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Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (TGS Trailer)
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AceBandage said:
Oh, I didn't come in here to stir shit up. I just came in here to answer a couple of questions and to post my own thoughts (and concerns) on the game. Posting anything less than euphoric glee is not the same thing as trolling or shit stirring, I'm afraid. And as far as being countered goes? I'm always more than willing to take on all comers. No worries!
AceBandage said:
Well, we'll see! I certainly hope I'm wrong, because I'd rather have more good games than fewer good games. But as much as I love the visuals and as much as I would like to have a great motion-controlled action adventure game, I don't have particularly high hopes for this one.
batbeg said:
Yeah, there was that concerning comment, but it's something he's said a number of other times, as well. The overall emphasis that comes out of him during all the interviews he's given just worry me as to the priorities with the game.
AzureNightmare
Banned
That trailer made me grin from ear to ear. Holy fuck this game is going to be fucking awesome!
Gamer @ Heart
Member
Amazing trailer. Loved the end. Hopefully it'll have a great sense of humor.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
:lol I just noticed the guy in the suit was humming the FF main theme.
Regulus Tera said:
Yeah I got that too.
Does anyone else think the first half trailer's music seems similar to the Coliseum music from FFVI?
Johnny C Bad Remix
josh_tarrant
Neo Member
I am not a final fantasy fan - never played any of the numbered games. But this really has my interest. The wii is missing big action games.
Is it just me or does the trailer have a major eragon vibe.
Is it just me or does the trailer have a major eragon vibe.
Fimbulvetr
Member
....
All of that stuff, and seeing a good looking trailer for once, and the release date change, and freaking Layle.
I can't absorb all of that awesome at once, I just can't.
All of that stuff, and seeing a good looking trailer for once, and the release date change, and freaking Layle.
I can't absorb all of that awesome at once, I just can't.
Conrad Link
Member
I say this every trailer, but honestly the game just keeps looking better and better the more I see of it. 
Everything about it just looks like a fun time, like you can't help but smile while watching the trailers. I love the Crystal Chronicles series.
<3 Belle.
Everything about it just looks like a fun time, like you can't help but smile while watching the trailers. I love the Crystal Chronicles series.
<3 Belle.
TheKingsCrown
Banned
this game looks awesome. buying this, darkside chronicles, and new super mario bros. wii in U.S. this year. Oh and Silent Hill. Ahhhhh too many games.
darkhunger
Member
LOL. You are calling Kazuhiko Aoki a talented game designer because of his work directing FFCC, and then go on to diss Code Age Commanders's gameplay when Aoki was the LEAD GAME DESIGNER of that game.ethelred said:
I guess you don't know what a game director does.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
yes.
YES.
this looks awesome. the last FINAL FANTASY i enjoyed was 9, and i'm getting that sort of vibe from CRYSTAL BEARERS. again, i'm all about any rpg that isn't stuck up its own ass and doesn't take itself so deathly serious. i have high hopes for this one.
YES.
this looks awesome. the last FINAL FANTASY i enjoyed was 9, and i'm getting that sort of vibe from CRYSTAL BEARERS. again, i'm all about any rpg that isn't stuck up its own ass and doesn't take itself so deathly serious. i have high hopes for this one.
7Th said:
Oh, who's writing? Watanabe and Toriyama? That's not much better! As far as Nomura, I think most people would look at the main character designs and say he's involved enough, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.
darkhunger said:
I said Aoki was "pretty good," which I don't think is some sort of high praise. That said, I wasn't aware that he was the lead game designer on Code Age Commanders, which had really bad gameplay regardless of who designed it. My familiarity with its staff mostly centered around the fact that Itahana directed it, just as Itahana is directing Crystal Bearers.
darkhunger said:
I view the director as the person whose job it is to determine the overall feel and priority set of the game -- what things are most important and should be most heavily emphasized from a project perspective, how the different elements of the game (such as the narrative, music, art, and gameplay) come together, and that sort of thing. I also view the director as the person who makes most high level determinations as to how the game should play while the finer elements of designing out the specific execution of that are typically handled on a lower level. And lastly, the director is the person ultimately and finally responsible for the overall quality of the project.
Do you find this definition egregiously wrong in some sense? If so, please educate me.
