twozerotwo
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Final Round 2015 - Fighting Game Tournament - March 20th - 22nd
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Rawr Its Ry
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What is the chance that Ultra on PS4 gets released by end of April or beg of may? I swore capcom said it was supposed to be sometime in the spring
Duxxy3
Member
Excellent chance I'd say.
WesternHeretic
Member
It should be 100k minimum. League of Legends hit 500k for a regular season game a few weeks ago. Not a tournament, not international play, but just a regular season game between two rivals.
Maybe SF5 can bring another explosion.
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Parallax Scroll
Banned
Nice. Always good to see more Full Schedule.
commanderpepper
Member
I would not be surprised if CEO made it to 100K.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Yeah, I never heard about anything that would imply something SFV-related.
SloaneRisette
Member
Aside from Evo (which does excel past those numbers) that's the only major I can see reaching that in the foreseeable future.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
We always talk this, but LoL is way more popular and has a bigger player base than sf4.
I dont know why it should or makes sense it would match their stream numbers.
Would be nice. Dont see how though. Unless like Taylor swift tweets out a link to tune in for us.
I do think they should be pimping out sf5 though. People are watching. 50K of them.
I dont know why it should or makes sense it would match their stream numbers.
Would be nice. Dont see how though. Unless like Taylor swift tweets out a link to tune in for us.
I do think they should be pimping out sf5 though. People are watching. 50K of them.
Ragingnight
Member
honestly I thought capcom would use FGC events to market SF5. You would get hype crowds, you would get a cheap venue and all that jazz.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Not even Dota gets close to 500k, and that's a complete anomaly even for LoL IIRC.
SloaneRisette
Member
Oh they will be
For all we know they don't have something ready to reveal just yet.
GodParticle
Member
Doesn't help when the final round website is garbage. I was trying to find out when final round took place and it has no dates or streaming info that I could easily find
BigBadShamoo
Banned
Anyone know how much RZR XIAN won?
Rice-Eater
Member
Well FR is the beginning. I'm hoping other events can build off FR's momentum and bring in even more viewers. Specifically SCR and CEO, I think they can surpass FR numbers and maybe reach that 70k range. EVO will do great numbers as usual(with possibly Melee on top lol) and I think Capcom Cup 2015 will finally cross 100k.
It was 59k during Art's match with Momochi I think and 58k during GF. Last year FR barely broke 50k. Not a gigantic leap, but it's improving.
Let's get Tswift in on this
Immortal Technique
Member
Plus whatever the entry fee pool paid him (I don't know that amount though)
plus whatever the regular tournament payout is (based off entrants).
biosnake20
Member
That's just the guaranteed amount, he got a lot more when the pot is calculated in.
cj_iwakura
Member
I'll probably go to CEO this year, but I think I'm done with EVO. It was a nice once-in-a-lifetime thing. I got to meet Mori and get bodied at BB, so there's that.
Passive Assassin
Member
no announcement?
theprodigy
Member
for non-Evo/Capcom Cup tournaments I'm gonna guess CEO will get the highest total
largely cause it'll pick up the Smash viewers
largely cause it'll pick up the Smash viewers
Passive Assassin
Member
nah i'll stop him
Brian_FETO
Banned
I still think it will be a Plus title. It's a last gen port funded by Sony of a franchise they just got console exclusive rights to. Try to get people hooked in again(or for the first time) and add passengers to the SF5 hype train
BigBadShamoo
Banned
Damn 7k plus a pot bonus??? That sounds pretty nice just for playing street fighter for a day lol.
Yeah, it's not going to happen anytime soon. LoL userbase must be ten time what it is for SFIV. I wouldn't be surprised if the Smash Bros. community is more substantial as well (Smash Bros brawl on the Wii sold 10+ million copies compared to ~5-6 million for all iteration of SFIV combined?).
Given the momentum of the PS4, it's a great opportunity for SFV to grow the community if it's a solid product. Truth be told, I expect to see stream numbers go up across the board if the game deliver.
toddhunter
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I still call bullshit on those numbers. I want to see the bot receipts.
Ten times is an understatement rofl. SF4 probably doesn't even have 10k concurrent players at a time. Millions is the norm on League of Legends.
And I think their peak viewer count in 2014 was something over like 11 million concurrent across all streaming avenues.
Counter Strike broke 1 million this year.
Twitch is growing to new heights, seriously. It's easy to see some of those new viewers trickling down to fighting games. I certainly see 200k+ for Evo being likely this year.
And I think their peak viewer count in 2014 was something over like 11 million concurrent across all streaming avenues.
Counter Strike broke 1 million this year.
Twitch is growing to new heights, seriously. It's easy to see some of those new viewers trickling down to fighting games. I certainly see 200k+ for Evo being likely this year.
$7K is just the pot bonus. He earned more than that depending on how many entries there are
Parallax Scroll
Banned
If Champ keeps playing like that he's gonna win Evo.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
It will, if it doesn't suck.
And there's like at least a 25% chance that SF5 will suck.
