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Fire Emblem Warriors: local multiplayer, Robin, Lisa & Lucina leaked, permadeath,more
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DrunkShogun
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It's almost certainly anouma. Sure they left characters out in hyrule warriors but you couldn't argue that the entire franchise didn't have a good representation. Maybe there is a lack of respect for the older entries since awakening was fire emblems big hit.
E_Darkness
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Weird. They worked in a permadeath feature, but for some reason the roster is still Awakening/Fates...
ShinRPGamer
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Hey now, Heroes at least has legit Elibe representation and some Magvel/Telius/Valentia/Jugdral characters. Plus Heroes isn't completely swamped in swords like this game is.
I thought Hyrule Warriors initial roster was banal. it was the King Dodongo and all those fights that saved the game.
No need to apologize, I just think its much harder to segment 20 characters from all these games. The problem with jugdral is that there's three distinct rosters so its hard to put that series in this game.
I guess if I were to pick one by generation that aren't the obvious lords.
1. 4 first half Ayra - The original Female Swordfighter.
2. 4 second half Ced -
3. 5 Othin (for axe fighter diversity sake).
There was nothing pre OoT until the dlc (asides from the big 4 - including impa here)
I guess my thought process here is that Awakening sold more than Fates, and she's a central character in 100% of Awakening players' experiences because it's a single path game:
That said, I do get your perspective. If you're more specifically targeting enthusiasts than general awareness, you might pick differently, though at that point, you might also have more characters from games that aren't Awakening or Fates.
(Boy do I hate when my internet dies just before I hit reply to quotes, friggin' peak hours. Sorry for late response.)
Never played that, but that sounds great from a gameplay standpoint.
Yeah, Heroes did well. Having... um... the female OC (I can't remember either of their names right now..) be an on-foot spear user was also neat.
That'd make sense! They'll presumably still be swordies in advertising and stuff though.
Never played that, but that sounds great from a gameplay standpoint.
Yeah, Heroes did well. Having... um... the female OC (I can't remember either of their names right now..) be an on-foot spear user was also neat.
That'd make sense! They'll presumably still be swordies in advertising and stuff though.
Dark Ninja
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She'll be in im pretty sure Team Ninja was salivating at the opportunity to make her. They love sexualized or sexualizing the characters designs for these games just look at Hyrule Warriors (not that this is a bad thing).
This. As a result the character selection for Hyrule Warriors was actually pretty limited if we're honest when you focus just on three games. All the 2D stuff was ignored. That's just looking at the "good guys" who ended up being the mains since Zelda's character roster isn't that large to begin with.
Fire Emblem has a ton more bad guys that likely could show up if we get a "villain" arc like we did in Hyrule Warriors. People forget that happen I think or forget you can play as Ganondorf, Ghirahim, and Zant. We should be looking at the bad guys that could possible show up too.
Hyrule Warriors initial roster wasn't very good. It covered only three games but with some very weird choices, like Machaon from Twilight Princess. Fire Emblem Warriors will have more characters from the start so I'm more confident.
Most of my time on HW was playing with Ghirahim. It was such a good character. The DLC later on had characters from every game in the serie, including the 2D ones.
Most of my time on HW was playing with Ghirahim. It was such a good character. The DLC later on had characters from every game in the serie, including the 2D ones.
Poodlestrike
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Soooooo where's Hector.
snow in jamaica
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I want all of the handsome and dashing horsemen. Camus, Sigurd, Perceval
mickagau33
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Not surprised at the characters revealed since they all have cutscenes character models. The team doesn't have to start from scratch.
I guess my thought process here is that Awakening sold more than Fates, and she's a central character in 100% of Awakening players' experiences because it's a single path game:
That said, I do get your perspective. If you're more specifically targeting enthusiasts than general awareness, you might pick differently, though at that point, you might also have more characters from games that aren't Awakening or Fates.
