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Dragon Ball Super |OT| 28 Episodes Later

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part of the time its just whiis and beerus eating or talking bout food. its like the new version of powering up for a long ass time (albeit not as bad...since at least some of its kind of funny)
 
part of the time its just whiis and beerus eating or talking bout food. its like the new version of powering up for a long ass time (albeit not as bad...since at least some of its kind of funny)

I preferred the movie, with Vegeta acting like an idiot trying his best to make Beerus happy, rather than standing around whimpering for two episodes.
 
Is this a new trend!? Every episode we get this thick outline strokes, I'm trying to convince myself they don't bother me but they feel so off!
 
Just back from vacation and caught up on the last two eps. Pretty good, although the pacing seems off to me (not by normal DBZ standards - just in comparison to BoG).

So 7 episodes in. What are you thinking of DB Super so far?

Besides my small nagging about TOEIs animation quality at some minor places I think its fun to watch so far.

I'm enjoying it a lot. I still would have preferred them to move directly on to "new" material, but what we've got is hitting most of the right notes for me.
 
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should have just showed or edited the movie for tv instead of remaking an inferior version with bad art

eh, at least this is (somewhat) new content with a few fun variations, Revival of F has a chance to be better than the movie itself, wich was a bit of a dissapointment.
 
I preferred the movie, with Vegeta acting like an idiot trying his best to make Beerus happy, rather than standing around whimpering for two episodes.

Seriously, BoG was superior in pretty much every way. The only things I've liked so far in Super are scenes or versions of scenes that weren't in BoG like when Vegeta takes his family on a vacation.

Plus, Beerus comes across like a much bigger asshole in Super compared to BoG. This time around, he seems much more malicious than he needs to be.
 
Same applies to everyone when they fight Beerus though, durability is a legit trait. That's why I don't think SSJ3 Goku could have beaten him. Goku was spending tons of energy and doing no damage. Meanwhile Buu draws from an infinite pool.



I think it's great. I'm actually impressed by the pacing.
His pool isn't exactly infinite. He ran out of energy while fighting Kid Buu.

But yeah, he definitely possesses properties of energy conservation and gathering unlike other characters.

Kid Buu never got tired against Goku it was amazing.
 
Yeah, I think trying to make sense of the power scale of characters is an exercise in frustration, post Freiza. Everyone is way stronger than the person that came before. Was Cell 10x stronger than Trunks when he beat Frieza and King Cold? *shrug*

The way I like to look at it, they can sense when someone is stronger but overdo their reactions to the power. If you start picking it apart, we should be at characters being 1000x stronger than Vegeta was when he came to earth, and silly stuff like that.

Basically you just gotta take it at face value. Right now Beerus is stronger than Goku and Vegeta, and they're stronger than everyone else. Lol
 
Really hope somehow Gohan gets off his lazy book worm ass and goes to get trained by Whis as well..And then he unlocks some sort of secret God mode above SSJGSSJ and becomes the strongest...I have hope for you Gohan.

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Yeah, I think trying to make sense of the power scale of characters is an exercise in frustration, post Freiza. Everyone is way stronger than the person that came before. Was Cell 10x stronger than Trunks when he beat Frieza and King Cold? *shrug*

The way I like to look at it, they can sense when someone is stronger but overdo their reactions to the power. If you start picking it apart, we should be at characters being 1000x stronger than Vegeta was when he came to earth, and silly stuff like that.

Basically you just gotta take it at face value. Right now Beerus is stronger than Goku and Vegeta, and they're stronger than everyone else. Lol

Pegging a character to a fixed power scale never make sense anyway. I think its easier to rank them into various tiers (here's what I think is the current tier):

Tier S: Beerus, Whis
Tier A: Vegeta, Goku, Buu
Tier B: Gotenk, Piccolo, Gohan
Tier C: 18, Tien
Tier D: Goten, Trunks, Krillin
Tier E: Master Roshi
Tier F: Chiaotzu, Yamcha
 
Pegging a character to a fixed power scale never make sense anyway. I think its easier to rank them into various tiers (here's what I think is the current tier):

Tier S: Beerus, Whis
Tier A: Vegeta, Goku, Buu
Tier B: Gotenk, Piccolo, Gohan
Tier C: 18, Tien
Tier D: Goten, Trunks, Krillin
Tier E: Master Roshi
Tier F: Chiaotzu, Yamcha

Yamcha should have a Rank all by himself.
 
He's gonna have to take one for the team. Ya'know, build some character.

He needs to fight because it's necessary, not because he wants to.

