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Final Fantasy XIII PC |OT| Lightning must not be forgotten

Dice

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This is a pretty game. I should probably find out what the no-HUD button is for screens.



dat moment when a man realizes he can't deny qt girl and hates himself for it



dat moment when lightning and vanille have a moment



dat moment snow is clueless
 

Raitningz

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Lightning.
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And yet your avatar...
I'm speaking from this position that while I enjoy most of it, I think they should just give her a break. I will want to see her again, but hopefully not this generation.

eh, just to be sure, I clarify that it's my opinion that I don't think they should go with a PS4 remaster and I probably stepped over the line labeling you insane, so I apologize for my attitude perfo
 

Raitningz

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It's probably a a long shot, but since XIII and XIII-2 run on the same engine and use the same file structure, I wonder if it would be possible to use models and animations from XIII-2 in XIII. I don't think the file structure changed with the transition from consoles to PC either.
I've seen people mod Fang into XIII-2. I wonder if her model comes with the battle animations inside the XIII-2 file?
 

Cerity

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Would have happily paid more if SE gave this some love and did remaster/definitive version or something. It already looks stunning just downsampled and I just keep thinking what it could have been if they put some more effort into it.
 

Zafir

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This is a pretty game. I should probably find out what the no-HUD button is for screens.
Well, you can get rid of the minimap by pressing back button on the 360 controller even without gedosato.

As for hudless screenshots, you need to assign a keybind to takes hudless screenshot in Gedosato.
I've seen people mod Fang into XIII-2. I wonder if her model comes with the battle animations inside the XIII-2 file?
Man, as someone who really dislikes Serah, I'd totally consider swapping Fang in for her. Maybe I'd like XIII-2 more then.
 

serahsass

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I've seen people mod Fang into XIII-2. I wonder if her model comes with the battle animations inside the XIII-2 file?
I believe the entire XIII party is already on the XIII-2 disc. A save editor was used to swap models. I was able to replace Noel with Snow.
 

BONKERS

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I'm speaking from this position that while I enjoy most of it, I think they should just give her a break. I will want to see her again, but hopefully not this generation.

eh, just to be sure, I clarify that it's my opinion that I don't think they should go with a PS4 remaster and I probably stepped over the line labeling you insane, so I apologize for my attitude perfo
I can't disagree that they shouldn't make any more XIII universe games.
But I do think all 3 games are deserving of better treatment than being left on the PS3. Which is why I am happy enough if we just get good PC versions
 

JasonUresti

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This game doesn't seem nearly as bad as the stories make it out. Looks nice and I like the combat so far.

Admittedly I haven't played through any Final Fantasy games since VII and the last time I played one at all was an hour or so of 9 on PSN, so my evaluation comes from a place of ignorance on what Final Fantasy has been for the last decade and a half.
 

Raitningz

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This game doesn't seem nearly as bad as the stories make it out. Looks nice and I like the combat so far.

Admittedly I haven't played through any Final Fantasy games since VII and the last time I played one at all was an hour or so of 9 on PSN, so my evaluation comes from a place of ignorance on what Final Fantasy has been for the last decade and a half.
It definitely is way better than what the stories make it out to be.
 

aravuus

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Wow shut up Snow, all this hero talk is so obnoxious

Oh god this is going to be one painful replay lmao
 

Yasae

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Is it wrong that I want to bash Hope's little skull in? Annoying kid yo
His motivation for half the game is predicated on a lie the game made up (blames Snow for no reason whatsoever), he's constantly tired despite being the youngest member of the party, his L'Cie hate is beyond fanatical, and he dies all the time in combat because of his deplorable hp.
 

Tizoc

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can someone replace snow with jihl, thx
My FF13 retelling fanfic would involve Jihl surviving and being stuck with the gang as they go through Gran Pulse then return to Cocoon and her interatcion with the group changes her PoV on things.
 

