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[Eideka]

What do they mean by "PC that can run Skyrim smoothly" ?

Edit : oh, minimal settings ? :O

Not concerned about the performance yet. Hopefully patches are on the way, besides were they given a final version ?

 

[SonicVolcano]

Sorry but calling out a well known member, saying he's lying gets on my nerves.

At least they could just accept it and move on.

True. I'm a big fan and this review has got me worried as well.

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

What do they mean by "PC that can run Skyrim smoothly" ?

I mean Skyrim is not a demanding game at all...If they run the game with the DX11 effects it will sure run like crap. Are they THAT stupid ?

Not concerned about the performance yet. a

Skyrim chugs on my rig (2500k, 560TI), even post-patch, in the busier cities, although it's not normal slowdown, it's more it hangs up when moving through an area for a second or two.

 

[PaulLFC]

Sorry but calling out a well known member, saying he's lying gets on my nerves.

At least they could just accept it and move on.

I guess it's hard to believe when they want the game to be good, it'll be up on the site in time though - the magazine itself isn't out until Thursday or Friday (I have a sub so it arrives the weekend before usually), it'll probably be on the site either then or when the embargo lifts.

Are we allowed a photo of the top part of the page (which just says "Hitman Absolution" and "Review" with the sub-heading, no actual review text)? Or would that still count as a scan?

 

[SonicVolcano]

What do they mean by "PC that can run Skyrim smoothly" ?

I mean Skyrim is not a demanding game at all...If they run the game with the DX11 effects it will sure run like crap. Are they THAT stupid ?

Not concerned about the performance yet. a

It's strange since PCGames.de had no problems with running this game.

 

[Eideka]

Skyrim chugs on my rig (2500k, 560TI), even post-patch, in the busier cities.

I read too fast, they explicitely said "minimal" settings.

Skyrim has never run badly on my rig, at the time Phenom 955 + GTX 570.

It's strange since PCGames.de had no problems with running this game.

Interesting.

 

[PaulLFC]

What do they mean by "PC that can run Skyrim smoothly" ?

Edit : oh, minimal settings ? :O

Not concerned about the performance yet. Hopefully patches are on the way, besides were they given a final version ?

The review says it has minute-long load times and can drop to 15fps even on minimal settings. If true, then that's bad whatever way we look at it.

 

[Foffy]

So, Derrick was right, the game SUCKS.

On a more serious note: the German PCGames site gave it a gold award and editor's choice award and they had no problems running this game. Like what the...?

One review and that's enough to determine the game sucks? Come on now, it looks like you're honestly looking for a reason to dislike the game if one negative review after a small series of good reviews is enough to determine a game isn't that good.

 

[SonicVolcano]

One review and that's enough to determine the game sucks? Come on now, it looks like you're honestly looking for a reason to dislike the game if one negative review after a small series of good reviews is enough to determine a game isn't that good.

I was being sarcastic

 

[thehypocrite]

People care about checkpoints in hitman games? That's a good one, you messed up? restart the level from the top, repeat until you execute them correctly and bask in the awesomeness.

 

[SonicVolcano]

Maybe it's a lazy PC port after all.

But PCGames.de even tested the Eyefinity setup and had no problems. If you want scans, send a PM.

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZxvclTHA4A

 

[SparkTR]

People care about checkpoints in hitman games? That's a good one, you messed up restart the level from the top, repeat until you execute them correctly and bask in the awesomeness.

I had to play Hitman 1 that way due to no mid-level save system, it was a horrible, horrible experience. Losing 50 minutes of gameplay because guard AI glitches and for some reason can see through a closed door or because you messed up a Fibre Wire killed by a split second is never fun.

Maybe it's a lazy PC port after all.

If it were lazy they wouldn't have bothered with the DX11 stuff, the Sniper Challenge ran pretty good on my dated PC so I'm hoping the version PC Gamer reviewed was missing some kind of day one patch that was included with pcgamer.de review copy or something.

 

[Eideka]

Maybe it's a lazy PC port after all.

But PCGames.de even tested the Eyefinity setup and had no problems. If you want scans, send a PM.

Did they say on what rig they were testing the game ?

 

[SonicVolcano]

Did they say on what rig they were testing the game ?

Yes. It was a thorough 8 page review.

 

[Currygan]

the Master would not approve, I mean, Derrick01




I will wait for RPS review as usual, but this doesn't bode well

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Yes. It was a thorough 8 page review.

Actually they did not. I'm holding the magazine in my hands right now and can't see anything about what hardware they were using.

 

[deejay]

PC Performance was spotty in the Sniper Challenge.

Ran great for me. If the game runs just as great as the Challenge I'll be very pleased.

 

[Eideka]

Yes. It was a thorough 8 page review.

And can you tell us about the rig in question ?

I'm not asking for scans, just basic information if you can share them.

Actually they did not. I'm holding the magazine in my hands right now and can't see anything about what hardware they were using.

Bummer

 

[SonicVolcano]

And can you tell us about the rig in question ?