LoL's active userbase is about 10x Dota 2's -- SF4 is backwater status compared to the biggest games. Fighting games are a rounding error in the greater scheme of competitive videogames, to the point where I wonder why any outside entities even bother with it. (My answer to that is that they see a growth opportunity there, and that's probably a good bet... until you realize that the biggest IP in the space is owned by the nimwits at Capcom.)
I don't see SF5 having anywhere near the impact SF4 did. Not to say that the game can't be a success or that the attempt should not happen, but anyone who thinks the series is going to go from here to MOBA numbers in five years is out of their gourd.
Rice-Eater
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The count from the spreadsheet had 469 last I looked. That spreadsheet never included me though. I registered late and was never put into a pool so I had to ask the staff to put me into one and they eventually did. So I can say 470 at the very least. If Xian got at least 40% of that $4700 then he left with $8800. Whether that's right or not he got a decent pay check from winning this. Far better than winning the 1600+ man tourney at EVO 2013.
I just want to see a step up and I think it can do that. Maybe SFV top 8 at majors can pull in 100k on the regular. That was be a pretty nice boost. But I'm not too confident it can do that to be honest.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Anyone know top 3 for all the games?
Random thoughts...
A) If this is how most CPT Premier events are going to go; we're in for an awesome time. This was an EVO level field. Yowza.
B) The addition of actual prize money is definitely motivating everyone to work at new levels in the game; we're seeing really high level play on a match by match basis.
C) I wonder if Justin. ChrisG, FChamp, etc, Marvel 3 / SF4 players will end up concentrating on one game over the other. The competition in SF4 might be too fierce to work both Marvel and SF4 at a "Top 8 at EVO" level this year.
D) I sort of wish they'd change some of the CapCup slots. I'd rather have 16 qualifiers from tournaments, the next 10 in points, and then split up the last 6 slots to EVO winner from previous year, 2nd place at EVO this current year, reigning Cap Cup champion (which they already are), winner of Topanga A League, previous year's Cap Cup champion, and one wild card / Capcom pick.
E) The high level play was insane at FR. Wow.
F) Looking at the event locations; I think a lot of the US players who get in based on points are going to be from the East Coast. NCR, SCR, and NWM are the only three west coast events. Final Round, Summer Jam, Defend the North, CEO, and TFC are East Coast, and Combo Breaker is closer to the east coast than west coast.
A) If this is how most CPT Premier events are going to go; we're in for an awesome time. This was an EVO level field. Yowza.
B) The addition of actual prize money is definitely motivating everyone to work at new levels in the game; we're seeing really high level play on a match by match basis.
C) I wonder if Justin. ChrisG, FChamp, etc, Marvel 3 / SF4 players will end up concentrating on one game over the other. The competition in SF4 might be too fierce to work both Marvel and SF4 at a "Top 8 at EVO" level this year.
D) I sort of wish they'd change some of the CapCup slots. I'd rather have 16 qualifiers from tournaments, the next 10 in points, and then split up the last 6 slots to EVO winner from previous year, 2nd place at EVO this current year, reigning Cap Cup champion (which they already are), winner of Topanga A League, previous year's Cap Cup champion, and one wild card / Capcom pick.
E) The high level play was insane at FR. Wow.
F) Looking at the event locations; I think a lot of the US players who get in based on points are going to be from the East Coast. NCR, SCR, and NWM are the only three west coast events. Final Round, Summer Jam, Defend the North, CEO, and TFC are East Coast, and Combo Breaker is closer to the east coast than west coast.
Marketing isn't the issue, it's the fact that many aren't interested in watching competitive fighting games like they are for other competitive games.
If you want to grow the number of viewers, then you need to start with growing the number of players which SFV could potentially do and provide another bump in player base if it doesn't suck, but it's still nothing compared to games whose active player base are in the millions.
I'd love to see that happen, but it's not. Plus it's in June where people will be out doing stuff. Where are you expecting another 50,000 people to tune in from?
Also note that the NCAA Tournament is in full swing here. I suspect that hurt a lot of viewing period.
IIRC
SF4
1.Xian
2.Momochi
3.fuudo
UMVC3
1.Filipino Champ
2.Terry Bogard
3.Cloud805
I forget the other
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KidA Seven
Member
Justin has already been concentrating on SF since last evo.
As for the stream numbers topic, I thought Final Round did well. The community just needs to do a better job of informing the audience when the next SF tournament is and which players are attending to hype up the interest level. It also helps that the Capcom Fighters channel is getting more followers so people that aren't informed are notified as soon as the tournament starts.
I don't think so because that's a different audience, and the numbers grew from last year.
Capcom is going to average 40-50K for the events that they stream, but we're not going to see a really huge number until EVO. Plus Final Round is one of the long running events that everyone marks off on their calendar. With the number of events coming up on the calendar with conflicting dates, we're not going to see the same concentration of top level talent until EVO.
But we'll see. Maybe this year gets alot of people hungry for SF.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
Yeah it helps to stay informed via twitter and everything. Twitter, Twitch, and FGC threads have been very helpful in finding information on fighting games on an E-Sport level.