HawksWinStanley
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Are there any parts in the video that show the new gameplay aspects like the shoulder charge or pulling people out of cover?
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First Gears of War 4 Beta Gameplay
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JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Its footage from the Beta tour. So its gameplay from the Beta. This 10 seconds clip from yesterday doesnt prove anything and it was on another map.
Thewonandonly
Junior Member
Well that's good but I honestly would have been fine if it looked like this. I play games to actually play them sure it would be nice if they looked good but that's not what we should fixate on.
Mentioned on page 6 that it's suspected alpha footage without shadows etc so dunno what to believe tbh
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Is this beta on PC as well? I sold my Xbox but played the Ultimate edition before I sold it.
Game hasn't been announced for PC (yet).
hammertomb
Banned
The beta is not coming out on the pc.
Samurai G0SU
Member
Yeah even shinobi said its 99% alpha lol. i think we believe him more than the op.
Well, if you want to use 343 as an example, i think the lesson learned is that before any drastic changes are made the dev needs to get an up to date feel for what players want to change, and what they what to remain the same.
Halo4 was in many ways a natural progression of Halo Reach, which was, in hindsight, a pretty dramatic shift from Halo3. A lot of people were unhappy with the changes Bungie made to the sandbox, but they sales didn't neccisarily reflect that (though it was was the first full sized Halo game who's sales didn't seem to grow with the Xbox installed base. It had peaked)
it seems like 343i made a concious concious effort to continue the 'modernization' of Halo that Bungie had initiated after viewing Reach's reception in a positive light. So we got H4.
Fast forward to today, and 343i had learned very clearly what it was that people didn't like about Reach and 4, and they either stayed away from those things or applied a Halo appropriate balancing mechanism to them.
I'd imagine that the Coalition wants to avoid making their version of Halo 4. So they'll make a game that is going to get an updated take on gamers feelings towards the Gears 3 formula. From there, they'll have the data needed to make informed decisions about changes and/or additions.
BananasWithGuns
Member
Hard to tell what's placeholder or tentative since it seems to be alpha footage but I liked what I saw. Looks like Gears 4 should end up being the natural evolution of Gears 3.
Dlacy13g
Member
So many complaining about it being graphically underwhelming...its a true beta per Rod's own words. What did you expect? This is the issue I have with so many "beta's" these days. Companies are releasing "betas" left and right with "special access" for pre-ordering it a month before it goes to retail or they cut some deal to bring this beta to XYZ console first. These betas are nothing more than glorified demos to peddle the game. They are polished near finished builds of the game and because we have seen so many of these come out we as gamers are now trained to think a beta should be some kind of graphical show stopper that runs without any issues. The term beta for me now just means "demo build for preordering" in almost all scenarios save for a few like this that come out way in advance of their release window.
IncognitoPanda
Member
It's funny, i was hoping that Halo would stick to its roots with 343i, and that Gears would take it to the next level. It's turning out the other way around. Looking at this footage reminded me why I felt fatigued with Gears in the first place.
Sad to say, but my hype for a new Gears just deflated. It looks too familiar for me. Glad I'm in the minority, but still...
Sad to say, but my hype for a new Gears just deflated. It looks too familiar for me. Glad I'm in the minority, but still...
blue_phazon
Member
It's also important to keep in mind that betas are usually older builds because they have to take time to make the beta function and go through certification processes.
The build you see in a few days is older than what the Coalition is working on in-house today.
Besides, graphical polish tends to happen in the months leading up to release.
Edit: also if the rumours are true that this particular piece of footage is alpha footage, that's even earlier than what the beta is.
The build you see in a few days is older than what the Coalition is working on in-house today.
Besides, graphical polish tends to happen in the months leading up to release.
Edit: also if the rumours are true that this particular piece of footage is alpha footage, that's even earlier than what the beta is.
VincentMatts
Member
Ya, that alpha video is rough. Im totally expeting the final game to look much better than that. Hell, even judgement looked amazing and it wasnt even Epic at the time. Its pretty obvious that this is very early unfinished footage.
I was also tired, but yesterday i played Judgement and im so hypoed for more gears now. That gameplay is some of the best in coop.
I was also tired, but yesterday i played Judgement and im so hypoed for more gears now. That gameplay is some of the best in coop.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Why does gears look so tired?
Papacheeks
Banned
It's known they are having a big push this summer for a more updated beta leading up to release in October. Mainly for server testing.
This is more or less a play test to gauge feed back on things like guns, etc. And to analyze what the netcode is doing while people play in matches.
There will be a more open beta come this summer, and that will probably have more final effects, and be using anyone who downloads t to stress test servers.
Think of it how Halo 5 did there's. They had multiple test's for that game leading up to it's release.
THIS. IS. GAF.
VincentMatts
Member
And its an xbox exclusive. Double whammy.
Ding ding ding!
Vire
Member
Well I mean can you blame em? Title of the thread is beta gameplay.
Mods busy playing dark souls.
Kibbles
Member
I haven't seen the OP footage, got taken down, but this looks pretty bad. This game is coming out this fall right?
edit: Oh Beta is out next week, I guess I'll see then.
edit 2: Oh guess not, it's only for people who played Gears Ultimate before April 11th? lol
The 10 second clip proves that the game has made visual progress since build shown in this video. What does the fact that it's a different map have to do with anything? The lighting, the shadows, the textures, etc, it's all better. Period.
