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[Hoje0308]

I mean, I'm also confused why so many people are praising the graphics. I feel like its Twilight Zone the movie or something.

They don't look bad in the PNG screenshots we've seen. If you're judging the quality using those horribly compressed Pastebin videos, then I don't know what to tell you.

which vid that have 3rd person gameplay?

You read enough to know that it exists, but then stopped reading and posted instead? Okay

 

[Chanser]

I'm beginning to wonder whether my 5770 can run this.

 

[Vinc]

I watched a little bit of these. I'm an idiot. Now going on full blackout until it's in my hands.


Can't friggin wait.

 

[Askherserenity]

I do realize the recording of the game is off. I'm not trying to agitate people. I just want to know what's so great about these games. I'm not trolling.

I couldn't get into Dark Souls for a while and now I'm in love with the series. I just want to know why this game gets such universal praise and sells gangbusters.

Not trolling. My first post was shitty. Sorry. I should've posted this as my first.

Because they're pretty good RPG's with a very distinctive world and theme? The games mean a lot of things to different people. I dunno.

Why talk shit about a series you haven't even played?

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

After playing so many Bethesda games I know the graphics won't be good so I have no big complaints but I'm getting real sick of people trying to jedi hand wave others into believing it looks fucking amazing. You can think it looks amazing and that's fine but there's some stuff in there that can be objectively analyzed as looking pretty bad.

 

[Panda Rin]

Looks fantastic to me. Would it be nice if the animations and graphics were better? Sure, but I certainly didn't play FO3 or NV for those things...it's a pretty significant upgrade from ice skating in third person.

 

[Dmax3901]

I have a complaint of a different kind: the voice acting of those super mutants is super grating.

Also I expect this thread to be at fifty pages when I next check in.

 

[texhnolyze]

I'm beginning to wonder whether my 5770 can run this.

Pretty sure you can at 30fps lock, on low/medium, perhaps.

 

[Shamdeo]

 

[jacobeid]

I can't wait to play it, and I really hope they get a new engine for their next game.

Spoiler

Been saying this New Vegas.

 

[Disxo]

Snake! Bring the water gun

 

[Cabbagehead]

After playing so many Bethesda games I know the graphics won't be good so I have no big complaints but I'm getting real sick of people trying to jedi hand wave others into believing it looks fucking amazing.

agreed.

Character models are bad.
Animation are bad.
Graphics are sub par.

Lets hope this is a really good game backed behind its success.

 

[fertygo]

You read enough to know that it exists, but then stopped reading and posted instead? Okay

Man if you can't answer why not just ignore me? I'm too lazy to slog through 4 video to see 1 section that I'm interested, ok?

 

[BruceCLea]

Because they're pretty good RPG's with a very distinctive world and theme? The games mean a lot of things to different people. I dunno.

Why talk shit about a series you haven't even played?

I've played Fallout 3 and I enjoyed it. I got really excited for this announcement because I wanted a more fleshed out and beautiful experience and it wasn't it. All the gaming sites just love it simply because it's "Fallout" and they don't really say anything other than that.

I got frustrated and acted like an asshole. Again, sorry.

 

[Olengie]

Looks great

 

[Faenix1]

Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Skyrim all looks pretty dated upon release compared to other games and we all pretty much loved them.

I don't understand the whining all of a sudden. It's not until the modding community does a Bethesda game start looking really good.

 

[Lenz44]

Without spoiling too much, how is the dialogue stuff looking? That's the only real thing that's made me concerned. I hope its all being blown out of proportion or something.

 

[Hoje0308]

I do realize the recording of the game is off. I'm not trying to agitate people. I just want to know what's so great about these games. I'm not trolling.

I couldn't get into Dark Souls for a while and now I'm in love with the series. I just want to know why this game gets such universal praise and sells gangbusters.

Not trolling. My first post was shitty. Sorry. I should've posted this as my first.

Despite the jank and the bugs, the games fucking ooze atmosphere. There's a dark sense of humor running through the series as well that's quite endearing if that's your thing, and it's easy to actually play a role in these games, which is nice given the genre. Add in weapon customization, base building and the ability to be a total creep/sociopath and you have the reasons I'm looking forward to FO4.

Oh, and the violence is fantastic as well. If you're not convinced by launch, it's not outside of the realm of reason to think a GIF of a man exploding into pieces in FO4 will sell you on the game at some point.

