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F1 2013 announced (PC/360/PS3)
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SGRU
Member
So it's something similar with the TV rights. Shamelessly expensive rights, so the channel that buys it has to fill the emission with ads.
Was it profitable for Codemasters?
Anyway, F1 is less and less interesting every year, so...
mangochutney
Member
Except when you're making a yearly game like this where all you do is update some models and swap out the old sponsors for some new ones there's no excuse that you can't provide all of the classic content in the standard game.
It sets a precedent too, come F1 2014 you'll probably see the standard edition having all of 2013's classic content with a special edition in 2014 containing new classic content.
Doesn't look like you're throwing a machine around a corner at massive speeds. The weight doesn't seem to be there. I'll wait for the demo though to see what it feels like to play.
SGRU
Member
Fuck.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Not even a classic McLaren for the 80's or 90's - wow.
How did they not get McLaren? Did they cheap out or did those cunts at Simraceway block it with their exclusive license?
How did they not get McLaren? Did they cheap out or did those cunts at Simraceway block it with their exclusive license?
doesn't look that comprehensive though. a few cars and a few drivers and one or two tracks? Just feels like a DLC pack tbh.
and those screenshots of the classic mode are *very* yellow
ethomaz
Banned
lol so much hate for Wii U
Well it's start. I always wanted stuff like this. Seeing how Forza 5 has open-wheelers though I might just get my fix there.
The world on 1980 was yellow/sepia, wasn't it?
Bright colors only appeared on the real world in the late 90's if I remember.
Those Criterion wizards, how did they do a very different game ...
Diablohead
Member
So really the classic edition is just 7 driver helmet textures and 5 more cars *edit* and 2 tracks.
Visually looks clean and nice, no yellow hue which is good.
My main concern is what have they done to driver aids and tires again, they ruined 2012 for me with no accelerated wear in short races.
Visually looks clean and nice, no yellow hue which is good.
My main concern is what have they done to driver aids and tires again, they ruined 2012 for me with no accelerated wear in short races.
Big Takeover
Member
I was hoping for more out the the classic content, but oh well. It's a nice addition for people already sold on the vanilla game.
Jersey, Sochi, and new cars await for 2014. I'll think I might too.
Jersey, Sochi, and new cars await for 2014. I'll think I might too.
And 2 circuits (Imola and Estoril) which seems to be the biggest selling point for the Classic Edition, especially if you can drive those tracks with 2013 cars.
Estoril is not terrible (except for the stupid corkscrew) but Imola is god like for driving games. That track just flows and it's a joy to drive when you master it.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
OldAsUrSock
Banned
This game should be on current gen systems. It is a shame that this won't be on Wii U and PS4. The less last gen games the better.
olimpia84
Member
Thanks for the details. I looked for them in that Hands On article but didn't see anything. Sounds good, although no Ayrton Senna is a bummer.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
So what are the classic cars, is there a list?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I hope he's being less of a ball bag this year about the game on twitter.
Can't possibly be any worse than the bile they released last year, shower of wankers.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I really hate this crap. Say you don't want to spend the money because of install base, etc. Don't sit there and lie your ass off about the system not being capable when it's on the damn PS3 and 360.
well he said that for Vita.
so I'm not sure why he said " need to be a very different game" bullshit for his Wii U excuse.
now I'd like to read what he can say about the lack of 3DS, PS4, Xbox One and Android/iOS versions.
If you're using a wheel don't bother.
thesuperfunk
Member
Will purchase the 'Classic Edition' purely for the 90's content pack and classic Imola ... finally Codemasters have taken a step in the right direction - we just need some McLaren's in there now!
Shame about the lack of next-gen releases :\
Shame about the lack of next-gen releases :\
massivekettle
Member
Not really tempted to buy this (bought all Codies' F1) unless they improve the handling, the AI and the penalty system.
Diablohead
Member
Good, good!
Yea, only because people didn't bite his different game excuse and called him out on it.
Are you thick? Who do you think would put the game onto those platforms? Magic programmers from the sky? No they would have to hire a shit ton of people to get it onto those systems.
Why take resources away from PS360/PC when they already struggle to manage that every year?
Lemonte
Member
Youtuber Intothebarrier said they are not going to release demo...
Chiaroscuro
Member
Give me a new Grand Prix Legends and I will be happy. Codemasters is sitting on a gold license and still releases only dumb out current season F1 games.
Sleeplessnights
Banned
An F1 nut wouldn't come close to 2012. That game was broken.
Their F1 games always came out around that time. And it's not like the GTA crowd is the target audience.
their license is VERY specific, bernie does not give you rights to use EVERYTHING
Sleeplessnights
Banned
That's not how it works, regardless of who the game is aimed at you can't research and say that a multi million selling game with a broad appeal has no one in our target audience.
So, I managed to go along to the press reveal event for this game last Thursday and have a go at both the Classic mode and the 2013 modes, but only on Time Trial no racing allowed. A couple of things to say
The Classic cars, especially the 1980s cars, are really fun to drive. No more challenging or realistic than the 2013 cars even on a 360 pad with no driving aids, but you can really throw them into the corners and feel the tyres about to let go in the high speed turns. Its really good fun, I have to admit. They feel like giant, super-powered go-karts.
