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EpiPens are Becoming Too Expensive For Families To Afford
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Can we blame Obama and Obamacare for this? You know someone out there will.
It's a tragedy when even preventative medicine is in the hundreds of dollars. Without insurance, my long-lasting inhaler medicine for my asthma would be about $300. When I had a viral infection in my eye, my insurance did not cover the meds. I had to pay roughly $300 for that so I didn't lose my eyesight.
Without a coupon, some skin medicine I was prescribed would have been $500. Without insurance authorization + the coupon, it was still $200. Finally with insurance I had to pay $63.
The pharma industry in this country is broken and I doubt it'll ever be fixed, because fuck the poor getting life saving meds, right?
It's a tragedy when even preventative medicine is in the hundreds of dollars. Without insurance, my long-lasting inhaler medicine for my asthma would be about $300. When I had a viral infection in my eye, my insurance did not cover the meds. I had to pay roughly $300 for that so I didn't lose my eyesight.
Without a coupon, some skin medicine I was prescribed would have been $500. Without insurance authorization + the coupon, it was still $200. Finally with insurance I had to pay $63.
The pharma industry in this country is broken and I doubt it'll ever be fixed, because fuck the poor getting life saving meds, right?
Epinephrine is a small molecule and generic forms have been available for years. We just need an affordable, FDA-approved autoinjector to effectively compete with brand name EpiPen.
Biosimilar drugs refer to large molecule products, like a complex protein, that cannot reliably be 100% recreated due to the complexity of the amino-acid sequence, but displays equivalent efficacy. Think erythropoietic agents like filgrastim.
Edit: ok I see this was covered already
Manchin was always a bit of a prick.
in a real free market patents wouldn't be a thing.
Mylan Execs Gave Themselves Raises As They Hiked EpiPen Prices:
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/con...elves-raises-they-hiked-epipen-prices-n636591
Nothing about this should be legal and yet it is. Sad.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/con...elves-raises-they-hiked-epipen-prices-n636591
Nothing about this should be legal and yet it is. Sad.
I mean, not really (maybe 3 works)? Auvi-Q would never have made it to market if the issue was collusion between Mylan and Sanofi. Instead, Auvi-Q got recalled because it sucked and could have resulted in patients dying as a result of anaphylaxis. So that's that.
I think there's been a lot of work by the FDA to speed up generic approvals. The issue is with the stupid pen. I mean there's a reason Teva and other generic manufacturers aren't rushing into the space. We have a similar problem with Advair honestly.
Negotiation of drug prices has nothing to do with why there is no competitive epinephrine autoinjector.
D'ultimate
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Maybe not but it's BS that the government is one of the only ones in the world who are strictly prohibited from negotiating prices with drug companies. Why was this even made a law?
And the shit show that the government is going to put on by having someone from the company testify as to why the price has increased won't change the fact that lawmakers can't do shit to punish them.
What incentive is there to NOT raise the price? Corporate profits? Lol /rolleyes
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
It's been said already in this thread, but damn, we need price controls for drugs. This can't be allowed to happen, it's disgusting. People need this shit, it's not something you try and profit from.
And you just know that the profit from this isn't going to research.
What do you expect from an industry that regards patients as "Customers".
Ayato Kanzaki
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Adrenaclick is a generic autoinjector that can be found from a more reasonable price of 150$ for a package of two.
However, the fact that an alternative exist doesn't change anything about Mylan's directors being scumbags.
And it's not just Epipens.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/23/how-...ther-products-besides-life-saving-epipen.html
If hell exist, there's a special spot already reserved for Bresch and her ilk.
kame-sennin
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You don't understand, it's the best system we have.
Jag
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Don't fuck with IBS drugs either. It's a horrible condition to have.
adamsappel
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Mylan is a company in my hometown. They used to be admirable, being the "little guy" making generic drugs. I have some high school friends who work there (though I haven't seen anyone on Facebook discussing it). This is shameful.
Does the medicine really "expire"? I often think that's corporate bullshit.
It's rare that you can so easily take the measure of a man with just a few words. Thank you.
Does the medicine really "expire"? I often think that's corporate bullshit.
It's rare that you can so easily take the measure of a man with just a few words. Thank you.
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The Autumn Wind
I'd imagine you'd have to be to get elected as a Democrat in West Virginia.