I'm not asking for scans, just basic information if you can share them.


Bummer

Sure:

Minimum:
Core i3-2100/Athlon II X4 640
Geforce GTX 260/Radeon HD 4870
2 GB RAM

Recommended:
Core i5-3570/Phenom II X6 1100T
Geforce 660 Ti/Radeon HD 7870
4 GB RAM

 

[whatevermort]

Actually they did not. I'm holding the magazine in my hands right now and can't see anything about what hardware they were using.

If it's the UK one, they talk about their review machines at the start of the review section (or they usually do). They're near but not-quite monsters.

 

[Eideka]

Minimum:
Core i3-2100/Athlon II X4 640
Geforce GTX 260/Radeon HD 4870
2 GB RAM

Recommended:
Core i5-3570/Phenom II X6 1100T
Geforce 660 Ti/Radeon HD 7870
4 GB RAM

Thank you very much.

If they were able to run the game perfectly with the recommended rig (maxed out + DX11) then that's a good sign.

 

[SonicVolcano]

Thank you very much.

If they were able to run the game perfectly with the recommended rig (maxed out + DX11) then that's a good sign.

The screens in the review look top-notch. More about the PC version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAaTEsXKcLY

Also, the reviewer who gave this game 62% gave Max Payne 3 55%, like what? I loved that game. Tom Francis is his name.

 

[Eideka]

The screens in the review look top-notch. More about the PC version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAaTEsXKcLY

Also, the reviewer who gave this game 62% gave Max Payne 3 55%, like what? I loved that game. Tom Francis is his name.

Right this guy has a problem with quality games it seems.

Regarding the port, sure it's going to be a quite demanding game with all the DX11 features activated but nothing outrageous.

 

[The Janitor]

More about the PC version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAaTEsXKcLY.

Supports full MSAA, whew. I thought there was only gonna be FXAA

 

[ii Stryker]

Despite all of Absolution's improvements, Hitman still isn't for everyone. The pace remains slower and more methodical than most action games, and you'll find yourself reloading checkpoints countless times, in part because they are frustratingly tied to physical locations. If you take a different approach than what the developer had in mind, you may miss them completely. Attaining the rank of Silent Assassin still requires patience, skill, and more than a little trial and error. But while Hitman is slower than most games, it's also smarter. Devising a strategy to your advantage, and leaving before anyone knows you're there are the hallmarks of a perfect hit, and Absolution proves Agent 47 is still the gaming's premier hitman.

These two statements have brutally murdered my anticipation for this game...preorder cancelled.

 

[derFeef]

These two statements have brutally murdered my anticipation for this game...preorder cancelled.

Trial and error? All Hitman games have that.

 

[Confidence Man]

Can't say I'm surprised. The shocking thing is how easily people were getting back on the hype train after everything we knew about the game.

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

Trial and error? All Hitman games have that.

It's more rose-tinted glasses nonsense. If you go back and play the older Hitman games, it was a huge part of it. One of the thrill of the old games was trying something odd and it actually somehow working.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Sure:

Minimum:
Core i3-2100/Athlon II X4 640
Geforce GTX 260/Radeon HD 4870
2 GB RAM

Recommended:
Core i5-3570/Phenom II X6 1100T
Geforce 660 Ti/Radeon HD 7870
4 GB RAM

Oh wow, for some weird reason i can't find anything about it in my mag

Supports full MSAA, whew. I thought there was only gonna be FXAA

PC only features:

Increased texture resolution,
Increased gesture resolution
Higher shadow Map resolution.
Full mouse and key support
Optimised PC user interface
Optimised for low and high end PCs
Steam works integration including steam cloud saves

Dx 11 only features:

Global illumination
Bokeh
Tesselation
Eyefinity support
HD3D support


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486869

 

[DerZuhälter]

These two statements have brutally murdered my anticipation for this game...preorder cancelled.

Trial and error has always been a staple of the series.

 

[SonicVolcano]

Oh wow, for some weird reason i can't find anything about it in my mag



PC only features:

Increased texture resolution,
Increased gesture resolution
Higher shadow Map resolution.
Full mouse and key support
Optimised PC user interface
Optimised for low and high end PCs
Steam works integration including steam cloud saves

Dx 11 only features:

Global illumination
Bokeh
Tesselation
Eyefinity support
HD3D support


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=486869

I hope this is allowed...

 

[ii Stryker]

Trial and error? All Hitman games have that.

Trial and error has always been a staple of the series.

allow me to clarify. those two statements in conjunction with one another.

they've made it sound more punishing than Blood Money.

 

[Derrick01]

What did I say? Wait for the PC reviews.

 

[derFeef]

What did I say? Wait for the PC reviews.

But you ignored the first PC review by German PC Games.

