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18 has got unlimited stamina and she is most probably going to look like that for eternity
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And then he turns SSJ against Freeza. These inconsistencies are really hard to digest...
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Lord Virgin
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Just watched it. What actually makes it worse is that there is a little bit of build up with Gohan and as a viewer and fan I get hope. "fuck yeah, raging Gohan is back". Nope, slammed to the ground.
I liked Beerus' extended speech about pudding.
I liked Beerus' extended speech about pudding.
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Because he forgot how to turn ultimate so he fell back on super saiyan.
Mystic Bitchan.
In the the wife contest, Krillin won handily.
Are talking about the same event when turtle guy suddenly went toe-to-toe with Freeza's henchmen, while implying it was too dangerous for Yamcha? ;\
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Roshi was wearing his weighted turtle shell again in Yo Son Goku. Resurrection F is several years after that and I could buy Roshi doing some training in the interim. Maybe he got bored.
Also someone strong enough to blow up the moon can probably take on some Freeza goons.
I did really like that 18 got to fight, however briefly, and they had her hang with Piccolo and Tien for it. In the Buu saga it's like they completely forgot how absurdly powerful she is (and this was one thing I liked GT for in the Super 17 saga). Hopefully they make her a more prominent Z Fighter going forward, but probably not.
Indeed. I always love it when 18 gets to do things for once instead of being a background character.
RPG_Fanatic
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Isn't because he is the strongest hero that he was taken out is such fashion to show how strong Beerus is?
This doesn't feel like a case of Gohan getting the short end of the stick, but a case of the strongest going down quickly to show how strong the opponent is.
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I could see that. Maybe Beerus sensed that Gohan was the strongest guy there and wanted to make an example of him.
NeonZ
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It's not the first time that "this will give you all your hidden potential!" turns out to be wrong in this series. Goku was supposed to have awakened all his hidden potential against Piccolo Daimao and he's suggested to be able to use the power of Oozaru in base form during that arc, but that's obviously completely forgotten afterwards.
There's also the alternative interpretation that because of his lack of use he can't go Ultimate anymore by RoF, but can still go SSJ.
I don't think that's what they were going for though. "Base" Gohan in RoF seems to be considered much stronger than the others on Earth, including Piccolo (who's shown in the same movie to have kept training), which really only makes sense if that Base is actually including the Ultimate power up, and his SSJ there is something on top of that. Either way, I guess Super will have more exposition about Gohan's situation during that story, clearing any confusion in one direction or another.
They've already tweaked things a bit with his design though - in BoG's, Gohan's design changed when he powered up to "ultimate", while here in Super it was the same design all the time, before and after powering up. In RoF, his design actually looked closer to how he looked like before getting the Ultimate power up (without lines around his eyes), which is why, added to him turning into a SSJ again, people assume that he outright lost the power.
Shouta
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Wait, they said it was too dangerous for Yamcha in RoF? I didn't get a chance to see it but if that's true, then LOL.
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I assumed that you either can't stack SSJ on top of ultimate, or there's just not point in doing so because it won't help. If it did help, I could see Gohan being to cocky to use SSJ against Super Buu, but you would think he would have used it at least against Beerus in BoG.
Then again Gohan is a shitty tactician so maybe it just didn't occur to him to use it.
Yep, Tien shows up at the battle and says he left Chaozu and Yamcha behind for their safety.
Shouta
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Goddamn. They made them real jobbers then. Both weaker than Master Roshi, lol.
They also shafted #18 despite her being much stronger than Kuririn, and left behind Goten/Trunks.
I would have loved to see Kids Trunks/Freeza interaction.
I've always thought it was real sad that Krillin was relegated to being "just a human". Krillin is my bro and I want him to be the very best, the best there ever was. Also, while is current 'do is way better than his previous one, bring back my bald beauty! Thanks.
There was a time he was acknowledged as the "strongest human", right? WELL GET STRONGER.
Hearing him say "I gave up fighting" in the latest ep was just... ):
There was a time he was acknowledged as the "strongest human", right? WELL GET STRONGER.
