Panic_Attack
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I would hope it was the best 3D FF7 to date when it was released, seeing as it was the only one.JayDubya said:
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FFVII development background (long read)
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Panic_Attack said:
Nurrrrrrrr.
^_^
I meant that it's probably better than FFIX and FFX (which were both pretty darn good), and definitely better than that other unmentioned number (ugh). I can't speak for FFXII, but I have high hopes. And I can't say FF7's the best given how good FFIV and VI are.
That's essentially what happened IMO. The undertone theme similarities between FFVII and The Spirits Within are blaringly obvious.JayDubya said:
As far as the FFVII remake goes.. I seriously hope that if indeed Nomura is shoved into the director seat by Kitase that we don't get overblown action scenes that are not required there ala FFVII: AC.
I've been reading this "FF7 is not Ico therefore is sucks" argument a lot lately it seems. Can't we just agree that they are two totally different type of games which both have their own merits? I really enjoyed the characters and storytelling in FF7 and FF10 and I enjoyed the characters and storytelling in Ico too. There's nothing wrong with a lengthy narrative and cutscenes. In both FF7 and FF10 I enjoyed learning about the characters and wanted to see what happened to them...good stuff!
Would a game like Ico have even been possible on the PS1? Are there any like it? Anyways I'm going off topic...the original article posted here is a great read.
Would a game like Ico have even been possible on the PS1? Are there any like it? Anyways I'm going off topic...the original article posted here is a great read.
Chris Remo
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It was in development on PS1. I'm pretty sure it changed over simply because of time issues, not because it wouldn't have been technically possible.aceface said:
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
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Yeah, they were planning a SNES FFVII back in '94 which got shelved in favor of Chrono Trigger; I've seen it mentioned in interviews and staff comments before. This is the first I've heard of the 64DD version though.
PhlegmMaster
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JayDubya said:
MomoPufflet
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They could remake FFVII for Wii and call it FFWII guysamirite??
HomerSimpson-Man
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JayDubya said:
Maybe I can finally beat that high, medium, low fighting arcade machine.
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Heh, never. I swear that goddamned thing cheats. I don't see HOW given that the mechanic is just Paper / Rock / Scissors. I only beat Afro man once, and the guy after that (I think it was a robot?) was completely impossible. It was only a lousy 10 gp even for beating Afro man.
It could be pattern recognition, but I think it's probably just that the game cheats.
HomerSimpson-Man
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JayDubya said:
True. But a more ramped advanced fistacuffs fighting game would certainly be cool than just the simple cheating bastard of a machine again.
Oh, and having a card mini-game like Triple Triad would rock.
Greenpanda
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JayDubya said:
That would be Shadow, not Edge.
Greenpanda said:
O_O
Inexcusable late night brain fart.
Edit: At least I remembered that the thief (TREASURE HUNTER!) is named Zidane, right? And clearly that woman there is Reina, his love interest. And you junction materia to them to help them move about the sphere grid so you can give the rat's tail to Bahamut, but you find out that the Final Summoning is actually Cecil's father KluYa and you have to use it in Pandemonium against the Four Fiends!
OtwoloBotawa
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What I really liked about the Final Fantasy VII scenario was that it's kind of rundown and rusty.
The world was brown and grey and had a junkyard feeling.
Something that all the awful spinoff products lack.
Advent Children for example looks way too sterile and cleaned up.
The world was brown and grey and had a junkyard feeling.
Something that all the awful spinoff products lack.
Advent Children for example looks way too sterile and cleaned up.
The Jason
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That was a very interesting read. I'm currently playing FFVII for the first time in years and its awesome. I really hope they remake it, shit I'll even be satisfied if they just re-release it for the ps2/psp with cleaned it up textures, hi res models, and minor gameplay tweaks. If they're not remaking it because they don't want to mess it up, then just clean it up and re-release it on ps2/psp.
Powerslave
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total agree.OtwoloBotawa said:
FF7 is the best FF.