Frumix

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Snow is supposed to be a total dipshit that fancies himself a superhero though.
 

aravuus

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Snow is supposed to be a total dipshit that fancies himself a superhero though.
Yeah I know. Him being a massive fucking meathead unfortunately doesn't make it any less annoying. And he's far from the worst the game has to offer, there's Hope, Vanille...

I'm honestly not sure if I'll be able to stomach the dialogue and actually finish the game lol. Expect lots of "oh christ why" type of posts from me in the coming days!

e: at least this time around i can fuck around with cheats. thanks pc gaming!
 

Perfo

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This game doesn't seem nearly as bad as the stories make it out. Looks nice and I like the combat so far.
Combat is among the best – if not the absolute best – in the series. People (not all of them) just expected and hyped a game that was different from what was delivered (and I say, promised) from the beginning. They created hype over their own expectations destroying every good thing the final game sincerely had. FFXIII it's really a good game. That's it. Don't believe the internet.
 

munchie64

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Just finished chapter 1 and that certainly was... something.

Gameplay wise it was solid and I'm interested to see where the battle system goes. But the story is not looking good (no surprise there I guess). I'm liking the setting, but feel as though I'm having to read too many data-logs. And the characters are weird. I'm actually most interested in Lightning right now, as everyone else seems to be on some sort of drug (I do like her sassy black friend though).

Dat weird ass mum bit blew my god damn mind. Onwards to more 20 hour tutorial!
 

Raitningz

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Lightning.
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Yeah I know. Him being a massive fucking meathead unfortunately doesn't make it any less annoying. And he's far from the worst the game has to offer, there's Hope, Vanille...

I'm honestly not sure if I'll be able to stomach the dialogue and actually finish the game lol. Expect lots of "oh christ why" type of posts from me in the coming days!

e: at least this time around i can fuck around with cheats. thanks pc gaming!
I think all of them are fine. Vanille's voice is ear piercing and I remember muting the TV each time she spoke(sorry to the VA), but I thought her dialogue was pretty good.

Hope is cool too, he's just pretty much an confused support(somewhat) character which half of Lightning's character development revolves around.
 

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Game seems to be going by pretty fast. I'm 3 hours in, and already on Chapter 3. If this one hour one chapter thing keeps up, I'll be done today. Not even skipping dialogue. I was expecting a much slower pace.
 

Frumix

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Game seems to be going by pretty fast. I'm 3 hours in, and already on Chapter 3. If this one hour one chapter thing keeps up, I'll be done today. Not even skipping dialogue. I was expecting a much slower pace.
It slows down. Oh boy does it ever.
 

aravuus

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Combat is among the best – if not the absolute best – in the series. People (not all of them) just expected and hyped a game that was different from what was delivered (and I say, promised) from the beginning. They created hype over their own expectations destroying every good thing the final game sincerely had. FFXIII it's really a good game. That's it. Don't believe the internet.
To each his own but come on now.

Dat weird ass mum bit blew my god damn mind.
Fucking hilarious tbh, I wasn't sure if I was supposed to feel sad, laugh or cringe.

I think all of them are fine. Vanille's voice is ear piercing and I remember muting the TV each time she spoke(sorry to the VA), but I thought her dialogue was pretty good.
Oh god, her voice... It's pretty clear they went for the voice that Japanese people think is cute and somehow maybe thought it's something western gamers would find cute too. Crazy how far my idea of cute is from the Japanese.

e: i kind of want to replay the game without ever touching the datalog just to see how much the game actually shits on the "show, don't tell" principle
 

Yasae

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Combat is among the best – if not the absolute best – in the series. People (not all of them) just expected and hyped a game that was different from what was delivered (and I say, promised) from the beginning. They created hype over their own expectations destroying every good thing the final game sincerely had. FFXIII it's really a good game. That's it. Don't believe the internet.
There's so much combat so often, despite not having random battles. What's broken is the gameplay loop: combat, cutscene, combat, cutscene, combat, cutscene for the entire length. What you see in the first three hours of this game is what you see for the next 27.

That would work if your game was 15 hours, but 30+? God no. FF XIII basically took the pacing from an FPS or TPS and put it in an "RPG".

