That Ken penders art is umm....https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n2ZpsbGr7s8
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Finally official: Archie's Sonic The Hedgehog comic has come to an end.
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Unknown?
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Mecha Madness was awesome! So was #39 and Super Sonic Vs Hyper Knuckles.
Babymario26
Member
I don't know how I feel about this, as the new team did a great job with reworking the old stuff and making it into a fun all-ages comic book. The Mega Drive mini-series is especially awesome, and I'm super upset that Overdrive will probably not get it's conclusion.
Man i knowww i was soo ready to pre order it after i finished reading the volume man i hope somehow they can work this out and get to finish it, the story was good and the artwork was 15/10
Psyrgery ES
Member
Echidnas can be four times more fun than any human could.
I don't know how I feel about this, as the new team did a great job with reworking the old stuff and making it into a fun all-ages comic book. The Mega Drive mini-series is especially awesome, and I'm super upset that Overdrive will probably not get it's conclusion.
For me, since Sonic Mega Drive actually got me back into the sonic comics, the fact we'll never get the third one, especially with Tyson Hesse saying it contains some of his best drawings, is heartbreaking.
The Sum of Zero
Gold Member
Issues 47-50 were great. Though I liked the issue 50 director's cut/Super Sonic Special cover more.
It also helped that both Ian and Tyson both had a handle on the characters, and it was great to see Sega CD-era Amy to have more character for this series. Dr. Robotnik was also a riot to wach.
I guess it's out of the question for him to post that artwork on his twitter/tumblr, yes? It would be tragic if it's stuck in limbo, all due to NDA's.
Oh ffs, I want Archie to keep making Sonic comicsI don't want it to end like this. Thanks a lot Ken Penders
I dont think its just kkens fault
he certainly didnt help though, infact him and karl are arguable the start of this eventuality.
But I think its more archie and sega themselves
AlexFlame116
Member
That's exactly what he's implying on his Twitter account right now. The responses to his posts are not happy at all.
Azure Dream
Member
I will never understand the Sonic fandom.
That's not the Sonic fandom. That's his own little sad-sack series.
The man argued at one point that he owned an evil version of Sonic, named Evil Sonic, a robotic version of Robotnik, named Robo-Robotnik, and his various incarnations of "Knuckles but with a beard/wig/cyber-eye".
But because Archie didn't have their crap together, Penders could claim enough of a win to make things a mess for the comic.
theclaw135
Banned
WTF? I liked the echidna family tree stories! Hard to believe it now, seeing the overblown way it was removed from the comics and his excuse for "modern art".
What does that even mean? This isn't even Sonic fans' fault.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Many legendary comic creators (Siegel & Shuster, Kirby, Ditko, etc.) have fought for decades to get what they believe is rightfully theirs from the comic book publishers they worked for and have only managed to get marginal victories if anything at all, and many fucking die long before said victories are even achieved, but Ken motherfuckin' Penders, of all people, actually managed to win his fucking fight over a 64-pack of Knuckles clones. Just think about that shit for a moment.
It's a pity for many of the new talent that live and breathe Sonic like Flynn/Gray/Hesse et al but I'm sure between Archie doubling down on their named franchise and Sonic Team doing similar (but with mostly mixed results in the past few years) it was probably better to get a fresh start.
Mania should still be good, so I'll keep myself occupied
Mania should still be good, so I'll keep myself occupied
Tyraniboah
Member
I had no idea who this Ken guy was until I jumped on Google just now...and hooooooly shit no wonders he's so reviled. I used to read the comics when I was a kid (they're almost as old as I am) and it saddens me that he indirectly killed off so many characters and even major stories still being told at the time. I'm sad to see the comic go though. Hopefully the new publisher will continue the current stuff that hasn't been resolved
Edit: is it accurate to say that had Archie never lost his contract, much of this wouldn't have happened? Was it the lack of a contract that caused the courts to side with Penders?
Edit: is it accurate to say that had Archie never lost his contract, much of this wouldn't have happened? Was it the lack of a contract that caused the courts to side with Penders?
