I can't tell if you're joking or not.
I'm serious care to tackle this?
I can't tell if you're joking or not.
Marketing is everything. Second to keep gamers you need to have good games. Wii had one of the best marketing, but because the console was weak Nd most 3rd party didn't know what the do with it. The support was bad and people stepped away from the console.
I don't think that argument makes a lot of sense or why the lack of annual franchises would be a problem.
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I hear youI honestly don't know. What works for Sony might not work for Nintendo.
I only know it's what I would have them do, for selfish reasons.
My biggest pet peeve in all these discussions is bringing up the past as 100% predictor of the future.
"Nintendo will fail if they try to match sony and ms, like the gamecube"
- that was 15 years ago
- Wii U failed
If we go by that logic Sony would never ever use cheap off the shelf parts. MS would never compete in the console market because prior to the xbox they never had a console, sega would still be making consoles, The ps4 would be $600 at launch.
Things change, the market is completely different than it was in 2001, shit its completely from 5 years ago. Nobody here or anywhere else knows what will happen if Nintendo launches a powerful system.
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It is also funny to me that people say people are crazy to expect it to be stronger than the xb1 and ps4 because Nintendo doesn't make power house consoles. But the xb1 and ps4 were not power house consoles when they were released 4 years ago. If anything, they had a Nintendo like design approach. So yeah, them being weaker or on part as a 3/3.5 year old console is disappointing.
I have yet to see proof of this. She was chiming in when a bunch of other people reported on Paper Mario U and that's basically what she has going for her afaik. Someone recently posted the things she was ,,right" about before the Wii U came out and most of her information was either false or common sense like ,,Wii U will get a shooter". Mother 3 and gender option in Zelda have yet to be confirmed and both right now seem more and more unlikely.
Big whoop it doesn't release for another 10 months. Nintendo isn't obligated to announce the NX because people have "rumors" of the NX all over the internet. You'll know what it is before it's released.And to think we're going to continue with this until who the f knows when Nintendo decides to unveil the stupid device. I'm running out of patience tbh Almost at the middle of 2016 and still nothing. And the fact that E3 will have nothing NX related makes it even worse!
I honestly don't know. What works for Sony might not work for Nintendo.
I only know it's what I would have them do, for selfish reasons.
It's crazy imo cause Nintendo is not going to skip a generation in power. It's the one thing I've been confident of since day one, and before all rumors. Whether it's a smaller generational leap, or bigger one, I feel I'd in my grave before they outright jumped over a generation in power, mid-gen no less. It just wasn't going to happen.
Them catching up mid-gen (~3 years later) is about the best one could hope for
NX GPU gonna be 900 gflops
Not even a tflop
-Can't wait to see mario, zelda etc with ps3 level graphics
-But the console will cost $400... because nintendo
Anyways I think nintendo will always be cheap when it comes to power and I don't think we'll ever see a nintendo-ip game with top ps3-type graphics (yes ps3)
As always, it will be my smash console and not much more. Will it sell better this time? Perhaps if they actually allow a proper budget for their top games. Also, nintendo has always been the most expensive overall compared to ms and sony.
Of course this is my point of view as a gaming hardcore (know-it-all) consumer.
-Can't wait to see mario, zelda etc with ps3 level graphics
-But the console will cost $400... because nintendo
Anyways I think nintendo will always be cheap when it comes to power and I don't think we'll ever see a nintendo-ip game with top ps3-type graphics (yes ps3).
-Can't wait to see mario, zelda etc with ps3 level graphics
-But the console will cost $400... because nintendo
Anyways I think nintendo will always be cheap when it comes to power and I don't think we'll ever see a nintendo-ip game with top ps3-type graphics (yes ps3)
As always, it will be my smash console and not much more. Will it sell better this time? Perhaps if they actually allow a proper budget for their top games. Also, nintendo has always been the most expensive overall compared to ms and sony.
Of course this is my point of view as a gaming hardcore (know-it-all) consumer.
-Can't wait to see mario, zelda etc with ps3 level graphics
Nah, it will exaflop at the least.The console will definitely be a teraflop in one sense...
I couldn't resist.
Even if Nintendo would have a console 2 x as powerful as ps4 and have all the games we wang. It still wouldn't sell because of their marketing.
Going back, should this be believable?
Are you saying that Xbone produces PS3 level graphics?
Going back, should this be believable?
Even if Nintendo would have a console 2 x as powerful as ps4 and have all the games we wang. It still wouldn't sell because of their marketing.
On select titles, I think that Nintendo actually punches above their weight in hardware.No, he's saying that Nintendo sucks at graphics and everything on Wii U paled in comparison to PS3 graphics by a significant margin, so they need am Xbone-level machine to get PS3-level graphics.
Yeah, this thread is resulting in some... "interesting" posts...
Nope. That wasn't even a rumor. That was just some random crap.
goodI'm a hardcore Nintendo fan and I'm upset in no way whatsoever. Nintendo will keep making quality software no matter the "specs" of what hardware it's running on.
Wow. That's some real solid conclusion jumping shoes you got on there.
Why are people talking about a "handheld" and "console" when Nintendo already told NX will replace both?
Correct if Im wrong but so far from what I understood is one NX not two NX devices...
The GameCubes retail failure was due to many misteps.Gamecube.
and so, the nintendo cycle reaches phase 2
The GameCubes retail failure was due to many misteps.
- Radically different controller that turned of the 'mature' crowd and developers, despite being a fantastic design IMO.
- Toy-like appearance that only cemented Nintendo's kiddie stigma.
-Higher royalty costs for 3rd parties
-1.5 Gb discs and NO DVD PLAYBACK.
-Virtually zero online support or effort.
Why are people talking about a "handheld" and "console" when Nintendo already told NX will replace both?
Correct if Im wrong but so far from what I understood is one NX not two NX devices...
Wait so why are people saying NX will be weaker than X1? I thought the implication was that it would be between X1 and PS4.
Also one constant rumor that we've been hearing over and over again these past few months has been "the NX is super easy to port to." I feel like that's been a consistent thing, as opposed to gimmick and power-level which have often been contested. Does having something other than x86 architecture automatically mean it won't be easy to port to?
And again I'm wondering what the point of this thing is going to be. Nintendo should have just rebranded Wii U if they're going to do underwhelming, third party-alienating hardware again.
Higher royalty costs is well known lol. 3rd party support left because of the reasons listed, the power of the system is the only thing that kept the few left on board.I'm not sure much of your list is even at the top of the reasons why GameCube underperformed. What's your source for the higher royalty costs? You don't even list their lackluster launch and the loss of all their successful western first party IPs which heavily bolstered the N64's success in the west.