Man if you can't answer why not just ignore me? I'm too lazy to slog through 4 video to see 1 section that I'm interested, ok?

Obviously. Alternatively, you could have kept reading and found the answer a short time later, as it's been mentioned more than once. Too lazy to read, but not too lazy to ask or whine. Good luck with that.

 

[Hero Prinny]

Without spoiling too much, how is the dialogue stuff looking? That's the only real thing that's made me concerned. I hope its all being blown out of proportion or something.

its pretty much exactly like mass effect. If you like that, you'll like this, whatever issues you have with that one you're gonna have with this one.

me personally? i hate it. I hate bioware's dialogue system and I'm really disappointed they adopted their shitty system.

 

[the_batman]

I've played Fallout 3 and I enjoyed it. I got really excited for this announcement because I wanted a more fleshed out and beautiful experience and it wasn't it. All the gaming sites just love it simply because it's "Fallout" and they don't really say anything other than that.

I got frustrated and acted like an asshole. Again, sorry.

calm down, bruh. don't let the wet blankets spoil your vibes

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

That city looked pretty sweet and a lot more open than I expected, also the lighting goes beautifully with the pastel art style. That said, a lot of those textures def look low res, and kind of makes me nervous about how this will scale on PC. My processor is already behind the curve for the recommended as is sooo...this should be interesting

 

[Tovarisc]

Thank you! Now I await someone to buidl a build calculator

Keep eye on http://vault111.com/character/ as I expect them to update all Perks with these final descriptions.

 

[Floody]

I don't really have much of a problem with the game's visuals, but that gun is way too big, hopefully it's just that gun, if not I'm playing in 3rd person.

 

[Hero Prinny]

I don't really have much of a problem with the games visuals, but that gun is way too big, hopefully it's just that gun, if not I'm playing in 3rd person.

that gun is pretty big in 3 and NV too.

 

[120v]

gives me vibes of wolfenstein and bioshock

good enough for me

 

[Askherserenity]

I've played Fallout 3 and I enjoyed it. I got really excited for this announcement because I wanted a more fleshed out and beautiful experience and it wasn't it. All the gaming sites just love it simply because it's "Fallout" and they don't really say anything other than that.

I got frustrated and acted like an asshole. Again, sorry.

It's cool. I thought you were just talking crap about the series without even playing them. I agree with you about wanting FO4 to look better. I was a bit bummed out when I saw the videos as well.

Doesn't mean the game can't be great though ;]

 

[Shamdeo]

I don't really have much of a problem with the games visuals, but that gun is way too big, hopefully it's just that gun, if not I'm playing in 3rd person.

I cropped it a bit for the .gif, it's not that huge.

 

[texhnolyze]

It's also similar to Teltalle games dialogue wheels, I think.

 

[BruceCLea]

It's cool. I thought you were just talking crap about the series without even playing them. I agree with you about wanting FO4 to look better. I was a bit bummed out when I saw the videos as well.

Doesn't mean the game can't be great though ;]

I really want to be proven wrong btw. I want this game to be fucking awesome for everybody.

 

[callmedave]

Some character creation footage.

Looks like a decent selection of hair styles.

Edit: Removed, Try that instead.

 

[rjinaz]

female character creator footage:

https://vid.me/KLJW

 

[Floody]

that gun is pretty big in 3 and NV too.

I know, most were in those games (only really the revolver was kinda small), I played them in 3rd person too on console, until I got a decent PC and made them a reasonable size, and played them in 1st person. I'm away from my PC for a few months still, so won't have that option for awhile.

I cropped it a bit for the .gif, it's not that huge.

Oh, well that's reassuring. But, as the other guy kinda pointed out, they have a track record of having overly big weapons (even the TES games have that issue). I guess I'll try and find some small weapons to use when in 1st person, as I do like playing them that way.

 

[Askherserenity]

I really want to be proven wrong btw. I want this game to be fucking awesome for everybody.

SAME HERE!

We'll find out soon enough

 

[Icyflamez96]

Yay I was hoping videos would leak.

 

[Askherserenity]

female character creator footage:

https://vid.me/KLJW

This is making me so happy after just making a new FONV character a couple days ago.

 

[spannicus]

Graphics look like the bare minimum.

 

[MattyG]

It's also similar to Teltalle games dialogue wheels, I think.

