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Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood (PC/PS4, no PS3) announced, first info [Up: Trailer]
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VetrexKnight
Member
You know if they really do need another job to be a Tank they could always just take the Rune Knight/fencer from FF XI that job would make a fine tank. That way they can leave Samurai to be a DPS like it should be.
Aeternus Malum
Member
Whatever job
had in the most recent MSQ is the job I NEED
Alisaie
texhnolyze
Banned
But DRK was a DPS in FF XI.
Shouta
Member
As much as I love Puppetmaster, it's very unlikely they'll do another pet job any time soon. The game's system wasn't particularly friendly to pets like Summoner's so I can't imagine a job where the pet is an even bigger component would turn out well.
I'm slightly amused by the JP subtitle for this, The Crimson Liberator. That and the general concept of the expansion remind me of Dragon Quest X's current expansion where Liberator is a key term as well, lol.
... and also dump a huge portion of their PC user base that have PS4-class (or lower!) PCs. MMOs need large player bases, you want to hit as broad a minimum spec as reasonably possible.
Once again, we miss the better subtitle. T-T I wonder what's up with that. Blue Skies of Ishgard was a great subtitle as well.
Ah well.
I was really just idle thinking but unless you have some receipts on how much of a "huge" portion of a PC user base they would have to drop for options that other MMOs do while catering to that same user base...I'm all ears.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
Member
Wasn't Samurai a tank job in FFXI?
Jobs can be cool even if they're not DPS people
Jobs can be cool even if they're not DPS people
Ploid 3.0
Member
My first thought was that it was probably dancer. I got excited, but then sad. I sort of don't want to see my favorite FFXI jobs in this game anymore. The transition to this game makes them quite boring or tedious. It was a nice cutscene and the whole DBZ thing caught me off guard. Maybe it's monk stage 2.
Shouta
Member
Samurai is a DPS in FFXI and an occasional off-tank.
texhnolyze
Banned
It's kind of a hybrid. But yeah, people shouldn't expect Samurai as a pure DPS in FFXIV.
I heard they intended for it to be a tank. But I'm guessing (I didn't play xi at SAMs inception) since it was good at dps they just embraced that. It could tank low level stuff but not high level, during the 75 cap days anyway.
Brat-Sampson
Member
Nice trailer, for a teaser, you can get some idea of the Ala Mhigan atmosphere. I really love this game for everything it does well and can't wait to see more of this. Absolutely buying the expansion day 1.
Just please, tell me everything you're changing about my Summoner asap so I can get mentally prepared. Also, New Egis or at least the long-rumoured Egi glamours would be *really* appreciated...
Just please, tell me everything you're changing about my Summoner asap so I can get mentally prepared. Also, New Egis or at least the long-rumoured Egi glamours would be *really* appreciated...
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Yeah, Stormblood sounds so unrefined by comparison.
Steeped in a Sea of Games
Member
Well... there was that year or two in Aht Urghan where no one in 11 tanked with anything BUT a samurai. That was a bad time to be a paladin.
Ploid 3.0
Member
When they gave SAM Hasso and Seigan right? I remember it being fun in merit parties, didn't think people used Sam over paladins for HNMs. Especially when PLD got it's new toy abilities.
I fixed this for you. FFXI was /NIN fiesta. Heck DRK/NIN was pretty good to tank in some fights (could ramp aggro quickly. Also give drk dread spikes in 4.0 pls! That was a damn good spell. Though it would be pretty OP if they did a straight bring over of it).
Stone Ocean
Member
Screw a primal fight, give me a Cactuar mount
Shouta
Member
Until they broke the 75 cap and fixed aggro too, lol.
PLD/RDM for Phalanx before PLD got it natively but it wasn't used very often. NIN/RDM was for fast casting ninjutsu and shit.
The battle system of FFXIV lacks any flexibility compared to FFXI: you have those three main roles and you can't go out of them. The game is more about mechanics than using jobs skills. Sure because of this FFXI had a lot issue as well, forcing SE to rebalance (or, at last, try to) nearly in every patch. Anyway I loved both games, but honestly FFXI was in another league when talking about battle system but that was another era.