Hearing him say "I gave up fighting" in the latest ep was just... ):
Host Samurai
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Why is Dende still a kid? Shouldn't he be like grown up at this point?
My headcanon is that Mystic Gohan requires a calm attitude and since SSJ is about being angry as fuck, they can't stack.
But I haven't watched the Buu saga in forever (only recently started the Kai version), so it's possible that's completely wrong.
I thought the same thing! He was a kid when Gohan was a kid. Gohan got taller. I guess Namekians age slowly or whatever.
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That sounds plausible enough.
Except Piccolo is 3 when he fights Goku at the world tournament.
Toriyama forgot
Edit: IDK maybe being God slows your aging.
He has clearly grown up to me looking at his face, he's just your average shorty.
Haha, forgot about that, but at least there a plausible explanation is that he was originally a part of Kami, who at the time was All Growed Up, so faster aging, even after he was egged and reborn or whatever? Plausible! See.
Or yeah Dende could just be the Namekian Krillin.
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Well it seems like Namekians can customize what kind of egg they're making. Piccolo Daimaou made some weaker henchmen first and then later put all of his remaining power into the egg that hatched Piccolo Jr. Maybe Piccolo Jr. was created as a fast-growing Namekian and the rest of them age slower.
It's a shame they never really addressed all this wacky shit when they went to Planet Namek.
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New Namek might be relevant again, going by the Champa storyline. That sounds cool to me.
The Silver
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that angry stuff went away when they mastered it in the time chamber
anyway the "mechanism" for going mystic is the same as going super saiyan, remember Old Kai told him to try turning super saiyan and that's when the "mystic" power came out.
Nice! I'm all for that.
To the first part: my understanding from when I watched it somewhat recently is that they mastered controlling their anger to such a degree that they were still angry, but in full control of that anger, and that's what unlocked The Next Level.
To the second part: Oh, okay. I'll see that part soon enough in my rewatch!
The namekians realize they're outmatched and they must all now fuse with Piccolo.
that would be an interesting way of catching Piccolo up with Goku and Vegeta lmao
That's one cop-out way to power-up. Sounds like Dragonball!
Pankratous
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I hope they find a way...
Piccolo being relegated to Gotenks baby sitter since Buu saga hurts my feelings more than anyone can know.
At least he's more useful than Krillin. ):
They did it in DB Universe. But that's fan fic so whatever.
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Lord Virgin
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Vegeta should just wish planet Vegeta and the saiyans back and fuck off.
not that it really makes much difference, but Piccolo could multiply his power by 1000x and would still be pathetic next to Goku
Saiyans are the superior race, get over it yall
Shamrock7r
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Good. They need a another planet to destroy the shit out of without worry of repercussions like on Earth.
I do really hope they find some way to power up some of the lesser characters, or introduce some new characters to round out the cast. It's gonna get old if it's just Goku and Vegeta doing all the work.
lmao maybe in this alt universe the Saiyans and Earthlings roles are reversed
Yamcha's time to shine
lmao maybe in this alt universe the Saiyans and Earthlings roles are reversed
Yamcha's time to shine
I think he just likes to moan about it but doesn't really give a shit. He was glad to kill Nappa who was one third of the entire race at the time.
Never heard of it I think. I guess it is the obvious way to power Piccolo up.
Freeza Under The Shower
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a reasonable retcon would be that he was involved in whatever event / wish made the Pilaf gang young again.
But that isn't possible, since he was taller during the Buu saga and that was six months ago. So unless Pilaf made just one wish and then told Sheron to bugger off, they just retconned his appearance because audiences wouldn't recognize him otherwise.
Needs some kind of shakeup.
Maybe the story somehow sending them to a different planet? And being split up? Don't know, just something kind of different.
Yeah, only having too relevant characters makes it more boring. I guess that's why people want gohan, piccolo to be strong again. Even fat buu and gotenks seem more for jokes than anything else....which would be fine if the hero pool wasn't so small.
Sounds like another case of Toriyama forgot.
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