You are joking right? You pretty much gave away your answer. They created them self a bad reputation. Horrible games like Resident Evil 5 and 6, "Test Games" on the Wii, DLC on Disk, cut content for extra-money, changing the formula of there games without a reason (DMC), almost killing one of there most sympathetic representative, lying, not listing to there fans and lot of other crap. It's sad that there good games suffer, but Capcom brought that on them self.
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E.X. Troopers (PS3/3DS) still not planned for the west
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I don't mean to continue the tease, but just to be clear, this is not the game I was referring to.
And it makes me laugh that a company would hard-code text into their games in this day and age, even if initially they have no plans for releasing it in other countries. Oh Japanese developers... why are you so you?
CorySchmitz
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kunonabi
Member
Capcom has been complete shit for the last couple years. Everything underperforming or bombing is surprising but deserved. I don't really mind troopers coming over since I'm still not buying Capcom games until they get their shit together but it sucks for those wanted to pick it up. Hopefully Capcom gets their shit together next year. Darkstalkers, AA5, and MH3U are a good start but we'll see what happens after that.
DLC isn't the only reason Capcom has been getting trashed either.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I do speak some Japanese. I lived in Japan for a few years, and can read hiragana and katakana, and limited kanji. My Japanese IS total crap, though.
Yes, totally joking. I have a RE6 avatar by the way. It's just funny, the idea of someone actually loving their games is unthinkable to you guys. And you wonder why EX Troopers doesn't come over lol.
And DMC was changed because the DMC team is working on Dragon's Dogma. So instead of getting no DMC game, they tried something new.
Man, I've been salty about Capcom since Last Ranker, and I'm a MegaMan fan.
It's really fucking stupid because this isn't a no-name developer making a VN that wouldn't get localized anyway. It's CAPCOM. For a dev/publisher as large as they are to do something as mind bogglingly stupid as that in 2012 is beyond all belief. It's not even some game that would have had zero appeal in the west, but it's insulting that they'd essentially sabotage the game for no western release. It's effectively locking the game into one region for no reason.
Also, stop generalizing Capcom fans with such a massive brush. I absolutely loved Asura's Wrath and RE6, and I still think this is one of the most boneheaded and illogical design decisions I've ever heard them do. It goes beyond just "not planning to release a game in the west", it's effectively designing the game so that can never happen.
I've brought this up elsewhere and I actually am seeing some points brought up like presentation benefits given the nature of the Japanese language, and if the game doesn't have THAT much text it actually might not be that big of deal. Hell, thinking about it more it actually probably IS infinitely easier to localize than, say, Earthbound, which is basically hunting through the code to find the actual dialogue, replacing it, and making sure you don't break the entire game in the process.
I think I'll need to hunt down some gameplay videos and see how much it really matters, whether this is a real localization killer or if this IS more like the Phoenix Wright can't be in TvC crap.
cj_iwakura
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CorySchmitz
Junior Member
Thank you
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Well, Capcom doesn't want our money so why should I care for "brand loyalty"?
There's a demo on JPN PSN, so you can try it before importing.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
So Capcom killed Megaman Legends 3 because it didn't expect much sales, then they created a new game based on a IP which more worldwide appeal like Lost Planet, but they made the game several times harder to localize killing any chance to localize it and then it finally bombed on Japan....
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...WTF CAPCOM!!!
Is there any reason for this or it just a way to fuck people in the west?
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...WTF CAPCOM!!!
Is there any reason for this or it just a way to fuck people in the west?
I probably won't import actually, I'm just curious to see how the text LOOKS in the game, and if they really do anything interesting. Demo probably would work better for that though, yes.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Self fulfilling prophecy.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Redo... The art?
Huh?
Like, a font or something?
Huh?
Like, a font or something?
Ask yourself, does designing a game just to spite a country make any sense?
cj_iwakura
Member
Programmers being jerks. All the text in Shikigami no Shiro was stored in image format. Every single line of text had to be extracted, edited with image modification software, and reinserted into the game. This is every bit as fun as it sounds.
The game had 82 lines of dialogue.
Imagine doing that for an RPG or even a standard dialogue-heavy action game.
Coloress_Kafka
Member
There problem solved. What's the next excuse?
djplaeskool
Member
Can't wait for my copy to get here.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
It makes sense as putting exclusive PSN DLC characters in the disc of the Xbox 360 version.
