Why are people dismissing the victory fanfare? They've essentially been the same since the beginning, just variations here or there. You could probably say the same thing towards the battle theme music, that they have the same type of compositions but are different enough to call them on their own.
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
FINAL FANTASY XII -- US Demo Preview (1UP)
- Thread starter john tv
- Start date
Zilch said:
And nobody played FFXII too, yet people are comparing its battle system to other games.
Zilch said:
Vagrant Story does that too.
I'm just saying many of the new ideas in FFXII were in square games way before kotor was out (visible enemies, no transition to battle screen, pause during combat to navigate menus).
Dark Age Iron Savior
Banned
Servizio said:
"Tango of Tears" is the best thing they've done with that song.
Hah! What's that from?
Die Squirrel Die
Member
I can't find the videos. When I click on the link in the preview I get a download page with nothing on it.
Edit n/m got to the third page. No videos for this at all.
Edit n/m got to the third page. No videos for this at all.
DarknessTear
Banned
Hi, I'd just like to state that you all suck for saying FFXII copies KotOR. They said in the preview it's similar to KotOR to give you an idea of what it's like, not to play the "omg copy" game.
I don't understand why you guys are taking offense to it. Who cares if it seems to be similar to KotOR? KotOR was a magnificant game, easily better than the last couple of FFs. Any pointers they may, or may not, have taken from the game are welcomed in my opinion.
Fact is it's much more similar to KotOR than Vagrant Story. Both active and wait control systems are used in KotOR, as are FFXII's Gambits (you can selected how the other members of your party fight when not given specific orders). Vagrant Story was more rhythm based in its combat, while KotOR and FFXII are menu based.
Fact is it's much more similar to KotOR than Vagrant Story. Both active and wait control systems are used in KotOR, as are FFXII's Gambits (you can selected how the other members of your party fight when not given specific orders). Vagrant Story was more rhythm based in its combat, while KotOR and FFXII are menu based.
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
Banned
They may have been influenced by Baldur's Gate, etc. I doubt they modeled it on KOTOR specifically since FFXII was well into development and probably had its combat system fixed before that game was released.
brandonh83
Banned
Himuro said:
I've been saying that since 2003. :lol
...
Actually there's nothing funny about it.
I remember matsuno saying something about "this will mainly be a story about dalmasca" or something along those lines...but with the picture of Archadia in the latest scans, I'm not so sure. Maybe it'll only include the three countries (Dalmasca, Archadia, and Rosalia). Personally I'm hoping for a localized setting...it makes the story real.
Edit: Actually, Archadia and Rosalia each rules one continent. So just the three should still be pretty big.
Edit: Actually, Archadia and Rosalia each rules one continent. So just the three should still be pretty big.
Well... I've got a screen that somebody posted here before, that seems to be a major spoiler to the setting of the game, but I don't think I'll link it. After all, I'd hate to have some weak-willed people start kicking themselves for clicking. 
If anybody still really wants it, despite the warning, I'll upload it to ImageShack and send it via PM. Just ask.
Scott said:Well... I've got a screen that somebody posted here before, that seems to be a major spoiler to the setting of the game, but I don't think I'll link it. After all, I'd hate to have some weak-willed people start kicking themselves for clicking.
If anybody still really wants it, despite the warning, I'll upload it to ImageShack and send it via PM. Just ask.
You can't tease like that and not link the image! :lol
So yeah shoot a pm my way please.
cvkpaladin
Member
Yeah, I'll take a PM as well. 
Scott said:Well... I've got a screen that somebody posted here before, that seems to be a major spoiler to the setting of the game, but I don't think I'll link it. After all, I'd hate to have some weak-willed people start kicking themselves for clicking.
If anybody still really wants it, despite the warning, I'll upload it to ImageShack and send it via PM. Just ask.
Is it from the demo? If so, PM me.
captain_amazo
Member
Count me in, i'll take it!
Ah yes, that.