Come Gohan, think about your family and friends smh

you know they already made this into an entire arc right... cell games...

he really doesn't need to considering goku/vegeta's motivation and drive... :/
 
Really hope somehow Gohan gets off his lazy book worm ass and goes to get trained by Whis as well..And then he unlocks some sort of secret God mode above SSJGSSJ and becomes the strongest...I have hope for you Gohan.

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Then three episodes later Goku learns Ancient SSJSS-Grand God
 
Yamcha should have a Rank all by himself.

Tier S: Beerus, Whis
Tier A: Vegeta, Goku, Buu
Tier B: Gotenk, Piccolo, Gohan
Tier C: 18, Tien
Tier D: Goten, Trunks, Krillin
Tier E: Master Roshi
Tier F: Chiaotzu
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Tier Y (pun intended): Yamcha

FTFY
 
He needs to build more character. You can never have enough character. He is a character after all.

Yeah and right now his character is written as gohan in love, given up training, just got married, and is about to have a kid. just because he's not fighting doesn't mean he's lacking character or not building character...
 
Gohan got his moment in the sun. He was literally the strongest character and hero of an arc. Even Gohan going from whiny brat to ready for battle in the Vegeta arc was good for him.

I'd rather either Vegeta or Piccolo get their time to shine for once. Either that, or the next generation (Goten and Trunks) steps up. Presumably, shouldn't they become WAY stronger than Goku or Vegeta? These kids are turning Super Saiyan as toddlers. They should become monsters when they're older.
 
This actually bothers me more than the shitty animation from the Goku vs Beerus confrontation.

It could have loads of improvements! I can live with a bad animation, but some nice battle animation here and there wouldn't hurt!! lets hope for a outline stroke patch at some point!! Good to know I'm not the only one getting piss on those frames!!
 
Pegging a character to a fixed power scale never make sense anyway. I think its easier to rank them into various tiers (here's what I think is the current tier):

Tier S: Beerus, Whis
Tier A: Vegeta, Goku, Buu
Tier B: Gotenk, Piccolo, Gohan
Tier C: 18, Tien
Tier D: Goten, Trunks, Krillin
Tier E: Master Roshi
Tier F: Chiaotzu, Yamcha

Tier S: Beerus, Whis
Tier A: Vegeta, Goku, Buu
Tier B: Gotenk, Piccolo, Gohan
Tier C: 18, Tien
Tier D: Goten, Trunks, Krillin
Tier E: Master Roshi
Tier F: Chiaotzu
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Tier Y (pun intended): Yamcha

FTFY

Are you guys really putting 18 and Tien on the same tier? Also, we know for a fact that Crilin is the strongest human.

Tier S+: Whis
Tier S: Beerus
Tier A: Goku, Buu
Tier B: Vegeta, Gotenks, Gohan
Tier C: 18, Piccolo
Tier D: Goten, Trunks, Crilin, Tien
Tier E: Chiaotzu, Yamcha
Tier F: Master Roshi, Chichi
Tier G: Videl
Tier H: Mr.Satan

If Toriyama really wanted DBS to be on par with the original DB he'd make Roshi Tier C though.
 
Are you guys really putting 18 and Tien on the same tier? Also, we know for a fact that Crilin is the strongest human.

Tier S+: Whis
Tier S: Beerus
Tier A: Goku, Buu
Tier B: Vegeta, Gotenks, Gohan
Tier C: 18, Piccolo
Tier D: Goten, Trunks, Crilin, Tien
Tier E: Chiaotzu, Yamcha
Tier F: Master Roshi, Chichi
Tier G: Videl
Tier H: Mr.Satan

If Toriyama really wanted DBS to be on par with the original DB he'd make Roshi Tier C though.

This post has it right, although with SSJG, Goku should be above Buu.
 
Are you guys really putting 18 and Tien on the same tier? Also, we know for a fact that Crilin is the strongest human.

Did you even watch RoF and the last Super episode? Tenshinhan did better against Freeza soldiers than Kuririn, who needed to be rescued at one point, and now in Super, Tenshinhan got hit by the same attack as Piccolo and #18 and was just as wounded as 18.

All that old nitpicking of out of context statements is pretty meaningless now that we have actual new material.
 
It's cute when their power levels aren't too big or small like 12,000 or 18,000. It just becomes stupid when the power levels are at the range of 1,500,000,000.

They should rescale power levels and release a databook. Just cut some zeros and make Goku SSJGSSJ only 1.000.000.000 / Beerus 10.000.000.000 / Whiss 25.000.000.000 / Yamcha 0,5 for example. Considering the actual parameter we should be in the trillions, no?
 
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