I move we STFU about the possible implications of staff choices, other games on different platforms, other games on similar platforms, or anything else that isn't "OMG TRAILUR LOOX PURTY!!!"
Because I like the trailer. I could not possibly care less about these issues at this precise moment in time. Trailer. Now. Good.
Right?
Oh gawd I want to play this so bad.
Because I like the trailer. I could not possibly care less about these issues at this precise moment in time. Trailer. Now. Good.
Right?
Oh gawd I want to play this so bad.
ITT: ethelred will not buy a game
That trailer just cemented my resolve to purchase this game even more than before.
So much variety and humor and great music in one space, how could I not look forward to it? Controls really doesn't look bad either, still, the fun in this game will probably come more from testing interactions in the game world rather than fluid control.
That trailer just cemented my resolve to purchase this game even more than before.
So much variety and humor and great music in one space, how could I not look forward to it? Controls really doesn't look bad either, still, the fun in this game will probably come more from testing interactions in the game world rather than fluid control.
if the controls are good this will be my GOTY, easily
darkhunger
Member
Right, so basically you judge CB basically by what its director did in his very first game direction project. Yet in another post you seem to make a point about who FFXIII's gameplay designers are and how you have faith in them. You don't see the hypocrisy in that?ethelred said:
And yeah, you seem to have a good idea of what a game director does, so why criticize one aspect of a game (which is designed by a guy you praised) and pretend that any other game directed by the director would suck?
In another words, you have no idea what you're talking about.
CTLance said:
freddy said:
Awww, so you guys are back to "waaaaah people are posting mean things about the game that everyone should post nothing but 'i'm cumming!!!' over." Okay.
darkhunger said:
No, I haven't judged Crystal Bearers. I haven't played Crystal Bearers. I've expressed concerns about it for a number of reasons, and the prior experience of the director was only one of them, but I guess it helps you guys to fixate on that one to the exclusion of all else so I'm perfectly okay with dropping that point if it'll help you move it along. As far as FF13 goes, again, I only mentioned that because some other folks were talking about it in the context of a comparison to Crystal Bearers, but if you crave clarity here, then note that I also liked a number of Motomu Toriyama's directorial efforts.
TheKingsCrown
Banned
Ethelred, IMHO the Final Fantasy games are in need of a serious refresh. Your posts appear to indicate, from past experience viewing them, that you are more of a traditionalist than someone who is always interested in something new with regards to RPGs (correctly me if i'm 100% wrong).
This game looks better than FF8, FF9, and FF10 to me. I never played FF12 myself, but I think I left my desire to play traditional RPGs at the door after I played FF8 and after I played WoW. They're generally boring and uninspired. So this game excites me from a gameplay standpoint. Story, etc etc., well we'll see.
This game looks better than FF8, FF9, and FF10 to me. I never played FF12 myself, but I think I left my desire to play traditional RPGs at the door after I played FF8 and after I played WoW. They're generally boring and uninspired. So this game excites me from a gameplay standpoint. Story, etc etc., well we'll see.
freddy said:
Oh, I'm quite certain I haven't been rambling -- I've stated my points rather clearly, concisely, and in an organized fashion. Work on your literacy some? And, oh, I'm so wounded by the accusation, but I do know what I'm talking about... even if I don't know everything, and am perfectly willing to admit when I've erred. I was mistaken in only two things: first, as to who was writing FF13 (which is obviously not central to this game); and second, I was unaware of one person who worked on a different game. None of the things I've said about the staff of Crystal Bearers have been incorrect, and none of the things I've said about how the Crystal Bearers team is not the FF9 team have been incorrect.
Saint10118
Member
Wow. Someone has a rational, critical, and informed opinion and people flip out because it's not filled with blind love? I'm just going to assume that most here are getting their feelings hurt over Etherled's snark, which I didn't find present in his original post whatsoever. I for one like to be informed about the creative staff behind games and am also concerned that the gameplay will highly repetitive and shallow based on the videos shown to date.
The issue is that providing a refresh doesn't have to mean making gameplay shallow as a trade-off for accessibility, which hopefully won't be the case but very little in the videos shown to date do much to suggest otherwise.