 

[jimi_dini]

- No saving, checkpoint system is awful - even an AI glitch can lead to you having to restart the level, also doesn't save data such as disguises or items you've left, and guards killed will respawn
- A lot of gameplay involves you getting to a door to trigger a cutscene
- The amount of kills you have control over how they're executed is about 25%, even then it's not as expansive as Blood Money

New PC Gamer just arrived with a review:

62/100 - A passable stealth game, but one that betrays almost everything that, until now, has made Hitman great.

What did I say? Wait for the PC reviews.

Derrick01
Mr. Accurate
(Today, 03:04 PM)

Why couldn't your tag be Mr. Inaccurate

 

[SonicVolcano]

What did I say? Wait for the PC reviews.

Yes, you were so right. The refrigerator is yours.

 

[Derrick01]

But you ignored the first PC review by German PC Games.

I've never heard of them. I have heard of PC Gamer and RPS and a few other big ones. I'm not going to acknowledge the hundreds of obscure foreign/domestic sites that get posted during every big game's review cycle whether they're positive or negative.

Why couldn't your tag be Mr. Inaccurate

That would require me being wrong

 

[Dick Justice]

haha so fucking stupid, idiots on hitman forum think the review is fake. (dat blind fanboyism)







Grow the fuck up.

You should take your own advice. Two of those quotes sound perfectly reasonable.

 

[The Janitor]

I find this a bit strange

- PC performance was awful, they tried out on 3 different PCs - two can run Skyrim smoothly yet get 15fps in Hitman on minimal settings, with occasional freezes of over a second, and load times of over a minute

15 fps isn't really playable, how can they give an accurate review if it runs that bad? And according to that PC presentation video it should be optimized and playable at 60 fps. Were they given a review copy with crappy code or what?

 

[derFeef]

I've never heard of them. I have heard of PC Gamer and RPS and a few other big ones. I'm not going to acknowledge the hundreds of obscure foreign/domestic sites that get posted during every big game's review cycle whether they're positive or negative.

That somehow clashes with your post "wait for PC reviews" since it also was a PC review, by the biggest PC magazine in Germany. Your standpoint seems a bit weird on that one.

 

[Dick Justice]

The screens in the review look top-notch. More about the PC version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAaTEsXKcLY

Also, the reviewer who gave this game 62% gave Max Payne 3 55%, like what? I loved that game. Tom Francis is his name.

Seriously? Well, now I know not to trust this guy's opinion. MP3 is anything but a 55% game.

 

[miksar]

That somehow clashes with your post "wait for PC reviews" since it also was a PC review, by the biggest PC magazine in Germany. Your standpoint seems a bit weird on that one.

His standpoint seems very simple: only pay attention to reputable magazines (in this case - PC magazines, because it is a Hitman game).

 

[Dilly]

Why the hell do guards respawn?

Oh well, I'm replaying Blood Money and it's such an excellent game. The sandbox levels allow for so much variaty in play styles that it's fun to replay the game.

 

[DerZuhälter]

I'm not going to acknowledge the hundreds of obscure foreign/domestic sites that get posted during every big game's review cycle whether they're positive or negative.

It's because it's a german mag right? Why should one care about one of the biggest magazines of a country that is the last big pc-centric full retail market.

 

[Kade]

Has this ever happened before with reviews? Such huge differences? I mean going from 9s and high 8s to a low 6 is quite something.

It happens with every game. The only games in recent memory that I remember getting uniform reviews are the Super Mario Galaxy games and Red Dead Redemption.

 

[derFeef]

It's because it's a german mag right? Why should one care about one of the biggest magazines of a country that is the last big pc-centric full retail market.

Seriously, makes no sense.

edit. V
Then you just worded it wrong.

 

[Derrick01]

That somehow clashes with your post "wait for PC reviews" since it also was a PC review, by the biggest PC magazine in Germany. Your standpoint seems a bit weird on that one.

It's pretty easy to understand. When you say wait for reviews do you mean every single outlet or the more well known and/or reputable ones? If they're germany's site then good for them, I don't know them so I don't trust them.

As for PC gamer, they're reputable as long as it's not a Bioware game they're reviewing. But I still say wait for RPS. They will be the voice of truth no matter what the verdict is. Though I expect the same level of denial we're getting now if it comes out scathing.

 

[SonicVolcano]

It's because it's a german mag right? Why should one care about one of the biggest magazines of a country that is the last big pc-centric full retail market.

Their tests are awesome. Very detailed. It's a great website. And a 8 page review says it all. They tested this game thoroughly.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Damn it, I knew it somehow.
Linear level design? No buy.

 

[jimi_dini]

Their tests are awesome. Very detailed. It's a great website. And a 8 page review says it all. They tested this game thoroughly.

At least their website calls Hitman: Absolution an "action game".

http://www.pcgames.de/Hitman-5-Absolution-PC-230791/

Am 20. November startet Hitman: Absolution - und den Deutschlandweit ersten Test der PC-Version gibt es jetzt in der neuen PC Games 11/12. Wir haben das Action-Spiel von IO Interactive genau unter die Lupe genommen und prüfen, ob der neue Contracts-Modus für die erhoffte Langzeitmotivation sorgt.