RPGCrazied
Member
Cool. I'm so behind. I have yet to finish the Heavenward campaign, but I'm on the last dungeon I think on my Dragoon. So many games to play.
I wonder what the new classes will be, Samurai? Red Mage?
I wonder what the new classes will be, Samurai? Red Mage?
texhnolyze
Banned
And this is why I hope they'll fix these 'limitations' with their 'revamped' skills plan in this upcoming update.
Yup, she's a Dancer no matter how you look at it.
Vital Tundra
Member
No PS3 support???? That's the best part of this announcemt.
As far as new jobs go, my current predictions are:
Engineer (Tank, bludgeoning damage via hammer, mitigation through self-shields?), with Nero retconned into being one.
Samurai (Melee dps)
Red Mage (Healer, the only role that can and does mix attack, healing, and support magic).
That would bring the role totals to 4 jobs each.
Engineer (Tank, bludgeoning damage via hammer, mitigation through self-shields?), with Nero retconned into being one.
Samurai (Melee dps)
Red Mage (Healer, the only role that can and does mix attack, healing, and support magic).
That would bring the role totals to 4 jobs each.
Honestly I don't see this coming anytime soon. The battle system, at this core, is not build around skills' interaction. In the beginning of XI, you had Magic Burst and things like SA+TA or off tank strategies. And subjobs provided enough space for players to try new strategies. On top of this XIV lacks any concept of real support job and is mainly about doing mechanics right. I'm still waiting the day in which SE announce armors that improve or change your job skills' effects and not only on stats.
LiquidGabx
Neo Member
idk...that weapon on her hand seems like a Katar.
Stone Ocean
Member
I mean, all healers already mix offensive magic with their healing and utility
the_sun_king
Member
Ethys Asher's theory is looking more and more right...
Ploid 3.0
Member
Oh man, Samurai and Dancer? Time to watch this like a hawk.
I doubt I'd want to mess with tank, but if Dancer is a healer support I will be very interested, bard reborn (and just like that, I catch a glint of how Dancer could go down the same road as bard was. DD with some party buffs. How is Machinist these days?). Also with dancing I doubt I'd mind constant spinning like rogue, and ninja, probably won't have to do the position dancing that the melee classes do as well. This could be the best chance at a good transition. Sam too I suppose since they made Dark Knight tank work.
Red mage too? No SE, don't do this to me. What could Red Mage possibly be in this game? Enspells? There's no real elemental weaknesses, so maybe the enspells would just be different modes the Redmage would go into? That wouldn't be unique though, since cleric stance already does dd to healer. Can't wait to see what happens.
I doubt I'd want to mess with tank, but if Dancer is a healer support I will be very interested, bard reborn (and just like that, I catch a glint of how Dancer could go down the same road as bard was. DD with some party buffs. How is Machinist these days?). Also with dancing I doubt I'd mind constant spinning like rogue, and ninja, probably won't have to do the position dancing that the melee classes do as well. This could be the best chance at a good transition. Sam too I suppose since they made Dark Knight tank work.
Red mage too? No SE, don't do this to me. What could Red Mage possibly be in this game? Enspells? There's no real elemental weaknesses, so maybe the enspells would just be different modes the Redmage would go into? That wouldn't be unique though, since cleric stance already does dd to healer. Can't wait to see what happens.
DarknessTear
Banned
I cannot sanction your buffoonery.
PS4 is still better than a fair amount of PCs being used to play the game currently.
Vital Tundra
Member
We might be seeing class specializations so RMG could be a heal and dps as roles.
Red Mage is the only job we more or less know is coming, they hinted more jobs but only gave a hint for one, a scarlet witch T-Shirt, aka scarlet = red, witch = mage.
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
I really miss element weaknesses. Feels so stupid throwing ninja lightning at like Ramuh and stuff like that sometimes.
Not to mention there's fights where AOEs straight up don't load until after the casts have already finished on PS3.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Should we expect a new race as well or is that not really a thing that every new expansion would offer?
I wouldn't expect one. Not really any lore justification for there to be one.