something fishy
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is there a thread on that? the xb ones seem to be getting much more attention here.
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famousmortimer: Xbox One OS and Xbox Live issues bouncing about as we approach launch
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is there a thread on that? the xb ones seem to be getting much more attention here.
lifeexpectancy
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I nominate "proponent of tragedy" as your avatar quote going forward. I read your post, but when I got to that edit, I laughed so hard I peed a little.
if you are getting one day one of them and the other one in spring, I would buy in opposite order just for the games available.
LiquidSolid
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He's one of the "Sony has DRM too!" guys, he created Tales from My Ass IV, he called out CBOAT over something ridiculous and was delivered a reply by the buttocks himself. And that's just the stuff I remember, he's been feasting on crow regularly all year.
As for him being right, rubbish. Software is a moving target, it's not a locked down piece of hardware, so of course they're leaving the door open for these issues to be fixed. It's common fucking sense. And what's your solution to this then? Require leakers to be able to predict the future? Or should they keep quiet until the day before launch and only then inform us of what they know?
Either trust the mods to vet the leakers, approve/disprove of their posts and ban anyone that's talking shit or don't enter these threads in the first place.
Agreed, if the situation is that they simply cannot get the OS in a stable state fit for general usage. But even as someone whos only getting a PS4, I really hope it doesnt come to that and MS can at the very least drum up something that is stable enough to play games even if literally everything else has to be disabled initially.
Id have no sympathy for MS if it did come to that, but Id have the upmost for the gamers that just want to finally play the games.
SwiftDeath
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Right and what about his numerous follow-up posts on GAF that further elaborates it?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/search.php?searchid=8107174
Plus I've been mentioning this idea every 5 pages or so to try and get a rise out of the mods as I'd love anything from them at this point
Scroll down on my summary to PS4 news
I tried to contain it all in there
THREAD SUMMARY FOR NEW PAGE
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=87786946#post87786946
What. Why are you even making that comparison?
This seems almost too crazy to be true. I know Mortimer's track record, but this level of supposed dysfunction inside MS is just baffeling.
I would have thought that carrying on with an X360 style system would have been a no-brainer.
I'm not sure I believe this, not becasue I don't trust Mortimer, but because this level of stupidity seems completely counterintuitive too me.
I would have thought that carrying on with an X360 style system would have been a no-brainer.
I'm not sure I believe this, not becasue I don't trust Mortimer, but because this level of stupidity seems completely counterintuitive too me.
Always-honest
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That's another thing... I think a big reason for the delay is making voice commands work for all the different languages.
I will never understand why they decided to push this tech soo much... All can be done with simple quiet button prompts that have a zero failure rate..
From the maker of such threads as...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=650659&highlight=
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=563713&highlight=
Heard that a lot from 360 users. Never gotten it. I pick up everything from a stick to WASD weekly and never felt that "weird". If anything it's been weird if I've been using the same controller for to long. Nothing is a good fit for me :/
something fishy
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sounds the same, neither are finished, both could be broken.
I've a feeling both will be fine though.
Opus Angelorum
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Well the hope was that by March/April Titanfall would be out and any issues with the Xbox One would have been resolved.
Never liked the DS3 really, hurts my hands after a few hours.
Uno Venova
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I've never heard of these issues before, what do you mean by 'zero new info'?
something fishy
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Thanks.
How would that conflict? They already have it where one person can be watching Netflix and the others can be playing games and still be party chatting. From his blog post, it sounds like they went back to pre-party days.
I have not, and unfortunately, I am too lazy to bother. Do you recall offhand his explanation?
The Xbox One's alternative title could be Xbox Vista going by the info going around.
Sony are having OS issue? Really?
Baron Aloha
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I skipped over 25 pages but needless to say I'm a bit skeptical about this, to put it lightly. Surely this is something they would have had finished months ago.
Has cboat commented on this?
Has cboat commented on this?
I meant since the thread started.
Man tell us some info on dem SCE games.
LiquidSolid
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If I were planning on getting an Xbone, I'd wait for a price drop. There's just no way I can see Microsoft not getting desperate and dropping the price at some point next year, whether they drop Kinect at the same time or not.
Opus Angelorum
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If they weren't planning on launching until 2014, and the recent workflow was based around the DRM implementation then it the '180' will have thrown everything off.
I suppose that's a real possibility. I'd prefer to wait if they sold it without Kinect.
this is just the gamble you take when buying (either) console at launch. just wait it out till the next wave of games hit early next year. by then software should be patched and more stable, any hardware faults will be known about and more importantly there will be a bigger library of games out for you to choose from.
dragonelite
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Haha, no a software project this big is never finished its only abandoned.
SwiftDeath
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Damn my natural accommodating nature
By info do you mean specifics as to why the technical problems are happening or more confirmations as to whats broken?
Because as my post above illustrates, we've had new info on both
Xbox 8. So many similarities with how MS fucked everything great about Windows 7.
The sooner Ballmer leaves MS, the better.
Many with insider knowledge have commented on this fact, biggest issue was lack of PSN connectivity ......... but this is due to the fact that PSN for PS4 has not launched yet.
