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Episode VIII is "The Last Jedi"

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You mean solitude? An elementary-school-age kid? Are you kidding me? After watching her parents abandon her? wat
Yes that's what I meant. You're assuming her parents abandoned her. Like I said before..... Where in the film do we get hints or foreshadowing, other than the obvious fact that she lived alone and she expects her family to return (which isn't really evidence at all), that Rey will fall to the dark side? You've posted zero examples to support that narrative. She's set up from the moment the film opens as the hero who does the right thing.. Whether it's not giving away BB-8 or trying to convince Finn to stop running. That doesn't mean she won't be tempted but there's much more evidence in TFA, based on her CHARACTER ACTIONS, to suggest that she's the hero in the story.

If she falls they're going to have to actively work against the development they've set up thus far.

Same with Kylo's redemption.
 
Yes that's what I meant. You're assuming her parents abandoned her. Like I said before..... Where in the film do we get hints or foreshadowing, other than the obvious fact that she lived alone and she expects her family to return (which isn't really evidence at all), that Rey will fall to the dark side? You've posted zero examples to support that narrative. She's set up from the moment the film opens as the hero who does the right thing.. Whether it's not giving away BB-8 or trying to convince Finn to stop running. That doesn't mean she won't be tempted but there's much more evidence in TFA, based on her CHARACTER ACTIONS, to suggest that she's the hero in the story.

If she falls they're going to have to actively work against the development they've set up thus far.

Same with Kylo's redemption.

Let's just let our kids be raised by wolves. They'll turn out fine, as evidenced by TFA.
 
Just being a force user is enough for them to have to deal with the temptation of the dark side at some point in their lives, and it's been shown with both Luke as a young man and Anakin as a child that the Jedi think they need to be trained from a very young age to stand a better chance of avoiding temptation. Rey's a young woman who either has no training or who is trained but has no memory of it, either way that's a danger. So you have a gifted, powerful force user who's growing stronger by the minute with absolutely no knowledge of how to deal with that, who's been surving on her own after her parents or whoever abandoned her, so we have a healthy source of insecurity and uncertainty for the dark side to get its hooks in, all set up in the first film. I'm not saying this is how it's going to go because honestly, who knows? Just my thoughts.

Then there's the two things which really stood out to me during Rey and Kylo's fight. First, there's the moment where their lightsabers are locked. It could just be a neat visual effect but I'm going to give the people behind the camera the benefit of the doubt. Both characters are face to face and their lightsabers are illuminating them in the dark. We see both characters' faces flickering between red and blue, neither one sticking to one colour.

Second, the moment Rey beats Kylo. Our hero is pacing, almost snarling, while our villain is injured, afraid and in total shock on the floor. Take away the obvious white = good, black = bad costumes and take that image on its own and you'd probably think the bad guy had just won.

Edit; Bobby, I stand corrected, that would be excellent to see. I just don't think that's what they're going for with his character. He tried going maximum asshole and it didn't really pay off. I absolutely would pay to see that story though. You speak wisdom.
The Luke and Anakin comparison is much different. Child Anakin was established very early on (before he even faced any real threat or test of character) that he had a dark future. That he would be dangerous (yeah I know he's redeemed but the point is that he actually fell to the dark side).

Rey and Luke are much more clearly established as heroes early on. Yes, Yoda eventually worries about Luke's fall, but only because his character is being tested, which comes after having established that he's the hero in the story (through his many specific actions and characteristics).

Let's just let our kids be raised by wolves. They'll turn out fine, as evidenced by TFA.
Looks like we've reached your limit in this conversation. Wish I'd have known that before my last post.
 
Just for the laughs, here's a fake-leak that appeared in the OT a few days back
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Is that meant to be laughably fake? Star Wars doesn't even involve more than one galaxy as far as we know. It would more likely be "A Thousand Systems Divide."
The old EU did involve outside galaxies from time to time (apparently six), most famously with the Yuuzhan Vong.

As far as the current canon goes, technically there is a second galaxy, the Rishi Maze, though it's a dwarf satellite galaxy of the main galaxy, about 1000 times closer than out closest satellite galaxy is to the Milky Way, so it's basically lumped in. I don't believe there's anything else.

Either way nothing remotely within 1000, which doesn't even make sense lol. Really, anything beyond the main galaxy and its satellite would be silly.
 
This movie will be about the end of the Jedi. Then the next will be about the first/rise of what ever Rey creates.

I wonder if the "Whills" will come into play at all.
 
Considering TLJ is a main SW movie, having Rey at least be tempted by the Dark Side is a journey the main protagonist goes through. Many see such as part of becoming Jedi.