OtwoloBotawa
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I prefer FFVI and FFXII though.Powerslave said:
Powerslave
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grrr
Eteric Rice
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Enk said:
I always kinda wondered how that one would've turned out. Still loved FFVII though.
We're probably going to find out in about a year or so. FFIV was announced, and I doubt they're going to stop there.
AquaticSquirrel
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Bu..Bu GAF told me that Sakaguchi had no involvement in FF7 and just sat around in his office and every so often walked in to the team and said little things like "make his hair more spikey" and then left for a few more months!
Haters can STFU now please.
Haters can STFU now please.
Ryujin said:
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He put together the team and wrote a rough plot outline. Sakaguchi obviously had a lot of insight in the development process, but I mean, apparently it was Kitase who came up with the concretization of the Lifestream. And Kitase and Nomura introduced Tifa and came up with Aeris' death.
I think a lot of the time, people are just overreacting at the unfair praise that gets heaped on Sakaguchi when it's really Kitase, Nojima, Nomura and Naora who've made modern FF what it is.
AquaticSquirrel
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Ceb said:
I'm not dissagreeing with that, but at the same time there is alot of unfair hate on Sakaguchi and some people even try to claim that he had no hand in FF7 at all. Why I'm not sure exactly...maybe because he left Square or something? Or maybe because they think that the other important people in the development need more credit, I don't know exactly, but Sakaguchi was certainly a central figure to the games development and I'm sure he worked closely with the team, so it's unfair to try to take credit away from him also.
That was really the whole point of my comment.
Powerslave
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It may be a total coincidence to some of you, but ever since Sakaguchi left Squaresoft, Final Fantasy started to suck ass.
SolidSnakex
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Powerslave said:
No they haven't. And stop giving Sakaguchi so much credit.
Eteric Rice
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SolidSnakex said:
Yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgZXiHfNt0M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohp9KQ7KcLE&mode=related&search= (better translation)
<3
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
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not just "conceptualized", he actually wrote the event script code for it
Eteric Rice
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Ceb said:
That for a long time, Final Fantasy hasn't really had any truely "heart felt" moments. Nothing to make you tear up, ya know? At least, that's my opinion.
All I see these days, in art and in everything, is a game trying to be Star Wars (when I first played XII, that's what I saw) instead of a true Fantasy. I wish they would go back to something unique with loveable characters and an interesting world.
We need more RPGs like VI, imo.
Maybe they've just lost their touch? I dunno. :|
And before anyone says it, I'm not saying VII is bad. Just that more modern games have lost their touch.
Again, it's opinion and nothing more.
Eteric Rice
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Ceb said:That's awesome.
Wow, I'm sorry, but you're just complete and categorically WRONG on this. I could list dozens of high-quality moments in each FF following FFVI.
I can't.
I just can't get into the newer ones for some reason. :\
AquaticSquirrel
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Eh...hmmm I've said my piece and gotten my point accross pretty well and It's something I feel needed to be said. However I see where this thread is going so I'm out.
It was a cool interview though, I like getting a kind of "behind the scenes" look at development, you know the kind of stuff people never talk about.
It was a cool interview though, I like getting a kind of "behind the scenes" look at development, you know the kind of stuff people never talk about.
AdmiralViscen
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Awesome article.
Where's the link?
edit: wait, Himuro?? :lol This is ancient.
Where's the link?
edit: wait, Himuro?? :lol This is ancient.
DarknessTear
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OMFG I hated Zozo!
Now I know who is responsible!
Now I know who is responsible!
brandonh83
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:lol :lol :lol
Eteric Rice
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Grivenger said:
The different is that II and VI didn't try to "look" like Star Wars. VI had castles, small villages, etc. The old midieval (sort of) style overpowered the high-tech style. In XII that's not the case. It seems to be the same deal with XIII, also.
*shrugs* I like my old school castles, etc.
