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FF:CC DS - No online support
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LittleTokyo
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ethelred said:
Agreed completely.
I personally won't be surprised if and when they pull online from DQIX. It's pretty obvious the DS has piss poor online capabilities, and that has been reiforced repeatedly... first CoM and FF:CC, but also the shitty interface for other online games. Thinking back, the only games I can even consider to be of any quality online are Mario Kart and Animal Crossing, both of which could have been 10x better still. Metroid Prime Hunters was an absolute nightmare, and not because the unbalanced weapons and hunters, but because actually connecting to your friends and completing a 5-minute game took a miracle.
And although I didn't follow the development of Portrait of Ruin, the lack of an online co-op or even local co-op main quest is disturbing.
Again, this isn't even referring to Nintendo's backwards setup of friends codes, lack of online modes and options, etc. Just to the fact that connecting four people to the NWFC for online play is nye impossible.
Lazy vs Crazy
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Maybe the single player will be really good?
Well, I was looking forward to this because SE has said they want to really improve the singleplayer experience over the GC CC, so this doesn't really change much for me. It kinda sucks that there is no WiFi, but I doubt I would've played the multi all that much anyways. How good the SP turns out will just determine whether I get it right away or wait a bit until it's cheaper.
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This sucks. Would never buy this offline. I hate that the online with DS is so mediocre.
AndoCalrissian
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While I wanted online for the title, I don't really mind that it's not. I know enough people with DS to get two or three full groups of adventurers together. If they did put online in, but didn't put voice chat, that would be pretty silly anyway.
I'm hoping the Wii version has both online and voice chat (wireless headset, Nintendo!), but again, I'm ok as long as it doesn't require 4 additional systems to play.
I do enjoy reading the opinions of the all the "Squeenix + DS = Love" haters that these threads attract. I personally can't wait for DQIX, FF:CC:ROF, FFT:A2, Heroes of Mana, Chocobo, FFXII:RW and more!
I'm hoping the Wii version has both online and voice chat (wireless headset, Nintendo!), but again, I'm ok as long as it doesn't require 4 additional systems to play.
I do enjoy reading the opinions of the all the "Squeenix + DS = Love" haters that these threads attract. I personally can't wait for DQIX, FF:CC:ROF, FFT:A2, Heroes of Mana, Chocobo, FFXII:RW and more!
AndoCalrissian
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Is DQIX confirmed to be online, rather than just local?billysea said:
Gaia Theory
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The excuse about wanting players to see each other's faces is downright absurd.
This game should have been built from the ground up to use the WIFI connection. Although we can still hope that Crystal Bearers for Wii takes the torch in hand for WIFI play, and perhaps some !connectivity! (dreaded word for some) between it and the DS version.
I haven't give up all hope for Ring of Fates, but the lack of WIFI is infuriating. Hopefully there is a solid single player experience this time around.
This game should have been built from the ground up to use the WIFI connection. Although we can still hope that Crystal Bearers for Wii takes the torch in hand for WIFI play, and perhaps some !connectivity! (dreaded word for some) between it and the DS version.
I haven't give up all hope for Ring of Fates, but the lack of WIFI is infuriating. Hopefully there is a solid single player experience this time around.
No online support? Screw that, guess i will just get DQ9.
Seems stupid that they would do that without considering that in the US market, the majority of people who wil buy FF:CC will not be kids who can find other kids to play with, they will be lonely 20-30 year old single male gamers. No online play might take off in Japan but it wouldn't here.
Seems stupid that they would do that without considering that in the US market, the majority of people who wil buy FF:CC will not be kids who can find other kids to play with, they will be lonely 20-30 year old single male gamers. No online play might take off in Japan but it wouldn't here.
krypt0nian
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GOD DAMN IT.
And I am sooo tired of the fools that try and justify this nonsense by saying they are putting more time into the single player. You can have both. Good devs do it all the time.
And I am sooo tired of the fools that try and justify this nonsense by saying they are putting more time into the single player. You can have both. Good devs do it all the time.
Well, the more important part for me would be local coop (again assuming I need to buy two copies -_-). I already have CoM for that, though, which is very nice for that purpose. Hopefully the gameplay for FFCC would be better, though. That'd be a nice bonus. I might still get FFCC, it just depends on whether DQ9 renders it irrelevant or not, and how it interacts with FFCC Wii.
Well, we don't know almost anything about the game and you are crying about the fact that there will be no Wi-Fi option?
From what I've read about it, it's much more single-player focused with a feeling a lot more different than the GC one, which was a "pure" dungeon crawler. I can see no crystal field (no miasma?), and the HP/MP introduction which most probably means levelup for the characters, feature lacking in the GC one.
That's a huge of a difference in gameplay IMHO, and it could justify the lack of Wi-Fi option, especially if it's much more story-based from what I've read so far.
Still +1 sales for me
From what I've read about it, it's much more single-player focused with a feeling a lot more different than the GC one, which was a "pure" dungeon crawler. I can see no crystal field (no miasma?), and the HP/MP introduction which most probably means levelup for the characters, feature lacking in the GC one.
