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Dragon Quest XI in production
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That has to be the most hilarious thing I've ever read on GAF. I can understand being disappointed, but stealing our games? So silly and I can't take anything like that seriously. Especially when you consider the game wouldn't be made otherwise
Looking at the Japanese market those seem to be the most logical choices.
why would sony do that for japan when they clearly haven't been putting a whole lot of effort into that region? they didn't do it for monster hunter to help the vita, and the ps4 already launched as though it was an afterthought with the majority of attention focused on western markets.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Then he says discussions are going on so who knows.
I don't know what it is but if SE have put all the spin offs and remakes on 3ds and smartphones. Its not DQX either since it seems SE has very little incentive to bring that over and Nintendo seem to have some deal going on.
Maybe SE want DQ to have even more success in the West.
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Deleted member 125677
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10 bucks on this being 3DS, but I would love for the series to go multiplatform
They can't do that too many times too rapidly, else they'd be drawing people away from one MMORPG and onto another. They're more likely to add more expansions to X.
3DS, Release 2015 in Japan, the following year in europe/us.
I mean, I hope you're right, but with the last 5 Dragon Quest games not getting a western release, what makes you think that will happen?
Portugeezer
Member
Get them petitions ready.
IAmRandom31
Banned
I would love for Level 5 / Sony to collaborate to bring this to PS4 ala PS3 Dragon Quest 8 but I think those times are behind us.
Will likely be 3DS / Wii U type release. Nintendo seems to have these types of games in the bag for whatever reason.
Will likely be 3DS / Wii U type release. Nintendo seems to have these types of games in the bag for whatever reason.
Because their platforms do better in Dragon Quests primary market? It's not as if it's a conspiracy or anything. The only reason one could fathom for a none 3DS release and to got for something like PS4 instead is if they want to make another push for the series in the West
Now that makes sense. I'm on team single-player focus, so I'm naturally biased to believe it'll happen.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Honest question, what do you think it would take to get DQ popular in the western markets? And don't say "nothing" or something snarky about western AAA development, it's a serious question. Final Fantasy is popular over here. There was Bamco talking about how Tales is getting more and more popular with each release. What could DQ realistically do to find a steady audience?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
1) Console release.
2) They are never going to get the KH/FF audience so DQ is never going to sell more in the West than in JP.
3) Ni No Kuni did quite well without much marketing. So whats crucial is that its a great game and has good word of mouth.
it just needs some consistency. that's what's helping out tales. but what tales is doing is just hitting about 100k-150k and maybe a little more with each entry. dqviii and dqix both sold over 500k in the us. i think in order to become a multimillion selling franchise in the west, it would need a very expensive overhaul that probably isn't necessary. maybe for dqxii it will make sense to go with ps4, but the return on investment is probably focused on japan where there's more of a guarantee of selling multiple millions with fewer development resources involved.
Magicpaint
Member
A big marketing push? Both DQVIII and DQIX benefited from that - both having shipped over a million copies each in the west. VIII had the FFXII demo in NA and many enhancements to the localised product (full orchestra soundtrack, voice acting, new UI etc) while IX had a strong marketing push from Nintendo.
Didn't the DS remakes and DQ9 sell decently? A decently budgeted home console DQ on PS3/X360 or Xbone/PS4 could do well in a starved market regarding that genre.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
DQ9 did 1.02 million in the West. DQ8 iirc did 1.4 million.
DQ has no chance and doing big numbers like 4 million+ in the West like FF and KH.
DQ has no chance and doing big numbers like 4 million+ in the West like FF and KH.
what tells you the market is starved and not relatively nonexistent?
Marines, guns, realistic looking characters, no cutesy stuff, enemies who are pure evil, console, and pvp. Pretty much what the current target audience does not like.
1st Course
Member
DQ8 and 9 both sold 1m+ in the west. More than Persona/Tales and pretty much any JRPG that not FF/KH.
The difference is that Square has higher expectations than Namco/Atlus. Namco might be happy with 200-300K western sales but such numbers might not be good enough for SE.
I doubt we'll see DQXI on anything other than the 3DS. PS4 won't have the numbers, PS3 is a possibility of course, but I feel like that ship sailed with DQX; a lot of people expected a platform switch from Wii but it didn't pan out like that.
So 3DS is best bet in terms of number of users and support what with DQM, DQ7 and so on.
What are the chances that ArtePiazza are developing this one? Is Level-5 still a possibility for DQ development?
So 3DS is best bet in terms of number of users and support what with DQM, DQ7 and so on.
What are the chances that ArtePiazza are developing this one? Is Level-5 still a possibility for DQ development?
The lack of release for games with a decent budget in that genre on hime console. It's a niche genre alright but I believe with a decent marketting and the right games a console RPG could do a million in the west. Maybe not enough for what you are thinking about.
Magicpaint
Member
DQVIII didn't do 1.4m in the West. It was roughly the same numbers shipped as DQIX.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
It had a shipment of 4.9 million and 3.5 million were sold in JP iirc.
mugurumakensei
Member
Guessing 3DS with a release on mobile 6 months to a year later.
Magicpaint
Member
Yeah but the official shipment figure in Japan is 3.8m. Likewise, shipment figure in Japan for DQIX is 4.4m but WW shipment is 5.5m.
hard to tell now, but it's possible the ps4 won't have a userbase to match what dqviii sold until about 2016 in japan. so optimistically, the game would probably only sell about 2.5 million if it released in 2016 or 2017 (it would surely move hardware units, but not enough to close the gap). sales for the game would need to more than double what dqviii and dqix did in other regions to make up for the gap, and then sell much more to cover the cost of development, which is a lot higher than making a ds or ps2 game. it's also more of an unknown right now, where 3ds and mobile have proven there's an audience for these games.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Oh didn't know about the 3.8 figure.
vagabondarts
Member
On mobile.
Probably won't bring it to the USA anyway.
Probably won't bring it to the USA anyway.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Neuromancer
Member
What are the odds of getting a game along the lines of DQVIII: Journey of the Cursed King? I don't really want a handheld game or an MMO.
X being an MMO, it probably doesn't mean much for the next main-line. If it goes 3DS, my guess that it will be a similar structure to IX. I'm really hoping that there will be no tedious side-quests this time around though. And for it to retain turn-based combat.
RPGCrazied
Member
Whatever happened to localizing X? I know its an MMO, but I could have sworn they had plans to do something with the west.
Also, please don't be an iOS/mobile game.
Also, please don't be an iOS/mobile game.
ThatStupidLion
Member
My exact thoughts
IAmRandom31
Banned
Only the first KH ever did 4m+ in the west. KH2 didn't and KH3 probably won't either.
Zeyphersan
Banned
sörine;109690072 said:
Huh, what's the reason for the decline? I thought the series as a whole pulled big numbers consistently
Magicpaint
Member
DQVIII was really top of the line PS2 visuals and presentation when it was released, so I assume that's what they're referring to. That's honestly the main thing I can think of that separates it from other DQ games.