Elise has nendoroid merchandise, they know she's popular. To be honest, Intelligent Systems knows who is popular in Japan (they just have no clue on who was popular in the west)
skLaFarebear
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AlexFlame116
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I'm actually not excited for this. Oh well. I'm sure it will be fun but I'll stick to Hyrule Warriors. For now I'll just wait and see.
ShinRPGamer
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In the Elibe DLC pack since he's not going to be in starting roster.
If there are actually 20 characters, I could plausibly see both.
You're right. I forgot that the 3DS version did end up getting DLC from the 2D games like. I don't have that version.
That's likely how the DLC will go too. DLC packs for each era/game. Some maybe getting more then one. DLC for the Fire Emblem games has been crazy. They can go insane with the dlc for this game.
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Hmm. Will have to check that out. Haven't play HW in a while. Had to force myself to step away from it. Thanks.
Wii U version also got them. I didn't buy the 3DS one. The roster is the same amongst both games.
She's probably in.
The other thing that people don't mention how long the dev time for these games are. This game has been in development for a while, likely before all the voice actors got cast for all the pre Shadow Dragon games for fire emblem heroes (the characters from shadow dragon that are going to be in this game are most likely going to be using the same voice actors from #FE). It doesn't really excuse the lack of Tellius though.
Yes. IntSys was noting that they were quite surprised that Adult Tiki was so much more popular than Young Tiki in the character popularity poll, and I noticed that the Fire Emblem Warriors amiibo for Tiki is Young Tiki.
Pulling the Top 20 in the survey from just those games plausibly results in a few things they would have never expected, like (as they've publicly admitted) Donnel being popular:
1. Lucina: 42,875
2. Tharja: 29,540
3. Camilla: 25,766
4. Chrom: 23,803
5. Corrin (female): 19,599
6. Cordelia: 14,362
7. Azura: 14,198
8. Robin (male): 14,149
9. Takumi: 12,662
10. Leo: 12,175
11. Henry: 12,131
12. Nowi: 10,571
13. Donnel: 10,479
14. Robin (female): 10,387
15. Lon'qu: 10,002
16. Tiki (adult): 9,794
17. Gaius: 9,465
18. Felicia:: 9,121
19. Elise: 8,962
20. Niles: 8,703
They did manage to pick the correct Corrin though.
I'm the last person to be called a FE fan but this is what I'm hoping for. Because any character that appeals to me isn't important and the characters the fan base deems popular bores me to tears. I can't stand marth,roy,lucina,chrom,robin etc. But then again I'm in the minority
Donnel was a meme wasn't he?
Fire Emblem 1/(book 1 of 3)/13 is the most important game in the series. The fact that Caeda did so awful, showed how much of a disaster shadow dragon was in the west, and I don't think Int Sys realized it.
Ayup, Etika was pushing his followers to vote him.
AlexFlame116
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Yes, but I do think the archetype of "There was this farmer boy who became a hero." has historically been incredibly popular in the West, and him being a joke-y version of that is actually a pretty successful formula.
I'm assuming you mean Fire Emblem 1/(book 1 of 3)/11, rather than 13
Bingo.
According to the popularity poll, only Roy, Lucina, and Chrom are actually popular out of the characters you listed.
Roy wouldn't be popular if people knew how bad he was in his game
I think they were too far into development by the time the poll came out to change what they have already planned. Otherwise maybe they would have reconsidered their choices.
Roguey1Kenobi
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Sadly I have to agree.
UnemployedVillain
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Are they trying to tank this game's chances with that roster? Why limit it to only a few FE games? Why make the stupid claim about wanting to reduce sword users, when the majority of sword users?!
For some reason I find it unlikely to have such an assymetrical roster. For example, I doubt we'll Cain without Abel or more Hoshidan royals than Nohrian royals. Also, Leo should be playable IMO as he is the only likely mounted mage.
We're talking about Fire Emblem games that sold an order of magnitude more in the West than many of the previous ones did, and the West was where Hyrule Warriors succeeded for the most part.
Musou has also been on some hard times in Japan, so I'd probably hedge hard in that direction as well.
