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EVO Sunday Schedule Revealed
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👏 Is 👏 it 👏 really 👏 EVO 👏 if 👏 it 👏 doesn't 👏 have 👏 ARMS? 👏
ZeroTheShadow
Member
Tekken 7 and SFV are the main event. Smash 4 is the half time show.
Thats my guess too but I hope something like rev2 upgrade or just balance patch
Eh I wouldn't say it's mostly offensive. It's definitely way more aggressive now than it was in 2015, but it's still a very defensive game too. It really depends on who makes top 8, and I have a feeling that a lot of the more exciting players won't make it.
And those defensive characters are interesting, but we're far more likely to see Diddy Kong, Rosalina, Sonic and Bayonetta (well, Salems Bayo) than any of the more interesting defensive characters.
Poltergust
Member
A Mega Man got 2nd last year.
Since Evo Kameme hasn't been doing as well. Pretty sure he's only made top 8 at a major once since then, same with Scatt. I mean it's possible one of them could make it, I just don't think it's very likely. I hope I'm wrong though!
Apparently there's voiced lines of the character select announcer saying "Jubei" locked in the game files, so they might announce him as a playable character.
https://twitter.com/notBaf0/status/784794221223956484?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Mass Effect
Member
Smash 4 on Sunday it's about god damned time.
And the haters in this thread can step.
And the haters in this thread can step.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
YES! and I just realized I still haven't played this game yet. It bugs me. I'm way too behind to even think about playing competitively now.
JB-the-Hunter
Member
I dunno about that. Of the PGR v3 top 10, 6 are considered "exciting" (MKLeo, Nairo, Ally, Larry Lurr, CaptainZack, Abadango) and only 3 are not (ZeRo, Dabuz and Komorikiri). And a lot of the players who've made splashes in top 8s at stacked tournaments this year, people love watching (T, Tsu, Elegant, HIKARU, Locus, Samsora, etc.). It all depends on how the brackets play out.
FallingEdge
Member
there are enough casual fighters in Smash, don't need another at EVO
If anything, the current ruleset makes it really not casual friendly.
It's about exposure, people that will never watch fighting games another day out the whole year will watch Evo Sunday. It's the Wrestlemania of Fighting Games. So people want their game on that day for maximum eyeballs and potential new fans/players.
Why when the views of Sunday destroy those of Saturday? Smash WII U had 2637 entrants last year and was a Saturday game, it peaked at 71k viewers. Here's the peak view numbers:
Tekken 7: Fated Retribution (Saturday)
35,498 viewers on main channel at peak
Smash Bros. Wii U (Saturday)
71,141 viewers on main channel at peak
Pokken Tournament (Saturday)
23,980 viewers on main channel at peak
Killer Instinct (Saturday)
25,596 viewers on main channel at peak
Mortal Kombat XL (Sunday)
104,586 viewers on main channel at peak
Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Sunday)
121,878 viewers on main channel at peak
Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator (Sunday)
136,914 main channel / 148,811 total twitch viewers
Super Smash Bros. Melee (Sunday)
219,125 main channel / 232,900 total twitch viewers
Street Fighter V (Sunday)
182,716 main channel / 213,927 total twitch viewers
cj_iwakura
Member
I'm glad for BB, CF deserves the hype, let it go out with a bang.
katsubento
Member
Not sure if serious.
CaptainZack is like THE super major top 8 bayo, so I'd put him over Salem, but we'll see. It's very possible they both make it, given the steady rise of Bayo. But the game is so volatile that you can expect to see anyone, really. Ffs a Link made top 3 at Civil War.
StriKeVillain
Banned
In for Tekken 7. May watch some of SF5, but honestly the best matches for SF happen the two nights before.
Sad I won't be there this year.
Sad I won't be there this year.
This GIF has perhaps never been more appropriate xD
Yup. Very appropriate. Honestly, can't wait
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Y'all didn't steal enough credit cards to make it in.
molnizzle
Member
Why wouldn't he be?
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Worthintendo
Member
But it is..........
WhateverItTakes
Banned
There's always a smash on Sunday man, we need to let it gooooo. Plus imagine the even worse timeline where it's POKKEN
Mr. Wizard did confirm that the poll winner (UMvC3) was going to start off Sunday while Blazblue and Smash 4 were going to be Sunday games during the reveal stream. Not sure why so many people are caught off guard by this.
That said, the order itself of "Blazblue, Tekken, Smash 4" is a bit of a shocker actually. Mind you that Melee did lead into SF5 last year, so in some regards, you could say that it makes sense for Smash 4 to lead into SF5 too. Honestly though, I would have put Tekken in as the "Lead up" to SF5 instead. Still, can't argue the end results considering the number of entries. Just hope that some didn't get turned away from Melee just because "It wasn't going to be Sunday."