Yeah, it's actually much closer to TT than Bioware.

Telltale/Fallout 4 = dialogue options mapped to face buttons.
Bioware = dialogue wheel

 

[shinobi602]

I can't hold it in anymore. This game looks like dog shit. Just awful. Last gen games look better.









sorry

Can't be a true Bethesda thread without it.

 

[texhnolyze]

female character creator footage:

https://vid.me/KLJW

Oooh, I think I found a femShep hairstyle there.
Yeah, that's surprisingly a lot.

 

[Aztechnology]

In the leaked videos, anyone have any idea what difficulty they are playing on? Looks like a joke. I mean those enemies are just fodder.

 

[bananafactory]

Can't be a true Bethesda thread without it.

We need more PNGs. Or gameplay vids.

Save us

 

[rjinaz]

In the leaked videos, anyone have any idea what difficulty they are playing on? Looks like a joke. I mean those enemies are just fodder.

It's got to be very easy or easy. No way SMs go down that fast on normal or harder.

 

[CGwizz]

I will get this for sure ( if the framerate is good on ps4 ) and i bet the game is fun but holy shit at those faces, it looks last gen, character models are horrible...

 

[Jibbajabbawockky]

The lip movement in this game is super distracting.

The lip sync and facial animations are just shockingly bad. Maybe that's cause I'm playing through The Witcher 3 expansion but and the facial animations and lip sync there are pretty great but holy shit this looks rough even by Bethesda standards. The over exaggerated body language doesn't help either. Like that salesman in the first video, the mouth isn't even close to matching up with anything he's saying.

The whole push towards BioWare style cutscene cinematics and the voiced protagonist approach seemed at complete odds with how Bethesda games have been presented before and at least based on these videos, that more cinematic approach just highlights how poor the animations and presentation is.

I was all ready to get this day 1 just because its Fallout but with so many other games out, these videos have really cooled me to the game. It looks astoundingly rough and janky, even for Bethesda standards. And not even in a goofy sort of way but just in a bad way since the shift towards a voiced PC and that presentation means somebody there thought what they were doing was good enough for that to hold up.

 

[Solid Samus]

The lip sync and facial animations are just shockingly bad. Maybe that's cause I'm playing through The Witcher 3 expansion but and the facial animations and lip sync there are pretty great but holy shit this looks rough even by Bethesda standards. The over exaggerated body language doesn't help either. Like that salesman in the first video, the mouth isn't even close to matching up with anything he's saying.

The whole push towards BioWare style cutscene cinematics and the voiced protagonist approach seemed at complete odds with how Bethesda games have been presented before and at least based on these videos, that more cinematic approach just highlights how poor the animations and presentation is.

I was all ready to get this day 1 just because its Fallout but with so many other games out, these videos have really cooled me to the game. It looks astoundingly rough and janky, even for Bethesda standards. And not even in a goofy sort of way but just in a bad way since the shift towards a voiced PC and that presentation means somebody there thought what they were doing was good enough for that to hold up.

The lip syncing issues are a problem with the video, not the game. As I pointed out earlier, the salesman's lip syncing and animation in general didn't look quite as bad in the less compressed and less desync'd E3 showing.

and here's Preston Garvey

 

[Zombie James]

Some character creation footage.

Looks like a decent selection of hair styles.

Good beard selection.

 

[LongDongJunon]

This looks like something I'd actually want to actively play thanks to the updated gunplay as opposed to 3 and NV which looked like laborious chores to try to get into.

This is coming from someone who has always wanted to experience the latter fallout games but has been driven away by the clunky gameplay.

Not tryna drive-by shit on the series in anyway, I'm just saying that this looks much more accessible than previous entries if this footage is anything to go by.

 

[Plasmid]

I seriously doubt that the syncing is a game issue. It had to be the video. Will wait for the game before making sync judgments.

 

[OverdriveOtaku]

Jeez, ZeniMax has these videos on lockdown pretty fast.

 

[Solid Samus]

I seriously doubt that the syncing is a game issue. It had to be the video. Will wait for the game before making sync judgments.

It's not even like this is the only footage of the player speaking with NPCs that we have to go on. There's been footage of that shit since E3, available in much clearer and less obfuscated videos, that depict neither desync issues or shoddy lip syncing. So the fact that people are assuming that's the game and not the video is just plain blowing my mind.