There is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with wanting to see Rey go through the same trials.


Every SW thread ended up a cesspit after a few pages

Then every SW thread became "TFA was actually bad"

Then I stopped clicking on sw threads

But i have a good feeling about htis one!

I mean, I enjoyed reading & posting in the TFA OTs. Good, hilarious times. I don't doubt TLJ's OT will be just as fun.
 
I mean, I enjoyed reading & posting in the TFA OTs. Good, hilarious times. I don't doubt TLJ's OT will be just as fun.

I hadn't visited SW threads in a while because I hadn't seen R1 yet. I was surprised to read that when I got back, R1 was shit...but at least better than TFA which was worse than the PT....

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I hadn't visited SW threads in a while because I hadn't seen R1 yet. I was surprised to read that when I got back, R1 was shit...but at least better than TFA which was worse than the PT....

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hmm...seems you might be fishing for a SW Ranking List War, but there'll be plenty of those in the official OT. Everybody loves List Wars.

I personally thought Rogue 1 was entertaining enough, but not enough to crack my Top 3 SW movies.


Daisy ambushed by actor about Ep VIII https://www.instagram.com/p/BPrs3UFlHXv/

Are there re-shoots happening right now? Filming ended a while ago.

Also, my daughter is going to love the video.
 
hmm...seems you might be fishing for a SW Ranking List War, but there'll be plenty of those in the official OT. Everybody loves List Wars.

I personally thought Rogue 1 was entertaining enough, but not enough to crack my Top 3 SW movies.

Haha, no I ain't fishin' Daddie!

And I agree with you. I loved R1 but it didn't crack my Top 3.
 
I know some might think this is a dumb idea but you know what I would love to see? Since Lucasfilm made the decision to destroy the Hosnian system rather than destroying Coruscant... I would love if in EP8, the First Order decides to take back Coruscant as it was the birth place of the Empire and with the New Republic in shambles, it doesn't take much effort.

Then in the finale of EP9, during the battle to retake Coruscant. Rey (and Luke, assuming he isn't dead by this point) would go to the Jedi temple where Snoke and Kylo are and where they would battle.

I think that would be cool. I know they probably won't have Coruscant in the sequel trilogy but I can only hope.
 
I know some might think this is a dumb idea but you know what I would love to see? Since Lucasfilm made the decision to destroy the Hosnian system rather than destroying Coruscant... I would love if in EP8, the First Order decides to take back Coruscant as it was the birth place of the Empire and with the New Republic in shambles, it doesn't take much effort.

Then in the finale of EP9, during the battle to retake Coruscant. Rey (and Luke, assuming he isn't dead by this point) would go to the Jedi temple where Snoke and Kylo are and where they would battle.

I think that would be cool. I know they probably won't have Coruscant in the sequel trilogy but I can only hope.
Nah that sounds dope to be honest, and I say this as someone who really wants some new iconic locations in the Star Wars universe.
 
Empire did an interview with Rian Johnson about TLJ.

On what state The Last Jedi is currently in, Johnson said,
"Great! We’re in the thick of editing, really digging into it. It’s taking shape and I’m very excited."

Johnson also spoke about what the biggest surprise about working on Star Wars has been, saying,
"I guess the biggest surprise was the intimacy of the process. It’s huge, sure, and it’s filled with pressures great and small. But at the end of the day, it boils down to the same things as the smaller films we’ve made: telling a story we care about with a camera and some actors. And a Wookiee."

More here: http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/rian-johnson-last-jedi-interview/
 
Empire did an interview with Rian Johnson about TLJ.

On what state The Last Jedi is currently in, Johnson said,


Johnson also spoke about what the biggest surprise about working on Star Wars has been, saying,


More here: http://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/rian-johnson-last-jedi-interview/

"John Williams has already started recording the score"

WHAT? I didn't know that. That seems like an incredibly good sign..

"To Catch A Thief was a great film to rewatch, for the romantic scale and grandeur"

Hmm......

"I found myself constantly wanting to push modern idioms into the dialogue, and sometimes that can work, but you have to be very careful. If you go too far you can break that Star Wars spell. The other challenge is the tech talk, which has to be simultaneously complex enough to sound real and conceptually simple enough to follow. The original films were brilliant at that."

Sounds like he's on the right track.
 
First trailer for episode 8 is going to be special, I havent heard of any leaks at all, no idea what goes on.
 
Rey was always the last Jedi as Luke was dead all along during episode 7. His appearance at the end was a force ghost. Thats why she had visions of him.
 
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