Well, we don't know, you don't know. This thread is already being held up as proof that the SSD's on these machines are stupid and over engineered. That the max their GPU's can render is 768MB/s. Already this thread is filling with fanboys, coming in with "I told you so" and "I knew it" Damn man, is this what this forums has be come?
These threads are fine when it's positive confirmation but suddenly they're not when it's negative confirmation, and ironically from the horses mouth and the EXACT SAME SOURCE.
Well, what did you expect after months of "WOAH PS5 SSD SUPERIORITY" that always sounded fishy to anyone with just a tiny bit of knowledge about hardware architecture and render pipelines.
Nah man, sorry but you miss the point. You already claimed that the GPU's are already bottle necking at 768MB, i quoted you right there. You're implying that the figure they showed 768MB was the max their GPU's could render thus making their SSD's and I/O's completely useless.
I understand what you wrote, you just don't like the answer, and that's not my problem.
Oh, and here come the genetic fallacies.
But no skin off my teeth in the end. Just frustrating to read sometimes.Did you watch the video? or did you just read the OP? The guy in the video said "there is enough overhead to run this demo at 60fps" Please watch the video.
If they could they would. If higher res, frames, or both could be done, Epic would have shown it.
He said GPU time is well within budget for a 60hz game, and goes on to speak of the CPU because the budget is only at 4.5ms. That doesn't relate to the overall rasterization cost of this particular demo, and that is immense.
SMH this thread is about the claims in the video... just, never mind.
Not only that, they also say that during the scene where she flies through the city, they were streaming in 500K objects and they can easily stream 1 Million.
The claims in this thread are made based on the video in this thread, not the Eurogamer thing. So, you're just focusing the thing that makes your point. So what's the point of me talking to you. You won't watch the video. "but the Eurogamer interview"
768MB/s is already like 20x the throughput of what we see now in games. People are having a tough time grasping that this is an immense amount of data, and at the same time given the specifications of these SSD's they're largely underutilized.
You're just guessing. You have no idea. You're making claims with no proof. You're twisting numbers to suite a narrative. I'm out. Most of the people in there have already made up their minds, some without even having watched the video. Peace
You're just guessing. You have no idea. You're making claims with no proof. You're twisting numbers to suite a narrative. I'm out. Most of the people in there have already made up their minds, some without even having watched the video. Peace
Exactly, you have no proof. A gif is all you can provide.
The proof is the images, the proof is in what they said, the proof is in the GPU bottlenecking. You're in denial and lashing out.
What claims? Who is making claims?
The only thing you can really take from this, is that this demo can most likely be done on the XBSX.
Yes, this is all a setup, I'm cherry picking everything and trying to frame you guys. You caught me.
So u mean, u are smarter than cerny and sony engineering team?? Why don't u become a system architect for ps6?
Voxel GI is demanding, part of the reason we didn't see it used on consoles this gen. Sadly I expect most developers to just bake lighting like they've been doing even when using UE5.
Because that figure is the peak limitation of what is seen at any given point in time. You're not swapping out that entire pool or even remotely close to that, it defeats the purpose. What were you guys expecting? This is a multiplatform engine, it's configured to encompass everything.
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Sony created the last console which had a big memory related bottleneck and Microsoft didn't, who was more likely to greatly overengineer?
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That's the biggest mistake so many people seem to make, this god like status surrounding these companies like they're infallible, it's ridiculous.
So I watch the video. And the 768Mb is the pool of memory reserve by the Unreal engine. This is going to be updated much more than 1 time per seconds probably as they are going to stream much more the data. So you clearly need much more bandwidth than 768MB/s.
The entire point of the SSD is volume capability not possible with the limited capacity of dedicated RAM, you're going to swap out data as infrequently as possible. That's the entire point, scene volume, complexity and consistency.