That's a huge of a difference in gameplay IMHO, and it could justify the lack of Wi-Fi option, especially if it's much more story-based from what I've read so far.
Still +1 sales for me
Grampasso said:Well, we don't know almost anything about the game and you are crying about the fact that there will be no Wi-Fi option?
From what I've read about it, it's much more single-player focused with a feeling a lot more different than the GC one, which was a "pure" dungeon crawler. I can see no crystal field (no miasma?), and the HP/MP introduction which most probably means levelup for the characters, feature lacking in the GC one.
That's a huge of a difference in gameplay IMHO, and it could justify the lack of Wi-Fi option, especially if it's much more story-based from what I've read so far.
Still +1 sales for me
If the DS was overloaded with quality multiplayer (online) RPGs maybe I wouldn't mind, but it's NOT.
Again, wtf Square.
Like I said, maybe if I were still in middle school going on long bus trips with my dorky buddies, this would be great. Hell, if I were in high school or back in college I could probably find people. This sucks ass though otherwise. No sale.
Smash Brothers for Wii had better have at least 2 player online, or no sale there either. I'm not in the position to go around gathering my fellow nerds from around my dorm anymore.
Smash Brothers for Wii had better have at least 2 player online, or no sale there either. I'm not in the position to go around gathering my fellow nerds from around my dorm anymore.
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but IGN's preview of the game talks about mulitplayer:
http://ds.ign.com/articles/751/751319p1.html
http://ds.ign.com/articles/751/751319p1.html
From Sporks' hands-on playtest of CC DS:
Screw everyone saying that no online multi automatically dooms this game to suck. It's sounding pretty great -- voice acting for cutscenes, a greater emphasis on story, a fleshed out single-player mode, and classes to add greater depth to the gameplay.
Yes, it's not what I originally wanted, and I'm disappointed that it's not what I originally wanted -- a great online coop RPG. But if Square Enix can still make a great single-player RPG (and that's what this is sounding like to me), then that's fine.
Screw everyone saying that no online multi automatically dooms this game to suck. It's sounding pretty great -- voice acting for cutscenes, a greater emphasis on story, a fleshed out single-player mode, and classes to add greater depth to the gameplay.
Yes, it's not what I originally wanted, and I'm disappointed that it's not what I originally wanted -- a great online coop RPG. But if Square Enix can still make a great single-player RPG (and that's what this is sounding like to me), then that's fine.
I'd be more pissed and disappointed if DQIX didn't (seemingly) make FFCC completely irrelevant in one fell swoop.
I'll be picking up FFCC regardless, but assuming DQIX turns out how I expect it will, I'll be able to enjoy FFCC just for its single player.
I'll be picking up FFCC regardless, but assuming DQIX turns out how I expect it will, I'll be able to enjoy FFCC just for its single player.
Pureauthor
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ethelred said:
Exactly. If there's a single-player mode worth caring about, then it's fine.
HAL_Laboratory
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Well there's always the possibility of FF:CC The Crystal Bearers for Wii being online, and if there's connectivity like the last one...
I'm pretty out of the loop when it comes to DS online multiplayer, but uh, are there any good games that use it? It is actually used well? Is there voice chat on the DS (that wouldn't sound terrible coming from the speakers?) I personally can't imagine being in public and screaming at my DS for someone to cast spells and calling them names. Even the DQ9 thing, when they said multiplayer, I figured they meant 4 friends playing relatively close to each other in the same room. Even then, you had 4 people doing their own thing.
I'm not dissing the DS, just asking.
I'm not dissing the DS, just asking.
LittleTokyo said:
Whaaa?
Metroid Prime Hunters may be the only DS game with a good online interface. Your friend list notifies you of who is online and allows you to join groups/lobbies/whatever of friends who are playing. You can chat between games (with audio chat, no less). You can add strangers to your "rival" list when playing, even without a friend code.
The only problem with MPH is that the game isn't very fun.
QFT. If you are like most older gamers, you need online for multiplayer. End of story.Y2Kevbug11 said:I don't even have nerds in my dorm. Nobody will play with me.
I have no friends who are hardcore, and only one who owns a DS - she received it as a gift with Mario Kart, which barely gets played.
underfooter
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I don't mind so much. Seems like DQ9 will have the online multiplayer locked down. FF:CC is a game I'll enjoy in the company of my little brother.
Chris Remo
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It's insane to say the DS is somehow incapable of doing online for something like FF:CC. If a system can handle fast-paced online games like Metroid Prime Hunters, Mario Kart DS, and Tony Hawk's American Sk8land, the former two of which require FAR more time-sensitive and synchronized information transfer than a slow-paced game like an RPG, it would not have any technical barriers to Crystal Chronicles. The big problems with DS online have been interface, the stupid friends code system, and various seemingly obvious developer oversights. There is absolutely nothing preventing a studio from writing good netcode that would allow four people to walk around on a map and hit enemies with swords.
AndoCalrissian
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I really hope the bucket is in the Wii version... I actually really enjoyed that game mechanic. DQIX actually is more interesting to me now than FF:CC:ROF, but I'll get and play both I imagine.