Saoshyant
Member
It sucks this thread is degenerating into off-topic Ken Penders stuff. That man is mentally challenged* and not liked by anyone; not Sega, not the Sonic fandom, and much less the onlookers who don't care about Sonic in the first place and just go "groossss" when shown Penders' output.
Ian Flynn has been the writer for the past ten years with over 130 issues, and he has done a lot of good in my opinion by making the comic fun and readable for all ages. There was a suspicion among the fandom that he was recently sort of descending into Ken Penders-like bullshit with his own created characters and that such would have been the reason why Sega killed the comic.
But recent news show Archie may be the problem here as they are killing quite a few of their own comics, probably due to low sales or internal restructuring and the Sonic comic may have just been another victim. I'd like to know what really happened.
* not meant as an insult. Anyone paying attention understands that that man needs help.
Ian Flynn has been the writer for the past ten years with over 130 issues, and he has done a lot of good in my opinion by making the comic fun and readable for all ages. There was a suspicion among the fandom that he was recently sort of descending into Ken Penders-like bullshit with his own created characters and that such would have been the reason why Sega killed the comic.
But recent news show Archie may be the problem here as they are killing quite a few of their own comics, probably due to low sales or internal restructuring and the Sonic comic may have just been another victim. I'd like to know what really happened.
* not meant as an insult. Anyone paying attention understands that that man needs help.
I think Ian was doing a pretty good job of bringing in new characters and concepts to flesh out the world. Also quite good at choosing animals that Sega would never actually touch and giving them good backstories.
As well as bringing in concepts from all forms of prior Sonic material - hell, even AoStH mixed in with Sonic 2 on the Master System:
I think some outsiders are looking at Ken Penders as a Sonic fan since his art his hilarious and weird and scary.
Was it ever revealed exactly what happened here?
I loved those first two issues, I'm really happy I managed to find them. At least it turned me on to Tyson Hesse properly and lead me to his current original series, but I'd love a conclusion to Mega Drive and a collected TPB.
Sega has given birth to an even greater evil.
So this happened
WTF?! Why would you offer someone who's out of a job to work for free?
Coz writing for comics is passion and passion is payed in fun.
The guy has some massive balls and stupidity to just ask someone, clarify that "Yes, free plz" and respond with a frown though.
Yeah, wouldn't put it past Sega to just ditch the talent that's already there and enthusiastic for more work to just ask people in Japan to do something instead.
So this happened
Yeah, this is a common thing that happens with artist. ¬_¬;
Though considering that the person is bad at coming up with story, my guess the guy is probably a young kid who doesn't have any money.
Because they should be happy with getting "exposure".
Seriously people are just cheap and either don't understand or most likely just don't want to pay artist for the work hired.
Completely separate series that dates to before StC even got started.
OmegaSmash
Member
That was because of the reboot though. He barely ever straight up created characters before that happened and would instead just pull from existing content and would bring it to light as something new, like Mighty's sister who was mentioned once or twice but never shown before.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Ian Flynn's Sonic Unleashed arc is kind of perfect. Hope he gets to write Sonic again one day.
PixyJunket
Member
It's not any recent solicits, I don't think it was officially declared done though.
The only reboot comic that had any delays was Betty and Veronica, but that's what happens when you hire Adam Hughes to do interiors.
Saoshyant
Member
Not disagreeing with you at all.
If Boom gets the license I hope very, very much they get Ian Flynn to write it and maybe Adam Bryce Thomas or Tracy Yardley to draw it.
AlexFlame116
Member
Looking at his Twitter account, I think Ken Penders genuinely believes that he can use Knuckles the Echidna as one of his characters now that Archie and Sega parted ways.
I hope he does that then gets sued into oblivion.
What are the odds that he's trying to contact Sega so he can do more Knuckles comics
AlexFlame116
Member
Not sure. He says he has something planned now that Sonic Comics by Archie is no more but I really don't think Sega wants anything to do with him. I know I wouldn't.