Thee are also some crashes etc but nothing major, this and the fact that the OS has been out in the wild (Gertsmann referred to the French video of two guys using it).
It's not that the rare no issues for PS4, its that they are the expected last minute issues and in comparison to the issues MS are having they are nowhere near as significant.
I'm confused as to why you are confused.
yes, I was talking about day 1 games, where xbone seems to bring better shit out of the gate.
spring is titanfall yes, but is also driveclub/infamous for ps4 and then hopefully destiny may drop on both too.
With hardware and OS(s) this complex with this new gen, it is no wonder. There are bound to be issues on both sides of the fence. There's little doubt PS4 early adopters will have some issues, but it seems early XBO adapters may face more & worse issues if even half of what has been said is true.
I'm glad I didn't pre-order either console. I'll probably get a PS4 in Feb or March and maybe the XBO much later into 2014.
For those getting XBO this year, I hope the engineers at Microsoft pull off some miracles so that basic functionality, playing games offline & online work as soon as they plug in their consoles. My brother works in software engineering outside of the game industry so I do feel bad for those guys burning the candle at both ends.
I'm glad I didn't pre-order either console. I'll probably get a PS4 in Feb or March and maybe the XBO much later into 2014.
For those getting XBO this year, I hope the engineers at Microsoft pull off some miracles so that basic functionality, playing games offline & online work as soon as they plug in their consoles. My brother works in software engineering outside of the game industry so I do feel bad for those guys burning the candle at both ends.
doesn't sound the same at all to me. the whole reason this thread was started was due to very specific allegations of important stuff not working on the xbone that are seemingly not possible to fix in time for launch
but, FWIW, I don't think MS will have broken multiplayer for a long time after launch. I'm guessing that any problems will be ironed out within two weeks for all games.
the thought of the system being broken for months until early 2014 seems crazy. Certainly not impossible, but really crazy for MS to ship a console with a fundamental feature broken for so long. I don't think it'll happen.
Fun fact a lot of dutch people speak english as a second language.
Off-topic but do you know if the Dubai royal family prefers Xbox or Playstation?
Opus Angelorum
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I might just hold off on both to be honest, I'm saving for my wedding next November and I've got enough gadgets already (according to my better half).
Absolutely. If you don't want to put yourself through a launch/early adopter period then wait a few months. Christmas though will be tough for parents or kids to go through without caving in and buying one of these consoles as a gift.
Give me a couple months to get launch out of the way. GAF is too stupid right now. I'll give you the biggest news you'll likely hear for a good few years then. Please be excited.
55 pages and Chinner makes more sense than all of you.
I'm abandoning my species and joining his.
Always-honest
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Yes they do ;p. So don't delay it for the Netherlands!!,
Thanks for the summary! I've pre-ordered PS4 so I'm glad to see (judging from these rumors) there are no major problems on Sony's side. For MS however, it looks a bit worse right now, but I think they will manage to iron these things out by launch..
Baron Aloha
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Well true, it is never "finished"...but they would have it working without all of these bugs by this stage... you would think.
SwiftDeath
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You know your ticket to Gaf's Next Gen hype train was just voided right?
Seriously you don't even get to try the complimentary cookies or anything
Huh someone actually just quoted my summary
Wondered if that would happen
Dudes, Dudes. Look at how x360 and ps3 launched, 8 years ago. They can hardly be compared to their current renditions in terms of UI, features, graphics and even looks. It's a console launch, whatcha gonna do ? Consoles gonna console.
I have fully paid off my Ps4, but i'm fully expecting a whole bunch of shit coming late, a software drought, and perhaps even some hardware difficulties. You want to headline into the new generation ? You have to calculate in the risks. It's the way the cookie has crumbled since, forever.
So in short, Yes xBone has a rocky start. But what console hasn't ? And what console hasn't recovered from it ?
I have fully paid off my Ps4, but i'm fully expecting a whole bunch of shit coming late, a software drought, and perhaps even some hardware difficulties. You want to headline into the new generation ? You have to calculate in the risks. It's the way the cookie has crumbled since, forever.
So in short, Yes xBone has a rocky start. But what console hasn't ? And what console hasn't recovered from it ?
Shanks D Zoro
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I want to be excited now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty much. Seems like a particular bad launch, but it'll be better by next fall.
Just be thankful. A clusterfuck of epic proportions would have been if this had been before the 180.
something fishy
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Sum-Mischief
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Well if all these problems are going on. I see it being a work in progress and they would need to fix things in priority. Now launch is a month away they have time.
But anything can happen when the system gets in the public hands. That what's should be more concern. Stuff that wasn't seen in the closed environment.
Hope it gets iron out sooner than much later.
But anything can happen when the system gets in the public hands. That what's should be more concern. Stuff that wasn't seen in the closed environment.
Hope it gets iron out sooner than much later.
hey! congrats!
but get all gadgets and toys you want before you become legally engaged LOL
I don't think it's fear mongering at all but you are right: we will know soon enough. But I do think there is enough info here for prospective buys to take a cautious approach. Especially considering MS's track record.
As an Australian who speaks English as a first language, most voice systems can't understand me.... You've got no hope.
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