks get shot and realizing everything was his fault at this point. End the saga with a Gallick Gun vs Kamehameha battle similar to the one in the Saiyan Saga, except this time Vegeta is in the hero role.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Here's another fact: Trunks and Vegeta had the power to legit kill Cell.. thing is those muscles handicapped them. So them going above ssj in the wrong way is what prevented them from bodying Cell. Goku at least was smart enough to see it from a far.
roflwaffles
Member
Best Gohan is obviously Future Gohan.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
I want blue haired trunks.
Saying kid Gohan didn't have a personality is a bit ridiculous imo. Growing up he was always a kind, gentle natured kid who does not enjoy fighting like pretty much every other fighter but instead he does it because he has to in order to save his friends. It's not so much that he was a different person as an adult, it's more that he finally could be who he wanted to be instead of who he was forced to be.
Also, from the very beginning of Z it was shown Gohan had ridiculous power potential though rage and need, that's just a part of his character. I don't feel him being the one to defeat Cell was an unearned thing given all the training and fighting and story buildup he had up to that point.
I actually kinda hope they wait on Adult Gohan for DBFZ until more DBSuper has aired cause maybe he'll have more interesting attacks they could implement by then.
butman
Member
Maybe it's time for a villain.
do the right thing Arcsys
Well, technically, this doesn't disqualify Piccolo.
I do think Piccolo is next though - he's the next most popular character, all of the core DBZ villains sans-Raditz are already announced, the hero side of the roster desperately needs a non-Saiyan, and he has a pretty solid moveset.
Icyflamez96
Member
To be fair, those moments I'm referring to may not be depicted in the manga, but if we're going off what the anime showed us, yeah.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
A sword cut Frieza in half, Frieza cut himself in half with his energy disc, and Destructo Disc could cut people regardless of how strong they were. If anything you'd think more people would be running around with sharp objects.
... there's some weird opinions in here.
Anyway, I thought it pretty cool that the soon-to-appear beta will have 2 more characters than we currently know of.
Minus the fan favorite war, it'd make a lot of sense of the next 2 revealed (and soon playable) were of very different gameplay than the cast of blonde hair'd close range brawlers we have now.
If Piccolo really does play like ASW Dhalsim / Duo Lon, that could make him a shoe-in. Frieza's the closest thing we have to a range-focused character right now, with his wealth of various projectiles. True ranged normals that could even lead to combos of grapples from a distance, would really separate him from the current roster.
Krillin could work as he'd be one of our weaker characters, and could fit the "better as a support" role very nicely, with Solar Flares and Destructo Disk Barrage Lockdown / potential for a fast, unblockable super.
It'd be even better to see someone wacky and unexpected though. With potentially 8 relatable, expected mainstays, going nuts in true ASW fashion on the 9th slot would be wonderful. Put the idea that there could be massive differences in some character designs and concepts on notice. Let their fan base know that players of Kokonoe, Arakune, Carl Clover, Jacko, or Zato 1, will have someone they relate to within this new franchise.
Anyway, I thought it pretty cool that the soon-to-appear beta will have 2 more characters than we currently know of.
Minus the fan favorite war, it'd make a lot of sense of the next 2 revealed (and soon playable) were of very different gameplay than the cast of blonde hair'd close range brawlers we have now.
If Piccolo really does play like ASW Dhalsim / Duo Lon, that could make him a shoe-in. Frieza's the closest thing we have to a range-focused character right now, with his wealth of various projectiles. True ranged normals that could even lead to combos of grapples from a distance, would really separate him from the current roster.
Krillin could work as he'd be one of our weaker characters, and could fit the "better as a support" role very nicely, with Solar Flares and Destructo Disk Barrage Lockdown / potential for a fast, unblockable super.
It'd be even better to see someone wacky and unexpected though. With potentially 8 relatable, expected mainstays, going nuts in true ASW fashion on the 9th slot would be wonderful. Put the idea that there could be massive differences in some character designs and concepts on notice. Let their fan base know that players of Kokonoe, Arakune, Carl Clover, Jacko, or Zato 1, will have someone they relate to within this new franchise.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Nah I don't though and you compared a sword to energy. They're hands have been stronger than metal since Goku got blasted on in the first scene of DB.
Icyflamez96
Member
Only reason I can see people disliking him is because "whiny and daddy issues"
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Yeah that didn't make much sense to me either. I also remember that Goku got hurt when Krillin threw a rock at him and when Gohan bled when his teacher whipped him.
Trunks has 1 cool moment and just exist after that, he's not all that cool, interesting or even fun outside of his early appearance.
It was enough coolness to last a lifetime Ray
If I was still 10 years old maybe.
Show him being goofy like Gohan in high school and I may like him.
I need something more than just cool to care or like some characters.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Regular Trunks I can understand, but Future Trunks? Nah son
maks
Member
Sone of you are touching on a big concern of mine that hit me as soon as Trunks was revealed. I'm not seeing much of a range in character specific fight mechanics. Trunks doesn't seem to have a unique sword mechanic, he is just simply animated with it. I am hoping for diverse differences between characters like we see in bb, gg, persona series.