I think it means that the art has the text drawn on it, and it would have to be redrawn to replace the Japanese with English
Shame this has no chance of coming over. Looked really nice, maybe I'll import it for PS3 if it ever drops below $20, despite knowing nothing of Japanese.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
The cutscenes have the actual text as part of the art. it's hardcoded. They can't just replace the text in the code to translate. They'd have to edit the art itself for EVERY LINE OF TEXT. That's insanity.
Considering how time consuming translation is in the first place, this roadblock makes it not even worth it.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Unless there's a proper reason like less costs and time (high unlikely) I'll just go with the next more plausible explanation.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Btw, anyone who does have the game and wants to play, post in the OT. I'm happy to play through any mission with new players. I'm already max level, but at this point, I'm farming mats to max out all my weapons.
Import this game! You can easily play through it without the ability to read or understand Japanese. Some menus(mainly for online) you'll need to figure out through trial and error, but other than that, the game flow is pretty straight forward.
I got my copy last week and have been enjoying it a bit. If anyone plans on getting this or already has their copy add me on PSN..
PSN: BlueNocturne
I got my copy last week and have been enjoying it a bit. If anyone plans on getting this or already has their copy add me on PSN..
PSN: BlueNocturne
What's more likely is they take the opposite approach many of us would probably go for if we developed a game: I think everyone in this thread, if we were put in charge of creating a game especially at a bigger company like Capcom, would want it programmed so text can easily be swapped for localization needs so long as there was ANY chance of international release being a good idea. These guys (and maybe most Japanese developers?) seem to approach it from the other end, if localization is actually a very probable possibility, and if it isn't then they'll just code in whatever way they want, even if it turns out there actually is demand or may look like a good idea later on for whatever reason.
EDIT: Just some rewording and clarification.
"hard coding" the text into the art is the dumbest fucking thing ever. Far too much effort for the artists to do that than it is just getting the coders to write it in code, even taking into account whatever filters, distortions, and finnicky AA issues the art gibbons wanted to address themselves. Any normal game artist who did that would be laughed out of their studios.
I can't imagine what it must've been like to actually address spelling mistakes reported back to them from QA.
I can't imagine what it must've been like to actually address spelling mistakes reported back to them from QA.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Dumb, dumb, dumb. Ugh.
I can understand it after seeing the style of the cutscenes.. it's almost like manga panels that are slightly animated with all kinds of zooming, panning, and distortion effects even with the text.
Twin Drive System
Member
This game is really fun. It's a damn shame they are making excuses not to bring it to the west.
Wait, don't turn this around. You were asking, why people have instantly a bad opinion over Capcom. I simply gave you a lot of reasons, which answer your question, even so, you already had some good answers yourself. The question is more, how you can still like Capcom as a company after all the crap they did this generation. You can like there games, but the company all in all built up a bad reputation.
Here is some idea: Don't develop a new DMC and wait after your team is finished with the new game. Instead of complete changing it and confusing your fans. People would be totally happy, to have the original team back at the series with a fresh mind.
digita1alchemy
Member
So tired of this bullshit and so glad I bought a JP 3DS when I was in Tokyo in October.
distantmantra
Member
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500542
Hehe, the title I gave the OT is still appropriate.
Fun game so far. It's pretty simplistic, but I'm enjoying it.
WTF, they did that too? :lol
kunonabi
Member
Shouldn't be that surprising considering they haven't done much else lately.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Yeah it would take a considerable effort. Seems like the game was destined to be import only from the get-go. It's unfortunate, a western release could have been rad.
Well, looks like I'll be grabbing a Region 2 copy sooner rather than later.
Now that is a resounding endorsement! I'll try and hit you up for a game or two down the road.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I think its simplicity is part of its addiction. I think the SP campaign pales in comparison to the multiplayer, imo.
Now that is a resounding endorsement! I'll try and hit you up for a game or two down the road.
my ID is thetrin.
Feel free to add me. I'm always up to play. Things are bit in flux at the moment as I move for a new job, so my schedule isn't totally reliable, but when I'm on, I promise I'm down to play!
Saint Gregory
Member
Disappointing but we already knew this. I say this every thread but I still can't believe that this is the same company that was CAPGOD as recently as the beginning of this gen.
I guess I'll just import the PS3 version once my backlog clears a little, it will probably be cheaper then anyway.
I guess I'll just import the PS3 version once my backlog clears a little, it will probably be cheaper then anyway.
rockman zx
Member
@Capcom Idiocy.
SpaceDrake
Member
Now extrapolate that out to a game the size of EX-T. Your pistol is waiting on the table.
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