That said, the order itself of "Blazblue, Tekken, Smash 4" is a bit of a shocker actually. Mind you that Melee did lead into SF5 last year, so in some regards, you could say that it makes sense for Smash 4 to lead into SF5 too. Honestly though, I would have put Tekken in as the "Lead up" to SF5 instead. Still, can't argue the end results considering the number of entries. Just hope that some didn't get turned away from Melee just because "It wasn't going to be Sunday."
Joegrine_TT
Member
A captain falcon and Link came 2nd n 3rd respectively in smash 4 biggest tournament yet. 2GGC Civil War
I've been heavily involved in the scene both as a spectator and competitor up until about a month and a half ago - this is a stretch imo. It is and will always be an extremely neutral heavy game because the advantage state just isn't strong enough and almost every character has an amazing recovery. I've been excited watching Smash 4 before, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think it's as good of a spectator game as Melee most of the time. If Zero gets knocked out early then we might be in for a ride but otherwise idk.
JB-the-Hunter
Member
Saying "I've been excited watching Smash 4 before" implies that it's only exciting every so often to you, but that's not been the sentiment lately by the majority of people who watch. It is exciting very often. Smash 4 has had a GREAT year so far, with the game somehow getting way more diverse, character-wise, than in previous years, sets between top players going down to the wire more often and international representation absolutely EXPLODING. ZeRo getting knocked out early will not determine how fun the tourney will be to watch. Some of the best tourneys have been ones where ZeRo makes top 8, whether he wins (Frostbite) or doesn't (Momocon).
On a semi-related note. The first draft of pools are out for each game: https://smash.gg/Evo2017/events
Joegrine_TT
Member
That exactly what happened in Civil War. it was really great to see a Link and Falcon in Semi Finals
Spaced Harrier
Member
Smash in there to suck the life out of the night.
SFV is bad enough as it is.
But to sit through hours of smash, and their awful fans who will leave the area full of empty seats for the SF finals...
Christ I missed the days that garbage wasn't on stream.
KoF, GG, and Tekken 7 are all hype games that should have been the run in to SF V.
SFV is bad enough as it is.
But to sit through hours of smash, and their awful fans who will leave the area full of empty seats for the SF finals...
Christ I missed the days that garbage wasn't on stream.
KoF, GG, and Tekken 7 are all hype games that should have been the run in to SF V.
GalacticAE
Member
Wouldn't it be better for the viewers if smash was in the morning or day before and out of the way before the fighting games start?
katsubento
Member
It released kinda soon before EVO?
nah, that wouldn't make sense. Smash gets the most viewers of any game at EVO, why would they want to move it to a timeslot where no one will be awake?
It's a competitive game for sure, it's gonna have backing support from Nintendo and people love playing it. And that's great!...but it's not a fighting game. It has similar aspects but after playing it for a week it felt more akin to a shooter than a fighting game.
GalacticAE
Member
Shouldn't it be last then? Why mix it in with the fighting games when it ruins the flow of everything?
Spaced Harrier
Member
They don't overlap with fighting game fans.
Put smash 2 games earlier it will still get 90 % it's maximum.
The other games all build logically in to SF and will build and retain (after initial massive cliff edge.)
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Cant wait to stay up until 2 in the morning because they don't know how to manage their time
¯\_(ツ
_/¯ probably because the FGC is afraid to admit that Smash is the most popular game at EVO. Despite the falling participant/viewer rate, it continues to push SF5 as the main attraction. Maybe that will change next year.
Goku vs. Vegeta grand finals @EVO 2019 with 500,000 viewers. Calling it now.
Worthintendo
Member
Is this just due to the 3rd person view out of interest?
Like for me its all about controlling the space between fighters, dodging punches and hitting them when they are open, countering their blocks with grabs and so on. I get its not all right up in the other characters face like other fighting games, but the only thing it lacks compared to other fighters IMO is stuff like button combos, special moves & frame counting.
But if games like the DBZ Budokai or Naruto fighting games, no reason something like ARMS shouldn't be.
Honestly? It's the whole having to aim your punches thing that makes it feel more like a shooter than a fighting game. As I've said, there are aspects of fighting games in ARMS, but those aspects are the mindgames of "will he block, will he throw, will he dodge." I.e mind games. And while that's a big part of fighting games, it's also a big part of a lot of competitive games in general.
If you want to call it a fighting game, that's fine. Go right ahead. Hell, if it ends up at EVO one year that's great too! This is just my personal biased opinion that it's not really much of a fighting game.
its like calling For Honor a fighting game.