Oh I'm sure, though the consensus seem to be that in this particular case there is a noticeable performance hit going dx11.
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Far Cry 3 PC performance thread
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Oh I'm sure, though the consensus seem to be that in this particular case there is a noticeable performance hit going dx11.
Nope, I see worse performance in DX11 across the board. 7970 here
I can only think that they do some things only with DX11 on.
Perhaps the GI for a local lights?
Skyfireblaze
Member
Well then lets try how it goes with all kinds of SSAO disabled then, will report back in a minute
Update:
It's not the SSAO which causes this...
New Settings:
Results:
I don't know what to make of this.
memecomplex
Member
Like mentioned before, I can attest to getting vastly improved performance by setting AA in inspector instead of in game. With AA set to 4x MSAA @ 2540x1440 I can set Post FX to Ultra and get 60 fps. Not sure if it makes a diff but I've also disabled FXAA in inspector.
Btw. the reflections of the water in the highest setting produces anomalies at times, like reflecting your jetski the size of a mountain Or in DX9 with the SGSSAA bit, the water completely disappears!
Off to try 8xQ!
8xQ works great, slight hitching here and there and drops in geometry heavy areas, but 60 fps mostly.
I don't understand, in fact 8xQ performs just as well as 4x multisampling... with slightly better image quality. This game is weird.
Btw. the reflections of the water in the highest setting produces anomalies at times, like reflecting your jetski the size of a mountain
Or in DX9 with the SGSSAA bit, the water completely disappears! Off to try 8xQ!
8xQ works great, slight hitching here and there and drops in geometry heavy areas, but 60 fps mostly.
I don't understand, in fact 8xQ performs just as well as 4x multisampling... with slightly better image quality. This game is weird.
Skyfireblaze
Member
Yes there is
Go to: My Documents\My Games\Far Cry 3 and then open the file GamerProfile.xml with any text-editor. Now add the following after </CustomQuality>
Substitute id="medium" /> with whatever you have the Post Processing setting set to and then make the file write-protected. For a example of how the file can look, look at my screenshot above.
Yes there is
Go to: My Documents\My Games\Far Cry 3 and then open the file GamerProfile.xml with any text-editor. Now add the following after </CustomQuality>
Substitute id="medium" /> with whatever you have the Post Processing setting set to and then make the file write-protected. For a example of how the file can look, look at my screenshot above.
Could you paste your config, I'd like to try it out but I'm too lazy to edit it manually right now.
I have a 6950 2GB and I'm using the latest 12.11 beta. So I should be getting about the same performance as you.
memecomplex
Member
Is there a config setting to fix the sometimes horrific texture/LOD pop-in?
Edit: incoming patch!
Edit: incoming patch!
indigo-cyclops
Member
Same here, GTX 670 here.
Yes there is
Go to: My Documents\My Games\Far Cry 3 and then open the file GamerProfile.xml with any text-editor. Now add the following after </CustomQuality>
Substitute id="medium" /> with whatever you have the Post Processing setting set to and then make the file write-protected. For a example of how the file can look, look at my screenshot above.
Brilliant, will try it now. I actually only want to disable 'motion blur', I'm okay with depth of field and FXAA (which I have set to '2' in the game, if that's the same thing). Would something like this work?
Skyfireblaze
Member
Yeah sure here you go!