If the company failed to maximize investor profits there would be a class action lawsuit...from the shareholders (ie pension funds and the like).
This isn't a drug. It's the injector that commands the high price because people don't want to use syringes. The drug is relatively cheap.
Yes. Medicine will lose its effectiveness over time.
These people are just human garbage.
hydrophilic attack
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For the record, I was being sarcastic. The part about the Aston Martin is a Shkreli quote
TheGreyHulk
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it's times like this that i wish we had a secret alien overlord who just one day shows up, fed up with our shitty ways and just flat out takes over to fix our stubborn ways. Ugh... this is so disgusting.
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The Autumn Wind
Wow, there really is a defense force for everything. Your explanations are full of shit, btw.
People don't want to use syringes cause without a lot of training, they could die. It's not laziness or anything.
The_Inquisitor
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You guys realize ambulances carry expired drugs right? Drugs can be okay even years after the date. You just need to google to see what they are.
The government aided this monopoly and Mylan donated 250k to the Clinton Foundation. Plus the CEO is the daughter of a senator. This isn't going anywhere unfortunately. Too many ties back to the gov for self incrimination.
Dont need a worthless song and dance from the gov on this issue. Go after the FDA and find out why there are more competitors for the epi pen than in the USA. Europe has stronger regulations too.
Dont need a worthless song and dance from the gov on this issue. Go after the FDA and find out why there are more competitors for the epi pen than in the USA. Europe has stronger regulations too.
It's true that many medications are still fine for general use after their expiration.
However, epinephrine is greatly reduced in potency after 6-12 months; that's a major concern when someone's in anaphylactic shock and unable to breathe. The dosage needs to be close to correct in an emergency situation.
IISANDERII
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The only way the system could work as intended in this situation is if a kid dies because the family couldn't afford it and then they sue for wrongful death. And win, setting a precedent.
entremet
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He's just stating truth, not making value judgments.
The company that makes EpiPen is a for profit corporation. That's no lie.
Yes, you can disagree with their methods, but it doesn't change the realities.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...atients-epipen-costs-after-political-pressure
They are lowering the costs a bit due to the heat
They are lowering the costs a bit due to the heat
in my country medicaments that are essential to life, the state is obliged to give.
The most usual ones are given for free in a public pharmacy, like for example insulin, the unusual ones you have to enter with a law suit (I think that's outrageous), but is certain that you will win.
Health is a constitutional right, that's why it's like that.
I think the only way to revert this in US, its to do the same thing by a law or by the supreme court.
The most usual ones are given for free in a public pharmacy, like for example insulin, the unusual ones you have to enter with a law suit (I think that's outrageous), but is certain that you will win.
Health is a constitutional right, that's why it's like that.
I think the only way to revert this in US, its to do the same thing by a law or by the supreme court.
It's sad as shit that it takes outrage for the "right thing" to happen in one on America's cancerous pits.
Hit me up when we have a repeat of this issue in six months. Hell, maybe we should have an OT committed to problems like this.
BlueTsunami
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If enough people die the market will abide!
Zippedpinhead
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Only took them losing 11% off their stock price and $2 billion in market cap.
The market does react to press. PR should be effective and in this case it appears to have helped. Honestly with this kind of incentive I'm not surprised other companies aren't pursuing an alternative to the Epipen, it's pharma so FDA approval does take a bit of time, but when you have such a wide price target to hit I'm really surprised other companies aren't trying to get into it.
n00bsauce87
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PHARMA CEO GAVE HERSELF AN $18 MILLION RAISE AFTER HIKING EPIPEN PRICES
Gotta pay for that raise somehow. But if this is how like republicans are. Raising the prices on the poor to support taxcuts and raises for the wealthy and businesses will mean economic prosperity for all.
there's a conservative saying over here:
"first you have to make the cake grow to divide it"
they never divide it
LoL
You can even argue they don't even let it grow.
Broken Hope
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America the land of the free... I think I'll stay in the UK and get health care for 'free' and only pay a max of like £8 for a one off prescription..
diablos991
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That coupon is bullshit.
We really need a single payer system.
We really need a single payer system.
We're free to complain!
The CEO sounds like a fraud herself:
Taken from reddit:
Additional reading.
From what I've just read she's demonstrated none of these.
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