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Fan asks Spencer for backwards compat, Spencer pats fan on head and says he supports
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dragonelite
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And emulating the 3.2Ghz CPU 6 threads will make it hard with six 1.6Ghz cores.
Time will tell.
If it is like the PS3 trying to run PS2 games using emulation they have to do it title by title which means paying someone to get these games to work and get no financial benefits out of it.
They would lost money on games like the Master Chief collection where it would be cheaper to get the game second hand and play using backward compatible than shell out the $60 for the set.
They would lost money on games like the Master Chief collection where it would be cheaper to get the game second hand and play using backward compatible than shell out the $60 for the set.
Also there is the consideration of the EDRAM and it's attached logic.
While emulating the logic via GPGPU should be easy, the bandwidth between the logic and EDRAM was enormous.
Should be interesting to see if they can do it or not.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Exactly, I can't see it working without additional hardware as the clock-speed differential I think will be an absolute bear to workaround. Especially a multi-core processor where losing synchronization across cores will cause all kinds of strange effects.
Miles Quaritch
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Backwards compatibility in the form of a streaming service? Or in the form of remastered (or just a light touch up) of highly requested games?
DudeWithNoName
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Funny that some on here are saying Phil is promising this. Link please to anywhere where he BC will happen?
Dark Octave
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What has he promised so far? All he told the guy was that he wrote a good paper.
Miles Quaritch
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Normally I'd agree, but he's promised nothing here. He's simply said he agrees with the write up and that that the person should continue to push for BC.
Hardly the same as his teasing with Phantom Dust, Crackdown, etc.
Who says that?
Exploratory
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First of all its not about not doubting Phil Spencer. I doubt Phil until he delivers. Second you made a post that was just wrong and then tried to pass it off as a joke when it wasn't. Phil doesn't promise anything he just responds to people on twitter. This is a clear example of that.
First of all its not about not doubting Phil Spencer. I doubt Phil until he delivers. Second you made a post that was just wrong and then tried to pass it off as a joke when it wasn't. Phil doesn't promise anything he just responds to people on twitter. This is a clear example of that.
You're just over reacting now, it was a joke. I know he didn't promise anything, was just a comment on his trend to agree a lot with people OR promise things. Not saying he promised anything here. Jeez.
rokkerkory
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I can't believe lack of reading comprehension.
Well, since you asked:
Here's to hoping at E3
Citizen_Insane
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At this point I don't even care what it comes out on.
I don't really see backwards compatibility ever coming, though. Why allow that when you can just sell remasters like how Sony did with PS2 games?
akidnamededdy
Banned
I will gladly take this over what XBox division was doing last year with their messaging.
Jimmyfenix
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Well this is really something.
It's not expecting, it's hoping.
Nothing's wrong with having a little hope. You should find something in your life that gives you hope.
Basically, give the man a chance, he's been in power for no more than a couple of months or so. Why the hell you expecting instant results. And have you ignored all the other good shit he's done recently?
CambriaRising
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Lol okay this one got me.
This is what is holding me off on Xbox One. I had way to many download titles, especially arcade and maybe I was naive in them transferring over, but it still sucks. So I've just been going with Steam as much as I can now. I have more faith in being able to move my stuff to a new PC later then the Xbox Twoiie or whatever.
The majority of posters in this thread still says "no", but there will always be those who opposes.
Should't come as a surprise that there are different believes and opinions here.
Yeah, it is possible. The question is if they were to do it, would they be able to make a one solution fits all approach or would they be forced to do it game by game? Likely the latter.
It probably wouldn't be perfect, either. But at least this time there would be the benefit of straight resolution support! (Since every game had to support 720p)
BananaSprinkles
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What "good shit" has he done recently? Removing the kinect? I'm pretty sure it was higher ups who gave the go ahead for that. And I'm pretty sure people who bought into Microsoft's vision of "kinect = integral part" aren't happy with the change.
Ninja Scooter
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Would it even be worth the trouble at that point? I mean, outside of diehards and collectors, who the hell still has original xbox games lying around? Who would that really appeal to?
Kinect, App Paywall, Focus on games.You're pretty sure? I mean do you work there or something?
If they pull this off.... Yup I am going to be buying all those 360 titles that are must haves right after rebuying the xbone...
LukasTaves
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What is he promising there?
Of course its possible. Making the emulator run roughly as well as a native Xbox 360 is a different story.
Its not feasibly possible unless there's some secret sauce in the Xbone that helps with emulation. The APU itself is too weak and different to straight up brute force emulate decade old consoles like an Intel processor can.
GloriousBagel
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Spencer Senpai
I think it'll probably be the latter like the 360 but would still be pretty huge. I think BC can easily sway someone who's on the end of picking up a console.
BTW the original title was "Backwards Compatibility on Xbox One - Phil Spencer Approves " for those who asked
My point with this thread was that Phil Spencer seems to highlight things that are coming to xbox with his obfuscated tweets. He mentioned getting rid of app paywall in a very similar way a weeks before it happened. If nothing was going to happen, why wouldn't he ignore the tweet? He gets thousands and thousands of tweets and only responds to a few dozen each week
This on top of the mention of backwards compatibility at Build makes me believe that it is in the pipeline in some form. I don't think that would be streamed games as that is not bc. I think it is believable that it could be with a hardware addon for the xbone as such a thing was rumored for a while.
And for those who are saying on this thread that such a feat with the xbox hardware would be impossible, I would love to hear your qualifications...the gentleman who said there were plans was Frank Savage who is a development lead at Xbox...more likely to believe his opinion
Again if there were no plans to do so why would they keep mentioning it?
My point with this thread was that Phil Spencer seems to highlight things that are coming to xbox with his obfuscated tweets. He mentioned getting rid of app paywall in a very similar way a weeks before it happened. If nothing was going to happen, why wouldn't he ignore the tweet? He gets thousands and thousands of tweets and only responds to a few dozen each week
This on top of the mention of backwards compatibility at Build makes me believe that it is in the pipeline in some form. I don't think that would be streamed games as that is not bc. I think it is believable that it could be with a hardware addon for the xbone as such a thing was rumored for a while.
And for those who are saying on this thread that such a feat with the xbox hardware would be impossible, I would love to hear your qualifications...the gentleman who said there were plans was Frank Savage who is a development lead at Xbox...more likely to believe his opinion
Again if there were no plans to do so why would they keep mentioning it?
Well, assuming he had the last word in these-
Dropping gold paywall
Games for gold on Xone
Rise of nations acquisition? (Guessing)
Unbundling kinect (despite me not really agreeing with that one)
Gears of war franchise being purchased out right
Fable anniversary coming to PC
Did I miss anything?
Plug in your 360 into X1 HDMI-In port and you could play 360 game in 1080p with their superior upscaler. Microsoft just need to announce this in E3 and call it done.
Seriously, Microsoft might be able to do BC with X1. Just spawn another VM and try to emulate 360 hardware closely in it. They might be able to pull it off, but it won't be in near future. Might be after 2 or 3 years ahead.
Seriously, Microsoft might be able to do BC with X1. Just spawn another VM and try to emulate 360 hardware closely in it. They might be able to pull it off, but it won't be in near future. Might be after 2 or 3 years ahead.
why are you going to rebuy an X1?
Backwards compatibility on Xbox One - Phil Spencer Approves
Like as if that actually means something....
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