Code:<RenderProfile MSAALevel="0" AlphaToCoverage="2" SSAOLevel="4" SDSM="0" ResolutionX="1920" ResolutionY="1080" Quality="custom" QualityEditor="editor_ps3" Fullscreen="0" Borderless="1" UseD3D11="1" D3D11MultithreadedRendering="0" WidescreenLetterbox="0" UseWidescreenFOV="1" FOVScaleFactor="1.365" EnableSubResolution="0" SubResolutionX="960" SubResolutionY="540" VSync="0" RefreshRate="0" DisableMip0Loading="0" GPUMaxBufferedFrames="1" ShowFPS="0" Brightness="1" Contrast="1" GammaRamp="1" AllowAsynchShaderLoading="1"> <CustomQuality> <quality ResolutionX="1280" ResolutionY="720" EnvironmentQuality="high" AntiPortalQuality="default" PortalQuality="medium" PostFxQuality="medium" TextureQuality="high" TextureResolutionQuality="high" WaterQuality="veryhigh" DepthPassQuality="high" VegetationQuality="veryhigh" TerrainQuality="high" GeometryQuality="high" AmbientQuality="high" DeferredAmbientQuality="high" ShadowQuality="high" EditorQuality="" Hdr="1" HdrFP32="0" ReflectionHdr="1" EnableVertexBinding="1" id="custom" /> </CustomQuality> <Post> <quality GameDepthOfField="1" DepthDownsample="1" CinematicDepthOfField="1" MotionBlur="1" SSAO="1" FXAALevel="0" CloudShadows="1" SSAOMaxDistance="100" id="medium" /> </Post> </RenderProfile> [/quote]
Yeah that should work
PjotrStroganov
Member
I generally get okay framerates with my AMD955BE and HD5850 but I get extremely low framerate when climbing a tower and watching the ocean/hills in the distance. Anyone have any idea to improve performance? Are there some draw distance or lod settings I can edit to fix this?
Thennn I'm gonn say its probably not working. I barely get 30fps at 1080p with 4xSGSSAA with a GTX 670.
Yeah sure here you go!
Yeah that should work
Hm, doesn't work. This happens:
I set GamerProfile.xml to read-only, as instructed. Any other suggestions?
Hm, doesn't work. This happens:
I set GamerProfile.xml to read-only, as instructed. Any other suggestions?
Your PC is possesed, burn it.
was trying Sethos' settings ... (in hope I could get 120 Hz + some SGSSAA)
just the config gave me 120+ fps
but adding SweetFX = game instantly closes after launching
no additional software whatsoever loaded, basically bare Windows 7 right now... no browser open no GPU overclocking software nothing .... just Uplay & MSE in the background
disabling Uplay overlay doesn't help either
you guys use the latest version from guru3D right?
I'm gonna try InjectSMAA now
just the config gave me 120+ fps
but adding SweetFX = game instantly closes after launching
no additional software whatsoever loaded, basically bare Windows 7 right now... no browser open no GPU overclocking software nothing .... just Uplay & MSE in the background
disabling Uplay overlay doesn't help either
you guys use the latest version from guru3D right?
I'm gonna try InjectSMAA now
My PC is working just fine, thank you.
Getting about 45 fps on average (never under 35, as high as 60) on my 2600k + 570GTX @ 1920x1080 with everything on Max except shadows (High) and AA on '2'.memecomplex
Member
I'm on a 690, but yeah it's possible that it's not working.
was trying Sethos' settings ... (in hope I could get 120 Hz + some SGSSAA)
just the config gave me 120+ fps
but adding SweetFX = game instantly closes after launching
no additional software whatsoever loaded, basically bare Windows 7 right now... no browser open no GPU overclocking software nothing .... just Uplay & MSE in the background
disabling Uplay overlay doesn't help either
you guys use the latest version from guru3D right?
I'm gonna try InjectSMAA now
The injectors seem to work for some, not for others. I just plonked it all in the 'Bin' folder, tweaked the SweetFX_settings.txt by only adding Lumasharpen and SMAA. Even have FRAPS, Bandicam, Precision X and all that running the background no problem.
Only thing I can say is, make sure you've set it to DX9 and saved those settings. Install SweetFX, start up the game in hope that it works and then do all the GamerProfile afterwards. Could be some residual DX11 setting or something ... Honestly it's puzzling.
Turn off Vsync momentarily to see if you get a big framerate hit.
