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BKatastrophe
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Well at least AIM has turned over a new leaf
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
ill wait for the receipts then
im suprised, but glad. aim has always been goofy as fuck to me.
Coriolanus
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Technically when Grandpa Steve was in charge of Shield during Time Runs Out, it was essentially a death cult.
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
well, that kinda came with the multiverse falling apart
Future Foundation
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That's been Hill's game since Civil War, I think.
(Man, Maria in Civil War was a SHIT. Blackmailing Wonder Man, siccing Noh-Varr on the Runaways, siccing the T-Bolts on Spider-Man.)
kylecoley182
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Guys shield protects us all 
The Silver
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Damn I miss OG Nick Fury, the least they could've been done was bring over Sam Jackson Fury.
PhoenixEgg
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The fact that all the Marvel heroes are just ok with the Inhumans poisoning mutants really takes away from any potential this series has to be decent.
As for the outcome, I just hope the relaunched books don't go back to making every character except Cyclops useless.
They've ruined and/or killed just about every X-Man for Cyclops, especially Beast, Xavier and Jean.
As for the outcome, I just hope the relaunched books don't go back to making every character except Cyclops useless.
They've ruined and/or killed just about every X-Man for Cyclops, especially Beast, Xavier and Jean.
Coriolanus
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That's pretty much what Hill is.
I mean, ultimate fury was pond scum that didn't hesitate to drop a cannibalistic hulk on top of his problems and bullied banner and those around him every chance he got.
Manmademan
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My understanding is that it's positioned as a catch-22 between the two races. The terrigen gas/cloud is necessary for the creation and discovery of new inhumans, but will poison and sterilize mutants.
you would have to pick one or the other. Do nothing about the terrigen and mutants die out. Eliminate it and inhumans die out. Both sides have people that have been integral to defending the human race and whatnot from threats foreign and domestic.
Whose interests do you pick here?
Has this not been brought up in any books? nobody trying to find a way to stop the terrigen mists because of how fucked up they are? seems to me that everything leading up to the events of this and what followed would scream for such an answer instead of a collective shrug.
Shield fucking around with cosmic cubes and nobody thinks to magic up a giant vacuum cleaner. Bunch of assholes.
excelsiorlef
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I haven't gotten around to reading any of the new Marvel stuff in a long ass time, so I have no context of what happens outside of reading random crap on here or /co/.
From what I sorta gather, the mist came from the Inhumans setting off a bomb on Earth.
Did they get anyone's approval for that?
If not, it seems like the super hero community, Shield, and all of the worlds Governments would have some problems with this.
Has there been no backlash against them from anyone other then the Mutants who it's killing?
There is one named Comcast
Coriolanus
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That's not how time travel has been established to work(ed) in the marvel universe. Like, not even remotely. Way it worked, you go back to the past and change shit? Bam, whatever changes you make spawn in a new universe and your original timeline keeps on trucking completely unchanged. The main reason why that was done is precisely because allowing people to go to the past to fix shit in the present results in paradoxes. The second reason is because it makes for terribly lazy writing. There is no drama whatsoever if you know hopping back to the past to fix shit is a viable option.
Not only that, if you can do that, you're gonna have to find a whole lot of very contrived excuses for why in blazes you ain't doing that ALL THE TIME. For example, if tempus can do that, why the fuck didn't she go back to save Xavier? Or prevent all the phoenix crap from happening? Or prevent the red skull from sixising everybody? And so on and so forth.
Plus the one guy who could, in fact, go back to the 616 past and change stuff in the timeline was one Victor Von Doom.
Of course there's been backlash from the entire world, but some of the people who change are leaning into it. The mutant sterilization side effect was unforseen though. Black Bolt set off the bomb to cement his legacy and ensure his people's survival, not as an attack on the mutants.
Didn't aou screw up time travel?
This. The mutant-killing/sterilizing side-effect didn't come up until recently.
Manmademan
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The bomb wasn't something they decided to do for fun, Thanos attacked attilan during infinity. Black Bolt blew up Attilan to:
1.) Keep everything there from falling into the hands of Thanos, which would have absolutely been worse than free roaming terrigen clouds
and
2.) Possibly kill Thanos in the process
There really wasn't much time or room to request permission from the world's governments when Thanos was in the process of murdering them all
yep. it's entirely a post secret wars invention, which is kind of bizarre when you consider just how much time passed between Infinity and Time Runs Out without anyone saying a thing about it.
exmachina64
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Manmademan
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Fun Fact: EVERYONE died during secret wars. The current marvel universe is a recreation of the previous one by the molecule man- with the exception of a dozen people who survived Time Runs Out AND Secret Wars (doom, reed, parker, miles, molecule man, black panther, femme-thor, captain marvel, namor, star lord, and possibly groot)
everyone else died and was resurrected/recreated.
Coriolanus
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Indeed. Suffers from the same problem as tempus there.
The problem being the writer (and his editor).
Pretty good example of why the timetravel => multiverse rule was so important too.
Manmademan
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it did, yeah. the "time travel results in a splinter multiverse" is gone. Now it just changes the timeline.
2099 in particular is no longer a separate universe, but the prime marvel universe a number of years in the future. This is interesting because 2099 (which keeps changing, see spidey 2099 for why this is) is competing with several OTHER potential apocalyptic futures for the marvel universe.
it's all kind of odd, and quite questionable as to why marvel went this route.
googleplex
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BKatastrophe
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There were several trying to stop the cloud at first. Banner tried to gamma bomb it, but it didn't work as planned and I think it made ot worse in fact. Seems like everyone gave up after awhile.
Beast and Sinister are the only ones trying to stop its effects on mutants. Separately of course, as Beast is studying terrigen with the Inhumans and Sinister is making Cyclops mutant/Inhuman hybrids in his basement.
I recently thought of it: I wouldn't be surprised if (Civil War 2 spoilers)
Project PEGASUS finishes that cosmic cube that Thanos was after, Thanos gets it, and erases the terrigen.
Getting cucked by Logan since the 70s you mean. Then again so did panther, but at least he got to punch him out.
The Silver
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Logan has never smashed Jean outside of alternate universes, he's forever taken that L from Cyclops.
Where do people get Cyclops being cucked by Logan from when Wolverine does shit like this
excelsiorlef
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Ahh right.
Funny enough the marvel wiki decided to just designate all the Malloy stuff as it's own universe TRN533 lol.
cuked? have you not read Claremont's run when Wolverine was first introduced? Man was not winning
BKatastrophe
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Because they want to believe Logan is anything other than a creepy guy who goes, "Be a bad girl Jeannie."Logan has never smashed Jean outside of alternate universes, he's forever taken that L from Cyclops.
Where do people get Cyclops being cucked by Logan from when Wolverine does shit like this
Sad really.
BKatastrophe
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X-Men or X-Force?
x-force* oops sorry. I am at the part where
they just got back from Age of Apocalypse
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
logans gonna be creepy no matter what. being older than everyones grandparents will do that to you
OK
I went nervous because I didnt found a Uncanny X-Men title on AmazonThey left that for English Wolveirne
Uggggh fuck Ellis.
Coriolanus
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I actually tried to have a go at all the Pete Wisdom books.
They're very good at eliciting this reaction.
They're very good at eliciting this reaction.
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