Thanks so much for the offer, but I don't know if I want it that bad at this point.
My general pissed off-ness in that thread was aimed primarily at the fact that it's been 5 years and for no good reason.
Once GAF has some impressions and what have you, I'll make a decision. Thanks again.
Thanks so much for the offer, but I don't know if I want it that bad at this point.
My general pissed off-ness in that thread was aimed primarily at the fact that it's been 5 years and for no good reason.
Once GAF has some impressions and what have you, I'll make a decision. Thanks again.
:\
Fine, here it is: http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/5327/nospoilershere4xj.jpg
I'm just thinking too much about the context of it. I mean, prior to the release of Final Fantasy IX, everybody thought the game was limited to the Mist Continent. It's a huge continent, about 15~ hours of gameplay on it alone, and then suddenly you go through a cave and the world expands... I remember a lot of people, myself included, kind of going "!" It was just a total surprise, and altered the entire worldview of the game.
So, really, it's entirely in the context. If Final Fantasy XII handles the set-up the same way, giving absolutely no hint to this, then 1/3rd or more into the game, suddenly expands... I just think it could, potentially, be pretty impactful, and giving it away prior to release could have ruined that moment for some people. Of course, that was before I knew it was in trailers, so apparently Square Enix isn't really worried about giving it away...
So, yeah, sorry for wasting everybody's time and getting people hyped up for it. I honestly didn't see the E3 2004 trailer, or much footage for this game at all really (I'm actively avoiding it
), so I didn't know it was already revealed. Even then, why aren't people talking about this? It could have some rather huge ramifications for the worldview, and could even alter the worldview of every single game that has ever taken place in Ivalice...
*shrugs* Maybe that type of stuff just means more to me than most, or maybe I'm just looking into this way too much... Likely the latter, I'm sure... :\
Fine, here it is: http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/5327/nospoilershere4xj.jpg
Eh...Diablos said:
I'm just thinking too much about the context of it. I mean, prior to the release of Final Fantasy IX, everybody thought the game was limited to the Mist Continent. It's a huge continent, about 15~ hours of gameplay on it alone, and then suddenly you go through a cave and the world expands... I remember a lot of people, myself included, kind of going "!" It was just a total surprise, and altered the entire worldview of the game.
So, really, it's entirely in the context. If Final Fantasy XII handles the set-up the same way, giving absolutely no hint to this, then 1/3rd or more into the game, suddenly expands... I just think it could, potentially, be pretty impactful, and giving it away prior to release could have ruined that moment for some people. Of course, that was before I knew it was in trailers, so apparently Square Enix isn't really worried about giving it away...
So, yeah, sorry for wasting everybody's time and getting people hyped up for it. I honestly didn't see the E3 2004 trailer, or much footage for this game at all really (I'm actively avoiding it
), so I didn't know it was already revealed. Even then, why aren't people talking about this? It could have some rather huge ramifications for the worldview, and could even alter the worldview of every single game that has ever taken place in Ivalice...*shrugs* Maybe that type of stuff just means more to me than most, or maybe I'm just looking into this way too much... Likely the latter, I'm sure... :\
TheJollyCorner
Member
Diablos said:Scott loves him some Square! And there's nothing wrong with that.
I do too. I don't know WHY anymore
You just need to be reminded WHY.
I know I did until I saw Advent Children- and since then my head has been buzzing with the excitement of what could come from Division 1's FFXIII.
Are you in your early 20's?TheJollyCorner said:You just need to be reminded WHY.
I know I did until I saw Advent Children- and since then my head has been buzzing with the excitement of what could come from Division 1's FFXIII.
Well guess what?
At this point you'll probably get married, have 5 kids, go through four or five different jobs, start balding depeding on your genetics, and actually have a Democratic President in the White House before you play the next single player FF!
THIS IS WHY I HATE SQUARE.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Diablos said:
I'm actually 26, married, no kids, and vote Republican... but I understand your frustration.