ATOMICJORGE
Member
Does anyone have a mirror and the name of the Youtube channel? It's important to me also if you need help with Spanish translations just let me know.
halo 5 only had one beta
Goose_Se7en
Banned
Papacheeks
Banned
To my understanding it had a very closed alpha in 2014. Then a more open beta in 2015.
People who got in on the alpha were under strict NDA's, then the beta came at the end of 2014 and ran for like 2-3 weeks into 2015.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Again, different maps. You cant compare "progress" on two different maps, with different lighting conditions. textures and theme.
Bits N Pieces
Member
How long is the campaign and what would you give the game out of 10?
possibly the most self-destructing fanbase out there lol.
the gameplay didn't excite me though. i will say that. i know the rest is all incomplete and everything but the core gameplay didn't do much for me. not enough has changed.
Judgment entered Live activity chart(number of unique users) at 8th place and dropped out of Top 20 in three months.
I'll list some changes in vanilla Judgment, compared to Gears of War 3:
1) Overrun - completely new gamemode, maps are very elongated and incompatible with regular PvP. Gears of War 3 had total of 15 vanilla + free DLC maps. You could play Versus, Horde and Beast on any of those maps. Month after Gears 3 launched, you could play TDM on 15 maps. In Judgment, only on 5 maps.
2) Maps - maps in Versus are much more vertical and more fit for FFA than team-based gamemodes. You could also jump from ledges, buildings, which was impossible in previous games.
3) No DBNO - they wanted a more fast paced game and less griefing, so they removed Down But Not Out state, which means no exeuctions.
4) Not a single classic gamemode from Gears1/2 - no Warzone, Execution, Guardian, KOTH/Annex,....There were only 4 gamemodes at launch, Overrun, FFA, TDM, Domination.
5) Removed stopping power and active reload bonus
6) 'Center screen aiming', camera bullets - bullets come out of barrel in Gears 2/3
7) Humans vs humans instead of human vs locust - so they can sell armor skins. Weapons skins were already goofy, armor skins like Bee, Skeleton took it to the whole new level.
8) Loadouts - one primary weapon + pistol + grenade of your choice, instead of two primary weapons + pistol + smoke grenade
9) Halo-style grenade throwing, removed grenade planting
10) Hipfire reticle
I'll list some changes in vanilla Judgment, compared to Gears of War 3:
1) Overrun - completely new gamemode, maps are very elongated and incompatible with regular PvP. Gears of War 3 had total of 15 vanilla + free DLC maps. You could play Versus, Horde and Beast on any of those maps. Month after Gears 3 launched, you could play TDM on 15 maps. In Judgment, only on 5 maps.
2) Maps - maps in Versus are much more vertical and more fit for FFA than team-based gamemodes. You could also jump from ledges, buildings, which was impossible in previous games.
3) No DBNO - they wanted a more fast paced game and less griefing, so they removed Down But Not Out state, which means no exeuctions.
4) Not a single classic gamemode from Gears1/2 - no Warzone, Execution, Guardian, KOTH/Annex,....There were only 4 gamemodes at launch, Overrun, FFA, TDM, Domination.
5) Removed stopping power and active reload bonus
6) 'Center screen aiming', camera bullets - bullets come out of barrel in Gears 2/3
7) Humans vs humans instead of human vs locust - so they can sell armor skins. Weapons skins were already goofy, armor skins like Bee, Skeleton took it to the whole new level.
8) Loadouts - one primary weapon + pistol + grenade of your choice, instead of two primary weapons + pistol + smoke grenade
9) Halo-style grenade throwing, removed grenade planting
10) Hipfire reticle
It's not the environment conditions, it's that one video doesn't have any effects turned on at all.
NewOrder79
Banned
damn no vid
Jakartalado
Member
Sorry guys, but this is their first game.
I'm not going to expect something stunning. But at least good I think it will be.
I'm not going to expect something stunning. But at least good I think it will be.
Do you ever have anything positive to say about anything?
NoLongerALurker
Banned
People freaking out over the graphics brings back memories of when the first footage of Gears UE leaked and people freaked out cause it didn't look that great. Pretty sure that game turned out looking pretty good.
Can't help but wonder if People Can Fly shouldn't have done a more humourous spin-off involving the Carmines to go along with the various changes.
Gears of War III - The Search for Carmine
Bonus points if they cast Christopher Lloyd as the Locust end-boss.
tattooed_dwarf
Member
Maybe people shouldn't jump the gun?
PetulantChild
Banned
Today is the day of all days I choose to accidentally sleep in. So it was just footage of an internal alpha and not from the actual beta or no?
The same reason repetitive shitposting does.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Kyle Bosman is a cool dude
Im excited for Titanfall 2
New Captain America Civil War and Suicide Squad trailers were well made
I got a hair cut yesterday and feel fresh
Ive been knee deep in The Witcher 3 *spoiler* its great
I cant wait for the Overwatch beta
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Regardless about the graphics discussion, we will have plenty of footage on Thursday 
I wonder if there is some kind of customization in this. For Characters or Weapons
I wonder if there is some kind of customization in this. For Characters or Weapons
I think 343 benefitted from doing MCC and having to work on old Halo. I imagine The Coalition got the same from GearsU.
PetulantChild
Banned
Regardless about the graphics discussion, we will have plenty of footage on Thursday
I wonder if there is some kind of customization in this. For Characters or Weapons
If their baseline is Gears 3 I would assume there will still be the option to spawn with whatever rifle you want and such, I doubt the double barrel will be coming back. Character customization with little doodads like Reach would be nice as well.