Are you guys that can't get SMAA to work playing the Steam version?
got the same issue with InjectSMAA, which I've used in plenty of other games without issues
weird
and yeah had to first start the game in DX11, then set it to DX9, restart the game, exit again, then copy your DX9 config ... but all that was without injectors
I'm going to try some different combinations/things I guess, but I can't find anyone on google with a suggestion on what might be the issue here
edit:got the game from GMG so just basic Uplay, no other software even in the task manager right now
Skyfireblaze
Member
Hm, doesn't work. This happens:
I set GamerProfile.xml to read-only, as instructed. Any other suggestions?
Whoa that's odd o.o Does that also happen when you add all the other commands in the "Post" area? :/
I admit I laughed way harder than I should have
indigo-cyclops
Member
Pretty these bits are making everything disappear for me, other than the skybox and some random geometry...
noomi
Member
have you tried 0x004010C5 , someone mentioned that earlier.
indigo-cyclops
Member
I will, thanks!
I've used both, played the game yesterday and today with it in online mode. Maybe the Steam version of Uplay which is slightly different, doesn't do a file consistency check or handles the injector .dll differently.
noomi
Member
please report back with results! and perhaps a screen or two! If you could grab a screen with everything set to low and AA forced with inspector I would really appreciate it!
Try turning PostFX to medium, happens to me as well with it on anything higher than medium on a 7970.
JRW
Member
Yea the current OC is with stock intel cooler, stock voltages and HT disabled (runs a little to warm with HT enabled), also for whatever reason any game benchmarks Ive run without HT are 2-3 fps faster vs enabling it.
I've never felt the need to OC any further but now I'm curious if it might be worth it for FC3 lol.
I just need a little more power from somewhere to achieve a solid 60fps, it's close now but not sure if its more of a GPU or CPU issue, played for a couple hours last-night and lowest I saw was 49fps.
Ill need to buy a better CPU cooler first, right now it's reaching 78C under load but the OC has been rock stable since 2010.
Don't work for me either, what driver version?
indigo-cyclops
Member
Unfortunately it didn't even work for me. So I'll have to wait and see what comes down the line regarding inspector.
JRW
Member
I finally settled on a nice configuration with a nice balance between performance and IQ while still keeping my GPU usage/fan from going crazy.
Feels good, now I can enjoy the game even more!
Same here I spent a few days tweaking settings and finally found a configuration that works well.
My GTX 480 reaches 92C with FC3 which is just under the batshit insane Fan RPM trigger, I think 95C is when it starts sounding like a hair dryer is on inside the case lol.
Luckily it hasn't reached that high ever since I replaced the stock gpu thermal grease with Arctic silver 5.
What an intelligent question.
Subtle. =P
noomi
Member
Just to be certain, you are running the dx9 executable for this correct? it won't work with dx11.
The AA is really a pain in the ass in FC3 :/
Peterthumpa
Member
I guess it boils down to enabling the in-game FXAA, depth of field, motion blur and GI as you go up. Nothing else changes IMO.
Wanted to do a quick and dirty comparison between DirectX 9 with the SMAA / Sharpen of SweetFX / Game's FXAA and DirectX 11 vanilla with HDAO but still FXAA. Just had to see the difference for myself but might as well share with the Gaffies.
1) DirectX 9 / DirectX 11
2) DirectX 9 / DirectX 11
3) DirectX 9 / DirectX 11
Honestly, I can't see much that speaks for DirectX 11 with the added blur due to lack of sharpen, lighting is either the same or in my opinion, worse in some cases ( See left red roof in first picture ). Only plus is HDAO looks more natural.
1) DirectX 9 / DirectX 11
2) DirectX 9 / DirectX 11
3) DirectX 9 / DirectX 11
Honestly, I can't see much that speaks for DirectX 11 with the added blur due to lack of sharpen, lighting is either the same or in my opinion, worse in some cases ( See left red roof in first picture ). Only plus is HDAO looks more natural.
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memecomplex
Member
Probably the reason why I was getting such great frame rates!
Thank you. Here's my results:
DX11:
DX9:
So no ~20 fps improvement for me
Edit:
After running around in the jungle my DX9 fps seems more stable now than with my old settings. It's staying at about 65fps all the time now and I got dips down to 50 before in this same area.