Eh, I dunno about that. It sure sounds cool, though.Himuro said:Me and Scott were talking on irc and we think it may be possible that every continent we've been on Ivalice thus far could be floating islands in the sky (atleast based on that pic). It is true that seeing those scenes from the trailers and pics would ruin that..but not much
It'd be so awesome if in FFXII, you not only find this out, but you get to visit the continents from past Ivalice games and see the bloodline of past characters. In fact, in the new FFXII trailer there's a character who looks like Delita!
Pfft, you get the idea.TheJollyCorner said:I'm actually 26, married, no kids, and vote Republican... but I understand your frustration.
hmm.. FFXII == single player FFXI?
Well I guess you play FF for the story, and no chinese gillfarmers camping your mobs would be nice... I dunno though... I still play FFXI.
Altough by the time this is released I may be done with it. (currently a Lv.74 NIN.. I have pretty much seen everything except for sea) but there is that new expansion...
hmm. Is there going to be a standalone demo anywhere (OPM or something?) I kinda want to check it out, but have never really been a DQ fan.
Well I guess you play FF for the story, and no chinese gillfarmers camping your mobs would be nice... I dunno though... I still play FFXI.
Altough by the time this is released I may be done with it. (currently a Lv.74 NIN.. I have pretty much seen everything except for sea) but there is that new expansion...
hmm. Is there going to be a standalone demo anywhere (OPM or something?) I kinda want to check it out, but have never really been a DQ fan.
SolidSnakex
Member
Diablos said:Vaan doesn't look like the type to jack someone's car, sorry.
Which brings me to my next point:
What the FUCK, Square.
He's pretty hot isn't he?
DarknessTear
Banned
Vaan is awesome, look at his PANTS.
http://www.gaming-media.com/_feature/e32004/ff12/vaan-art.jpg
Yeah, that's right. Those pants are fucking awesome. Oh and star fruit is also delicious. I think it's called Carambola or something. But I just call it star fruit.
http://www.gaming-media.com/_feature/e32004/ff12/vaan-art.jpg
Yeah, that's right. Those pants are fucking awesome. Oh and star fruit is also delicious. I think it's called Carambola or something. But I just call it star fruit.
lolzSolidSnakeX said:
They must have been listening to Boy George or something when they sketched him up. I'll leave it at that.
Oh wait.
Maybe Vaan can hang out with all the sissy girls on NEXT. Wouldn't that be an exciting episode?
He's the main character. The Cloud Strife, Squall Leonhart, Zidane Tribal, Tidus (wtf is his last name) of the game. So I wouldn't count on it.Flo_Evans said:
Vaan seems to like to go shopping a lot... why not let the characters change their clothes?
Red Scarlet
Member
Well in 10 you could keep Tidus out of the party most of the time if you wanted.
His last name is..uh..Shot. Like his father Jecht Shot, before him.
And in 9 you could take Zidane out of the party in the last dungeon.
His last name is..uh..Shot. Like his father Jecht Shot, before him.
And in 9 you could take Zidane out of the party in the last dungeon.
Red Scarlet
Member
Yeah. Always was weird to not have him in the party and run around using him. Really hope that is eventually fixed again.
Is your whole party on screen at once? or is it just vaan. And if vaan is not the leader, would the character that is be running around in towns/fields ect?
edit: ahh you can't change equip in the demo?
of course the CGI will all feature his default armour so maybe it will stay the same for consistency... but I always hated RPGs where your characters don't look diffrent with new armour.
edit: ahh you can't change equip in the demo?
of course the CGI will all feature his default armour so maybe it will stay the same for consistency... but I always hated RPGs where your characters don't look diffrent with new armour.
SolidSnakex
Member
A big problem with armor like that in FF's is the FMV sequences. Having your character look a certain way in real time and then you go to FMV and he looks nothing like that because they're only using 1 FMV model isn't going to look all that good.