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Dragon Ball Super |OT| 28 Episodes Later

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His name is pretty widely discussed here.

All the names we know so far are plays on alcohol.
This is almost an 120 page thread, so forgive me for not catching this but, yeah, Toriyama's naming conventions are still cute so that's neat.

He's Champa. At least going by the manga he seems
weaker or at best as strong as Beerus though, since he's trying to gather the Dragonballs of Namek while Beerus is busy with the battle on Earth, rather than just doing things without worrying
. The Super anime isn't based on the manga, but both have access to Toriyama's outline, so I'd assume that the manga's take on him wouldn't be wrong, even if he's appearing earlier than in the anime.

I guess he only will begin appearing in the anime towards the ending of this arc.
Ah, okay, thanks for the heads up. I have questions searing into my skull now. I'm patient though. I'll wait it out.
 
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bulmas great though. her appearance in jaco is awesome. she should go with them to universe 7. fingahs crossed

I'm hoping we get multiple teams moving around looking for the super balls. For one, it means we don't go 8 episodes for a ball 7 times, and it gives different characters chances to take the led. If you have goku and the kids on one planet, Vegeta Piccolo and Yamcha on another, Bulma Videl and Gohan on a third, you have a lot of awesome and 3 unique worlds/situations to explore at once.
 
I'm hoping we get multiple teams moving around looking for the super balls. For one, it means we don't go 8 episodes for a ball 7 times, and it gives different characters chances to take the led. If you have goku and the kids on one planet, Vegeta Piccolo and Yamcha on another, Bulma Videl and Gohan on a third, you have a lot of awesome and 3 unique worlds/situations to explore at once.

wouldn't it likely be piccolo and the kids as he is their nanny?

plus yamcha? he already said he doesn't fight anymore.

and videl has a young child she can't leave.

so piccolo and the kids (comedy team)
Goku, Krillian Gohan for another team (main team)
and Vegeta, Tien, and bulma for the last team? (the B team with tien mocking vegeta over and over like he usually does and bulma keeping him in check)

I mean you might even be able to replace bulma with majin buu or something.
 
wouldn't it likely be piccolo and the kids as he is their nanny?

plus yamcha? he already said he doesn't fight anymore.

and videl has a young child she can't leave.

so piccolo and the kids (comedy team)
Goku, Krillian Gohan for another team (main team)
and Vegeta, Tien, and bulma for the last team? (the B team with tien mocking vegeta over and over like he usually does and bulma keeping him in check)

I mean you might even be able to replace bulma with majin buu or something.

Well yeah but it'd be fun to mix the groups up so you have unusual groups. Tien and Vegeta would be a cool duo, considering one killed the other at one point, lol.
 
Battle of Gods is her 38th birthday party. Or at least she claims to be 38.

Edit: If she was 16 when the show started she should be ~45 in BoG though.
Wasn't it obvious she was lying? Even the others were skeptical when she said 38 if I remember correctly...

Also, I'm not really sure what their plan is with Bulla. She's around the same age as Pan.
 
Wasn't it obvious she was lying? Even the others were skeptical when she said 38 if I remember correctly...

Also, I'm not really sure what their plan is with Bulla. She's around the same age as Pan.

That whole timeline seems super off now. Pan was originally 4 years old 10 years after the buu ark, now she'll be born 1 year after buu(roughly, we're like 6 months later now?) so she'll be much closer in age to Goten and Trunks, So bulla's likely to follow a year or so later, and might even be a thing during the frieza arc.
 
It's still kinda funny/weird how everyone was asking about it when they're all about the same age, so it's not like it's really a secret.
 
That whole timeline seems super off now. Pan was originally 4 years old 10 years after the buu ark, now she'll be born 1 year after buu(roughly, we're like 6 months later now?) so she'll be much closer in age to Goten and Trunks, So bulla's likely to follow a year or so later, and might even be a thing during the frieza arc.
Battle of Gods takes place four years after Buu so that makes sense.
 
Nah, the entire point is fun. Toriyama would consciously go out of his way to defy and confuse fans, just for the sake of fun. As in, fans would send him letters begging him not to do something, so then he would do it.

Power levels are inaccurate anyway, as has been established since the very arc where power levels came into play in the first place.

The actual metric of power levels, as determined by scouters, are valueless. But the entire franchise from literally the second arc has been ALL about gaining power and surpassing your rivals. Like 500 chapters of that being the engine to the plot.
 
Wasn't it obvious she was lying? Even the others were skeptical when she said 38 if I remember correctly...

Also, I'm not really sure what their plan is with Bulla. She's around the same age as Pan.

Yeah I thought the joke was that Bulma was turning 40 and she was deliberately rounding down, but maybe I'm remembering wrong.
 
Oolong needs to be around more often.

That's one thing Toei did right with the DBZ movies.

Yeah I thought the joke was that Bulma was turning 40 and she was deliberately rounding down, but maybe I'm remembering wrong.

She's probably 45, maybe 44 in the movie. Some quick math based on the show timeline:

start 16
21st tournament 17
22nd tournament 20
23rd tournament 23
raditz 28
vegeta 29
trunks 31 (this is a bit under two years after the vegeta fight)
androids 34
buu 41
yo son goku 43
bog 45
rf 46
 
That's one thing Toei did right with the DBZ movies.



She's probably 45, maybe 44 in the movie. Some quick math based on the show timeline:

start 16
21st tournament 17
22nd tournament 20
23rd tournament 23
raditz 28
vegeta 29
trunks 31 (this is a bit under two years after the vegeta fight)
androids 34
buu 41
yo son goku 43
bog 45
rf 46

So how old does that make Goten/Trunks? It's like a 2 year difference in their ages, right? So Trunks is 11 and Goten is 9? They both look younger now than they did in the Buu saga.
 