TheKingsCrown said:
The issue is that providing a refresh doesn't have to mean making gameplay shallow as a trade-off for accessibility, which hopefully won't be the case but very little in the videos shown to date do much to suggest otherwise.
Wow, the vocal version of the music used on the website was really nice, too bad it gets around 10 seconds in the trailer.
Can't say much about the gameplay as no one's ever got a change to try it out yet.
But the game's certainly got character and I hope it turns out to be a solid game in the end.
Can't say much about the gameplay as no one's ever got a change to try it out yet.
But the game's certainly got character and I hope it turns out to be a solid game in the end.
Look there's no need to get all defensive. The game may very well turn out bad and you will be vindicated.ethelred said:
I'll decide if it was good enough when I'm done playing through it. After all, that's the best way to judge whether a game is fun or not. Sometimes even games with faults can be fun. I'm loving, what I see so far. It sucks that you have reservations though. I hope it doesn't dampen your enjoyment when you play it.
Ethelred is raising some good points and he wasn't even being particular aggressive about it (not anymore than he usually is anyway). I appreciate his input.
I'm one of the GAF members who's most hyped about this game and I certainly did my share of posting updates and opinions on it. However, as good as it looks for some of us, it still hasn't proven to be a certain hit. Of course it will only do so to each of us when we actually get to play it. I actually share some of his concerns but to be honest, I'm glad there are people who focus on the positives, on the negatives, and then there are those who focus on both. There's also the fact that different things have different weight to different people, like the development team involved. That's what (should) bring good discussion.
There's no need to be overly defensive and do snarky one sentence posts when you can instead refute (or agree with) the points he brought up. Works much better.
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I'm SO using that wallpaper. Agreed with the Champloo vibe.
Haven't watched the trailer yet, downloading it right now.
I'm one of the GAF members who's most hyped about this game and I certainly did my share of posting updates and opinions on it. However, as good as it looks for some of us, it still hasn't proven to be a certain hit. Of course it will only do so to each of us when we actually get to play it. I actually share some of his concerns but to be honest, I'm glad there are people who focus on the positives, on the negatives, and then there are those who focus on both. There's also the fact that different things have different weight to different people, like the development team involved. That's what (should) bring good discussion.
There's no need to be overly defensive and do snarky one sentence posts when you can instead refute (or agree with) the points he brought up. Works much better.
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I'm SO using that wallpaper. Agreed with the Champloo vibe.
Haven't watched the trailer yet, downloading it right now.
kenji said:
Well, Crushed has already said that no one cares about this stuff, so it's pretty clear that you don't actually care. Besides, freddy might flip out again if the thread devolves into boring lectures about anything other than how great the game looks.
darkhunger said:
Yeah, that was said about the original game, too, and it was incorrect. But if I'm wrong, then name 'em. I already said that Crystal Chronicles had a number of artists transition over from FF9, and I fully expect that those artists and graphic team members have moved from Crystal Chronicles over to Crystal Bearers -- which is probably why the game looks so great. But as I said, none of the FF9 gameplay/battle designers, nor the game's director, nor the composer, nor the art director -- all of which I would consider to be pretty key positions -- worked on Crystal Chronicles. And nothing has been stated about them working on Crystal Bearers, either.
darkhunger
Member
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Easy_D said:
eh? i think plenty of the media outlets have played it. just google "crystal bearers preview" and you'll get one from ign and several others. snippets:
and this part is totally bad ass
darkhunger said:
he's also ethelred, who's notorious for presenting moving goalposts and nitpicking logic that essentially troll Wii related JRPG threads (though he may troll other JRPG threads as well, i'm not certain, i tend to hang around threads that have to do with the platforms i'll buy for). it's blatant trolling at worst, and misguided pretentious pseudo-intellectualism at best.schuelma said:
so i won't condemn it, but i certainly won't condone it,
blue penis style
What I mean is I must suck to have reservations that can prevent you from getting excited for a release. Like you say though I'm sure he's a big boy and can handle that. Sometimes I'm just glad I can try some games out on their own merits though without any background knowledge. Everyone is different though.schuelma said:
darkhunger
Member
Right, so the director is confused about the people working on his team.ethelred said:
Thanks for the thought.:lol