I'd go even further and argue it could've used another thin layer of tactical depth - i.e. Lost Odyssey's wall system etc. - to flesh things out and keep them from becoming the same chain building cycle. The only points where the game breaks this up is with eidolon fights.
 

Raitningz

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Lightning.
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You're new and don't understand Perfo... He rivals Toriyama on the Lightning Obsessed Scale...
I don't know, I would be pretty challenged by that. I constantly strive to be her biggest fan.

I'm speaking from this position that while I enjoy most of it, I think they should just give her a break. I will want to see her again, but hopefully not this generation.
 

Arthea

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I've played about an hour of FF13 this morning, not using gedosato, just to check how it looks. It's not that bad as I expected it to be, rather dark though, I mean darker than I remember it being.
Also I took some screenshots. but managed to upload only one, all others error on me, like steam cloud is not working, while it is working. Anybody knows what's up with that?
 

Raitningz

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Lightning.
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I've played about an hour of FF13 this morning, not using gedosato, just to check how it looks. It's not that bad as I expected it to be, rather dark though, I mean darker than I remember it being.
Also I took some screenshots. but managed to upload only one, all others error on me, like steam cloud is not working, while it is working. Anybody knows what's up with that?
I've not run into any errors at all, maybe because I'm not using gedosato. Will try it tonight.
 

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Combat is among the best – if not the absolute best – in the series. People (not all of them) just expected and hyped a game that was different from what was delivered (and I say, promised) from the beginning. They created hype over their own expectations destroying every good thing the final game sincerely had. FFXIII it's really a good game. That's it. Don't believe the internet.
Damn nailed it son.

The combat is insaneamous. My favorite bs in the entire series next to V and IX
 

acti

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Man the feels just hit me when Snow kissed Serah. The scene is nothing special but my brain is fucked up when it comes to shit like this.
 

Faabulous

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I have a question. In the Crystarium, passive bonuses I get for certain roles, do they only apply when the character is in that role, or are they global?
 

kafiend

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Yeah, and I like that. A system like this doesn't only take out the arbitrary penalty of retracing your steps (or cutscenes, in many RPGs) and even recollecting items and reconfigurations you may have done while progressing, but it removes compulsion for "safety net" behavior that is actually not needed most of the time but is "just in case" something really unexpected comes up. Both only slow down and pad out gameplay, making it all routine and decided beforehand and less interesting in the moment. This seems like a good system.

Its to offset those "save your game?...loooooooong cut-scene...save your game?...short cut-scene...walk 10 feet...cut-scene" parts.
 

Bittercup

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Very time consuming and tedious and not 100% perfect but at least an improvement:
PC vanilla:

PS3:

PC fixed:


I don't know if there is a more elegant or efficient method or if you can somehow use different formats for the game since by default it expects to play bink videos.
What I did was re-compressed the original PS3 files with bink with significantly higher bitrate. Like brute forcing quality with a bad codec.
I have only tested this so far with the intro cinematic and it works ingame. But the intro is in a single file while some of the bigger files are achieves for several videos in one. Not sure it works there.
And the cinematics on the PS3 are 720p as well. There's nothing you can do without the originals. Only SquareEnix could.
 

Spectrasonic

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what i should do with the low FPS in some places ?
is there any fix ?
Here's what I posted yesterday, it's helped a lot:
Spectrasonic said:
I don't know if this was an anomaly, but after messing with a couple of settings, I was able to play for the last 30 minutes at a near constant 60 fps at 4k. It occasionally dipped down to a minimum of 50 FPS during battle transitions only.

The two things I changed - Forced triple buffering Vsync in the Nvidia control panel, and in the default GeDoSaTo config, I changed presentHz from 60 to 59. Hopefully this helps other people.
 

Kuja9001

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The symbol on his jacket depends on the weapon he has equipped. Outside of battles he has the jacket without a weapon. Strange design, but since he only attacks with his fists I guess they wanted to have at least some kind of visual difference.
Its the AMP device stitched into his jacket.