Like I get why people who have followed the series for decades would be disappointed, but I don't think that's the primary target audience here. Things like Echoes are more along the lines of trying to serve that audience.
theprodigy
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Marth got more votes than Chrom when you combine his appearances though?
I'm going to say take out Minerva (don't recall her being in #FE). Add Abel (he did have a voice as he was cast as a villain in that game). Elise is def in. Take out Hinoka, add Oboro and Cordelia.
I hope that isn't the case. I used him mainly as a swordsman in Awakening and I'd like to have the option to do so again. Being able to use both is what made him so flexible as a character.
Also, not that I had any doubt, but good to see my boy Robin making an appearance.
I guess my thought process here is that Awakening sold more than Fates, and she's a central character in 100% of Awakening players' experiences because it's a single path game:
That said, I do get your perspective. If you're more specifically targeting enthusiasts than general awareness, you might pick differently, though at that point, you might also have more characters from games that aren't Awakening or Fates.
Honestly, it's not even about popularity. I'm surprised they're going with healers to begin with. Thought we'd be getting the go to Awakening units (Tharja, Robin, Chrom, Cordelia, Lucina, Gaius, maybe Owain, Henry, and Virion). Lissa never crossed my mind, despite being a part of the story from the beginning.
There's going to be some characters that are not very popular in the game anyway even though they're not that popular (HI DRAUG) just because of achetype.
My personal prediction/wishlist for the roster would be like this:
-Shadow Dragon: Marth, Merric, Tiki, Jeorge, Minerva and Navarre; maybe Hardin as a nod to his role in FE3/12
-Awakening: Chrom, Lissa, Lucina, Robin, Tharja, Cordelia, Frederick and Gaius
-Fates: Corrin, Xander, Ryoma, Leo, Takumi, Camilla, Hinoka, Azura and Felicia
If it gets close to that, I'd be satisfied. I think Shadow Dragon characters outside of Marth and Tiki are the biggest guesses.
-Shadow Dragon: Marth, Merric, Tiki, Jeorge, Minerva and Navarre; maybe Hardin as a nod to his role in FE3/12
-Awakening: Chrom, Lissa, Lucina, Robin, Tharja, Cordelia, Frederick and Gaius
-Fates: Corrin, Xander, Ryoma, Leo, Takumi, Camilla, Hinoka, Azura and Felicia
If it gets close to that, I'd be satisfied. I think Shadow Dragon characters outside of Marth and Tiki are the biggest guesses.
Caeda's a lock.
Tavernacle12
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Lucina is a given, if anything it's concerning she wasn't revealed until now.
Lissa makes sense plot-wise: she's connected to Chrom AND Lucina, so having her allows them a character with a decent history with two others. Not that they couldn't do that with a royal Fates healer, but she's the go-to if they wanted one from Awakening.
Male Robin makes total sense since we got female Corrin. I'm ok with this.
I could go be involved in the various spats about sword users and them prioritizing only three games and whatnot, but when it comes down to it all I really care about is Cordelia making it in, and a bunch of people have noted her likeliness, so I'm cautiously happy.
Lissa makes sense plot-wise: she's connected to Chrom AND Lucina, so having her allows them a character with a decent history with two others. Not that they couldn't do that with a royal Fates healer, but she's the go-to if they wanted one from Awakening.
Male Robin makes total sense since we got female Corrin. I'm ok with this.
I could go be involved in the various spats about sword users and them prioritizing only three games and whatnot, but when it comes down to it all I really care about is Cordelia making it in, and a bunch of people have noted her likeliness, so I'm cautiously happy.
I wouldn't be so sure, but wouldn't mind it either. Hopefully Camus makes an appearance as well, even if as an enemy, since I'm a fan of his archetype
You're right, I just looked at Marth's first placing
twothunder
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to be fair. Joshua was in top 20 males with the Heroes poll. not exactly niche
only SS characters that beat him were Ephraim , Eirika and Lute
many more obscure characters around
He and rest of the fates royals are most likely in. i can't imagine otherwise