1980s cars have a basic yellow HUD similar to the old basic graphics overlays from the actual Eighties while the 1990s cars have a yellow and blue HUD thats clearly modelled after the old F1Digital+ graphics from the late 90s to 2002, which is pretty cool. Each car drives differently, has unique engine sounds, gear and brake-balance changing animations and a unique tachometer on the external HUD thats different for each car.
Jerez looked great, really well lit and with neat touches like a load of hot air balloons in the background. Its also a heck of a lot of fun to drive with the high-speed sweepers and the fast pre-Donnelly right-kink before the final hairpin. The 1980s cars did have a semi-sepia screen filter placed on them, which we were told would make the game reflect the old analogue broadcasts of the day. Not sure thats the best decision, though.
The 2013 cars dont feel very different to 2012 to me. My very first lap of the game, I went to Time Trial mode, switched all assists off and could push pretty easily. One of my biggest disappointments was that it still seems as though cheesing the setup is the best way to go. 1-1 ride heights and 11-11 spring stiffness make the car quicker without any obvious drawbacks. All the setup options, driving aids, etc are still the same. No TV cameras in replay mode, still. Also no obvious ability to change cars or save in replay mode. No obvious changes to damage either.
There was a bug with the Sauber I drove looking as though it was producing spray from the front tyres constantly around a dry lap, but thatll surely be fixed before release. No other obvious issues or invisible walls, but I did launch the car into a wheelie, Mark Webber style when I turned into Copse corner to early and ran over the inside kerbs.
I can happily report that tyre scaling is back, as is the ability to race a full or custom championship in Grand Prix mode. Theyve also finally fixed the mirrors in cockpit view, so now you can actually see a car coming up behind you. The AI and penalty system are supposed to be improved, but I couldnt test that. You can now save the game mid-session or mid-race, which is good, but long-overdue.
Talked to one of devs who said there wasnt any major changes to online for this year, but he did say that penalties can be turned off by hosts. No mention of anything about the career mode either. Thats all I can write right now. Might be able to give more detailed feedback later on tonight.
The Classic cars, especially the 1980s cars, are really fun to drive. No more challenging or realistic than the 2013 cars even on a 360 pad with no driving aids, but you can really throw them into the corners and feel the tyres about to let go in the high speed turns. Its really good fun, I have to admit. They feel like giant, super-powered go-karts.
1980s cars have a basic yellow HUD similar to the old basic graphics overlays from the actual Eighties while the 1990s cars have a yellow and blue HUD thats clearly modelled after the old F1Digital+ graphics from the late 90s to 2002, which is pretty cool. Each car drives differently, has unique engine sounds, gear and brake-balance changing animations and a unique tachometer on the external HUD thats different for each car.
Jerez looked great, really well lit and with neat touches like a load of hot air balloons in the background. Its also a heck of a lot of fun to drive with the high-speed sweepers and the fast pre-Donnelly right-kink before the final hairpin. The 1980s cars did have a semi-sepia screen filter placed on them, which we were told would make the game reflect the old analogue broadcasts of the day. Not sure thats the best decision, though.
The 2013 cars dont feel very different to 2012 to me. My very first lap of the game, I went to Time Trial mode, switched all assists off and could push pretty easily. One of my biggest disappointments was that it still seems as though cheesing the setup is the best way to go. 1-1 ride heights and 11-11 spring stiffness make the car quicker without any obvious drawbacks. All the setup options, driving aids, etc are still the same. No TV cameras in replay mode, still. Also no obvious ability to change cars or save in replay mode. No obvious changes to damage either.
There was a bug with the Sauber I drove looking as though it was producing spray from the front tyres constantly around a dry lap, but thatll surely be fixed before release. No other obvious issues or invisible walls, but I did launch the car into a wheelie, Mark Webber style when I turned into Copse corner to early and ran over the inside kerbs.
I can happily report that tyre scaling is back, as is the ability to race a full or custom championship in Grand Prix mode. Theyve also finally fixed the mirrors in cockpit view, so now you can actually see a car coming up behind you. The AI and penalty system are supposed to be improved, but I couldnt test that. You can now save the game mid-session or mid-race, which is good, but long-overdue.
Talked to one of devs who said there wasnt any major changes to online for this year, but he did say that penalties can be turned off by hosts. No mention of anything about the career mode either. Thats all I can write right now. Might be able to give more detailed feedback later on tonight.
Chiaroscuro
Member
so it is a 15m/year license of just a boring sport? No wonder no dev want to pick it.
Sorry, the golden years of F1 was in the lower 90's. Actually, anything before that is golden. Today? Not so much.
bernie would want a LOT more than that a year to grant access to the entire f1 archive, dont think theres a company in the world that could afford his ransome
Big Takeover
Member
Thanks, Juicy B.
We've got both the hot laps video at 60 fps, if anyone cares:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_codemasters_announces_f1_2013-14318_en.html
Edit: Just checked the videos, the game itself is running at 29.97, the video is encoded at 59.94.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_codemasters_announces_f1_2013-14318_en.html
Edit: Just checked the videos, the game itself is running at 29.97, the video is encoded at 59.94.
Big Takeover
Member
Jeez, you weren't kidding with that classic filter. Talk about heavy handed.
Diablo Rosso
Member
No classic McLaren's? WTF?