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Faces in FFX ps2 vs. FFX ps3. What do you guys think? will ps4 version be better?
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Models AND textures, we've seen pics already and they are very noticeable
In motion, a lot of the face work changes so its not as bad as if your taking screenshots
They're not.
It is monstrously bad, what they did to Tidus' face. Holy crap.
Jawmuncher
Member
Complaints were more so that the other characters didn't get the same facelift. So it was a bit jarring to have a really nice character talking to a upres PSP character.
It s not worse at all.
They might not be cutscenes models but they looked good on an aesthetic level. Hell original ingame tidus looked better than meg ryan Tidus. The fact that he had less bones and animations is notable and jarring but it doesnt make him look bad.
Now the ps3 bottox/doll horror on the other hand, looks atrocious no matter what except from the back or from very far.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Ouch. Brutal.They're not.
Did they change the dialogue too?
^ Everything is the same
Yes the actual design in general is inferior compared to the original, but to be fair there are different LOD of the faces in the game used at different times..and the better LOD arent as offensive depending on which one you look at, that one in that pic is the lowest res one in the game.
Compared to this one which is the second highest
The issue is that they fucked up the LOD transitions in a lot of scenes, so the lowest level of the PS3 version would be compared with the highest scene(with mocap) of the PS2 version, which makes it look much worse than it should.
They probably changed the faces because the lowest level LOD of the PS2 faces was absurdly low, just a flat texture, which would have messed with the presentation i guess was their thought
Yes the actual design in general is inferior compared to the original, but to be fair there are different LOD of the faces in the game used at different times..and the better LOD arent as offensive depending on which one you look at, that one in that pic is the lowest res one in the game.
Compared to this one which is the second highest
The issue is that they fucked up the LOD transitions in a lot of scenes, so the lowest level of the PS3 version would be compared with the highest scene(with mocap) of the PS2 version, which makes it look much worse than it should.
They probably changed the faces because the lowest level LOD of the PS2 faces was absurdly low, just a flat texture, which would have messed with the presentation i guess was their thought
Broder Salsa
Banned
I fucking hate Tidus face no matter what version
My god Tidus in the bottom picture...They're not.
nemisis0
Member
Aha that gif gets me every time, but seriously that does not look like tidus but a young kid with a man's body.
Dice//
Banned
stargateheaven
Member
They're not.
I'm sorry. There is no excuse for this face. Did the shanghai company make them?
Auron on the other hand.. he looks great IMO.
And even the background ground texture has been improved. Too bad the focus is always on tidus.. Jarring.
Spiritwalker
Member
Yep, new faces are horrible. No personality whatsoever.
They should also update the NPC models, but it seems they're too lazy to bother with that stuff. Type-0 had the same issue, and it was jarring as hell.
They should also update the NPC models, but it seems they're too lazy to bother with that stuff. Type-0 had the same issue, and it was jarring as hell.
They're not.
Faces of Botox.
^ What did you see? The PS4 version in screenshots is much more noticeable side by side
What result? The remaster is great, the face designs are a hit or miss. Should not stop anyone from playing the game
They're not.
Actually, the bottom screenshot comes from an early build of the remaster. This is what the retail version got:
Granted, it's not much better.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Wtf happened with Tidus' hair here?
protomouse
Member
I have the original. These remasters kind of insult it.
sensui-tomo
Member
Someone swapped it out for Blooming onions.
I wish i could photo edit onion petals for hair.
Flame Lord
Member
I imagine they'll stay the same. Hopefully they fix those ugly ass NPC faces.
Chinpoko_Master
Member
What happened to Wakka? Looks like a different person.
is this a joke?
The Last One
Member
I know, but i just posted the image to point out that the textures got a lot better in the HD remaster.
Virtuous as far as I'm aware did practically everything, Square Enix did almost nothing apart from assisting by reassembling original assets and having a small hand in the scores remaster, and publishing the game.
It's been a long time since keeping up on the HD development though, so take it with a grain of salt.
The menus are redone excellently in X HD though imo, X-2 less so.
As said, those are alpha faces. THe retail versions are somewhat different
NeOak
Member
Vs.
The option to switch between the HD and original character models is what it needs.
Yeah no.
I'd rather came the preorder and buy the PS2 version to play it on PCSX2.
StoppedInTracks
Member
They're not.
Piggy Tidus. They even destroyed his hair WTF
thequickandthedead
Member
Vs.
The option to switch between the HD and original character models is what it needs.
The PS2 version looks like Yuna is made of clay.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Jesus he is so swollen...
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I would consider buying if they had an option to revert those model changes.
It really bothers me just looking at them in screenshots.
It really bothers me just looking at them in screenshots.
GoldandBlue
Member
Vs.
The option to switch between the HD and original character models is what it needs.
Man when the faces for the HD version were revealed, I was just scratching my head over the change. Seeing this makes it even harder to understand why they did that.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Off topic
The models of the pirates in the pirates of the Caribbean world in kingdom hearts 2 look better than some PS3 games. Crazy how impressive they are.
The models of the pirates in the pirates of the Caribbean world in kingdom hearts 2 look better than some PS3 games. Crazy how impressive they are.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Just sums up everything wrong with the new faces
god no....
That's crazy. Makes me wonder how much staff worked on Wind Waker HD by comparison.
GoldandBlue
Member
The effort put into those models for characters that only appeared in one world.
Still amazes me now. Makes me excited to see what they do in KH3.
Man even the characters for Tron Legacy world in KH3D were amazing.
Dick Justice
Banned
They're not.
I think I prefer Auron's old look.
Also, I wonder how the new faces were received by Japanese players. Maybe Square was trying to cater to a specific demographic with the new models? Regardless, they look godawful, and I sincerely wish they made a PC version so modders could fix that shit.
Play on emulator with widescreen patch. You lose menus. You gain faces you can look at without vomiting.
No, I was just saying how bad the dialogue was originally lol. Making the faces worse is just an even worse package.
Dick Justice
Banned
HD release has noticeably improved texture work, though. Plus PCSX2 always has its own annoyances.
Tidesofblood
Member
I ended up getting the vita vision and almost got the platinum trophy and loved the graphic improvements but not sure PS4 is going to be that much better.
But playing in the big screen is always fun
But playing in the big screen is always fun
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I held off on another playthrough of FFX to wait for the remaster. It's a little disheartening that because of a number of oddities, like the messed up faces, the PS2 version is still arguably the better way to play it.
I hope they switch the faces back for the PS4 version, but... I wouldn't count on it.
I hope they switch the faces back for the PS4 version, but... I wouldn't count on it.
They're not.
Just realized Auron's face has been changed too...
His face is sort of squished together now...His eyes,nose and mouth are all closer together and his expression is different...
ugh :v
Tidus_Great
Banned
i don't think noticing the botch job they did on the main characters faces is nitpicking. It's a story driven game and I have to stare at faces, it sucks when the new faces are creepy and bad
. Especially Tidus, I mean it legitimately hurt my enjoyment of my favorite game of all time PowderedToast
Junior Member
iirc the original models were hand animated to the jp dub, so if square lost the source files they couldn't just up res them as lip sync standards have changed and there would be an expectation for them to match the english. so it makes sense that they built it from the ground up, it's just of a much lower quality
the original ffx was a remarkable achievement in that regard
the original ffx was a remarkable achievement in that regard
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