Although the producer mentioned the six e3 characters are basic ones anyone can pickup and play, trunks looks to be in the same category. It now hits me that Cell and Buu in particular are missed opportunities for really interesting mechanics and they really should have done so with them if they were to go down this route. For example Cell could have called upon his mini cells to fight in this battle like rachel, nu, or jacko specific mechanics. They could hang around on-screen and grab, explode, shoot fireballs, etc.
Piccolo should be interesting as well but if he isnt then i may just have the wrong expectations for this game. Im not a VS type of player so perhaps this kind of diversity doesnt work well in a VS type game. At this point i figure manipulation of the overall system mechanics and character specific supers and assists matter more. Is that how this game may be?
Although the producer mentioned the six e3 characters are basic ones anyone can pickup and play, trunks looks to be in the same category. It now hits me that Cell and Buu in particular are missed opportunities for really interesting mechanics and they really should have done so with them if they were to go down this route. For example Cell could have called upon his mini cells to fight in this battle like rachel, nu, or jacko specific mechanics. They could hang around on-screen and grab, explode, shoot fireballs, etc.
Piccolo should be interesting as well but if he isnt then i may just have the wrong expectations for this game. Im not a VS type of player so perhaps this kind of diversity doesnt work well in a VS type game. At this point i figure manipulation of the overall system mechanics and character specific supers and assists matter more. Is that how this game may be?
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One of the few Saiyans with genuinely interesting attacks, but he trash? Man...
Now here's a fun character.
An arrogant punk kid, that makes flashy creative moves.
TheSkullPrince
Member
Future Trunks and Cell are the best DBZ characters.
SpiceMelange
Member
Yup it's my number 1 concern with the game so far, everyone jumped and breathed down my neck when I shared similar concerns so i'm just in wait and see mode for now. I hope Piccolo is dalshim-y or something.
Undead Fantasy
Member
People really need to watch Super.
Nah I'll just go read One Piece.
I have no interest in DBZ outside of the original series and maybe another movie Toriyama is heavily involved with.
Though I have fun with the games with friends.
It's much harder to balance a game with assists than something like Guilty Gear.
When it comes down to it, every VS game with assists has been about either developing touch of death combos or, if that's not possible, maximizing your advantage with resets and oppressive mix-ups. Damage output is low in this game so high level DBZF is going to look a lot like Skullgirls IMO.
When it comes down to it, every VS game with assists has been about either developing touch of death combos or, if that's not possible, maximizing your advantage with resets and oppressive mix-ups. Damage output is low in this game so high level DBZF is going to look a lot like Skullgirls IMO.
Bruh relax we don't even have Piccolo of all people yet.
Hopefully things will stay this way.
I don't think Yamcha will make it.
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
We don't need that many Gokus...
What about Chiaotzu/Chaos?
what we do need is MORE GOHANS!!
Wow in a way that's kinda sad but also fun for us since I can't remember another anime with a Lat dub like this one lol You're right about Tenshinhan, and now matter the arguments, you're never going to convince me that Funi Frieza is cooler than menacing Lat Freezer
What about Chiaotzu/Chaos?Depends on how much though.
Nor the interest in a sequel out side another movie, especially since I really stopped caring about a good amount of the characters as time has gone on.
All we need is Teen Gohan and Great Saiyaman.We don't need that many Gokus...what we do need is MORE GOHANS!!
Wow in a way that's kinda sad but also fun for us since I can't remember another anime with a Lat dub like this one lol You're right about Tenshinhan, and now matter the arguments, you're never going to convince me that Funi Frieza is cooler than menacing Lat Freezer
It got everything that made the original two series great (past the movie-retelling episodes). If you can get past the characters not being buff anymore, and the lack of the gritty 90s artstyle, there is no reason to not be into Super.
The Dragon Ball series is loved mainly for its characters, and Super does not disappoint in that regard like GT did.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Kid Buu is a core DBZ villain that hasn't been announced yet. And before your rebuttal, Majin Buu is not Kid Buu; Kid Buu is unique enough to warrant his own spot. Also, you mention Raditz as a core villain, but Kid Buu is way more noteworthy.
So yeah, Kid Buu :]
If you're gonna be this dismissive, then stop spewing nonsense.
GuitarGuruu
Member
I seriously can't wait for this game, I want kid Buu next!
Sony
Banned
Baby Vegeta > Goku Black.
Poor Yamacha
Lol where is this from?
If the roster is going to be limited to somewhere in the 20s I honestly think Kid Buu might get cut.
MaximumSpider
Banned
I did and lost interest during the
final Trunos vs Zamasu fight
I believe the name in japanese is read as Chaozu, and while Ten Shin Han's name is a reference to fried rice, his is a reference to dumplings.We don't need that many Gokus...what we do need is MORE GOHANS!!
Wow in a way that's kinda sad but also fun for us since I can't remember another anime with a Lat dub like this one lol You're right about Tenshinhan, and now matter the arguments, you're never going to convince me that Funi Frieza is cooler than menacing Lat Freezer
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