So how old does that make Goten/Trunks? It's like a 2 year difference in their ages, right? So Trunks is 11 and Goten is 9? They both look younger now than they did in the Buu saga.
Trunks is a year older. Super (or at least Battle of Gods) takes place four years after Buu.

If I remember correctly, Goten was seven in the Buu saga, which means he's 11 now.
 
Trunks is a year older. Super (or at least Battle of Gods) takes place four years after Buu.

If I remember correctly, Goten was seven in the Buu saga, which means he's 11 now.

First episode of super states it's only been a few months. They might be 8 and 9, by now, but that means they were halfway there during Buu.
 
First episode of super states it's only been a few months. They might be 8 and 9, by now, but that means they were halfway there during Buu.
Pretty sure the first episode said nothing about when it takes place, just that the wish about erasing people's memories happened six months later.
 
Pretty sure the first episode said nothing about when it takes place, just that the wish about erasing people's memories happened six months later.

The first episode just says that some time passed (since the wish, which took place 6 months after Buu).
 
The first episode just says that some time passed (since the wish, which took place 6 months later).
Yeah, that's what I thought. I'm still just expecting it to be the same as the movie, really. Videl being pregnant won't make sense otherwise.
 
That was a pretty tense episode, but I can already see the "wow nothing happened this episode!" complains already
 
This is almost an 120 page thread, so forgive me for not catching this but, yeah, Toriyama's naming conventions are still cute so that's neat.

Not just Toriyama's naming conventions, so many Japanese literature/manga and general entertainment characters are named after food and drink items. I wonder why that is or what the cultural influence behind that is? Even the Mario series, not to go off topic, I mean you have Peach obviously but what a lot of people don't realize Bowser/Koopa himself instead of being inspired by or named after kappa (I can understand why people would think that but it's probably the biggest misconception of the series) was actually named after a food item too. Koopa in Japan is "Kuppa" which isn't taken from "Kappa," Kuppa is actually the Japanese word for gukbap, a popular Korean rice soup. Other names Miyamoto originally considered were Yukke and Binbinba, which like kuppa/gukbap are also Korean dishes (yukehoe & bibimbap). Bowser was also originally going to be an Ox-like creature inspired by the Ox monster in Toei's Alakazam anime until Tezuka suggested to Miyamoto he be more turtle like in form to better fit the rest of the game's enemies, I broke it down here in the "Videogame Facts that Blow Your Mind" thread:

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=95889721
 
Nobody knows.

Some people say it is, others don't. Searching the wikia didn't help.

I think the instant they introduced Blue Hair Super Saiyans is the instant GT went out the window.

Seriously, it took them like 20 years to realize Dragon Ball is like the Star Wars of anime. It's never going out of style.
 
Just finished a re-reading of the DBZ manga, its pretty amazing stuff. Great choreography, great individual moments and tons of charm.

Overall, the Buu saga is the one thats all over the place. Tons of editorial shifts throughout, at the beginning it feels like original DB, then they go full DBZ for a bit and then some Dr Slump type of humor that really doesnt fit the dramatic scale ... At that point the script starts taking a dump. Character inconsistencies, repeating plot threads, contradicting narrative flows and the insistence on selling Hercule over and over when the joke has become more than stale by now.

Thankfully, the way they finish Buu is satisfactory, but that whole volume felt rushed and the sense of "gravitas" (lol) is lacking (eventhough the events definitely are the highest stakes)

Comparing it to Super ... The Cell saga was really the perfect ending, with the Buu saga feeling like a "last hurrah" effort, Super just feels really tacked on in comparison so far, with characterizations that for the most part dont take into account the growth characters went through in the Buu saga
 
This past episode was great. Definitely still think they'll wrap it up BoG by episode 13. Scenes like
Jan-ken Oolong and pilaf extended stuff
seem to be dragging the plot along, but overall they're balancing it with a good amount of plot development in recent episodes. Disappointed to see Gohan
go super saiyan
in the next episode though. All this character power business needs to get sorted out between movie arcs for the sake of the fan base's collective sanity.
 
I was re-watching some of the Buu fights and now I'm wondering
if the Namekian Dragon only brought the good guys back to life how come Pilaf and his crew was brought back. I guess he doesn't view them as bad guys anymore lol

Or more likely it's just a minor plot hole no one cared about.
 
Just finished a re-reading of the DBZ manga, its pretty amazing stuff. Great choreography, great individual moments and tons of charm.

Overall, the Buu saga is the one thats all over the place. Tons of editorial shifts throughout, at the beginning it feels like original DB, then they go full DBZ for a bit and then some Dr Slump type of humor that really doesnt fit the dramatic scale ... At that point the script starts taking a dump. Character inconsistencies, repeating plot threads, contradicting narrative flows and the insistence on selling Hercule over and over when the joke has become more than stale by now.

Thankfully, the way they finish Buu is satisfactory, but that whole volume felt rushed and the sense of "gravitas" (lol) is lacking (eventhough the events definitely are the highest stakes)

Comparing it to Super ... The Cell saga was really the perfect ending, with the Buu saga feeling like a "last hurrah" effort, Super just feels really tacked on in comparison so far, with characterizations that for the most part dont take into account the growth characters went through in the Buu saga

I've been reading it again as well. The pacing is in manga is actually pretty damn great, moves along fast.
 
This past episode was great. Definitely still think they'll wrap it up BoG by episode 13. Scenes like
Jan-ken Oolong and pilaf extended stuff
seem to be dragging the plot along, but overall they're balancing it with a good amount of plot development in recent episodes. Disappointed to see Gohan
go super saiyan
in the next episode though. All this character power business needs to get sorted out between movie arcs for the sake of the fan base's collective sanity.

There's nothing to sort out regarding the character power though.
 
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