evilromero
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Forbes: Marvel & DC Fans: Stop Rooting Against Each Other's Films
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...does it really, though?
Sibersk Esto
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Well, actors are actually getting popular and doing more work after superhero films, whereas before superhero actors fell off the face of the earth.
So that's nice
SonicMegaDrive
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Comic book publisher tribalism is the worst. Even dumber than video game console manufacturer tribalism.
Pinko Marx
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The gaming community should probably read this as well.
SolidSnakesMyStepDad
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I'm always rooting for DC I just always get disappointed.
The good thing about rivalry is how each company will try to one up each other. DC announced a movie slate, then Marvel followed with a movie slate of their own complete with logos and everything. Yesterday's Marvel event will probably force WB/DC to hold their own WB/DC event (with a BvS teaser pls)
I'm looking forward to all of Marvel movies, except the Thor movie because lol Thor who cares.
I'm looking forward to all of Marvel movies, except the Thor movie because lol Thor who cares.
Schweinehund
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Given the difference in tone between Arrow and Flash tv series, I think that is what they intend to do.
tringworldso
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Way to miss the point of the entire column.
In some ways it does
I recorded a podcast yesterday, and noted things like the success of the Batman films allowed Warner to have faith in Nolan to make things like Inception and Interstellar.
The Russos have become household names.
I think folks like Hemsworth and even Bale were given a lot of notoriety for their films.
I was thinking about this as well yesterday
It's cool, but it's also sad to think we won't really have any major new film announcements for the next 2-3 years from either one of them.
So for people at home during SDCC, it's gonna be about footage we can't see...
Can Crusher
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Sure mommy, but in the meanwhile take a lesson on fandom and its effects.
Pai Pai Master
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Same here.
At least their animated stuff and television shows are pretty good.
Mighty Chin
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How can there be a War when there is only one playing?
Make Mine Marvel.
I've never recovered from the dismal Green Lantern. Hal was my Favorite character from DC growing up.
Make Mine Marvel.
I've never recovered from the dismal Green Lantern. Hal was my Favorite character from DC growing up.
peanutbutterlatte
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Just means we get more from the info side of things, they didn't just magically put Black Panther and Ms. Marvel into production in the last few weeks.
Well that's your problem there! ;p
My least favorite GL, and for all the flank Aquaman gets, surprised GL recovered from his Superfriends days of being stopped by piss.
lunarworks
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Why does Scarlet Witch look like someone's tacky aunt?
Exactly.
At least he didn't say "superhero movies are dead", I don't want to imagine the backlash from that.
tringworldso
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So you speak for the other user and can read his/her mind? Wowway to not take a joke
Schweinehund
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Zack Snyder was always a really good visual director (the visual aspects of MoS were glorious). The scripting and dialogue of the movie was mostly in Goyer's hands and that is changing to another writer now, who's already scrapped all the work done on BvS. This doesn't guarantee a great movie but I don't think Goyer was always up to snuff on writing, he had Jonathan Nolan as a partner for the bat trilogy.
Marvelgate
Mr. Poolman
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In a few years we will remember this era as the golden age of super hero movies
BadAss2961
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Yup.Did he really spend a bunch of time writing an article asking people on the internet to stop getting into nerd fights?
Never gonna happen.
Pai Pai Master
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So you speak for the other user and can read his/her mind? Wow
well if he's not joking we can both laugh at him
but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt
DC vs Marvel has happened long before the movies, but the comic book industry has been so small over the last decade or so that it's more of a friendly war between comic fans.
It has never been to the level of videogames. I think fanboyism is a major problem in the video game industry. It's ridiculously immature, and I've never felt the comic industry ever reach those levels.
It has never been to the level of videogames. I think fanboyism is a major problem in the video game industry. It's ridiculously immature, and I've never felt the comic industry ever reach those levels.
Colonel Nasty
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I don't want DC movies to be bad but when their tent poles are headlines by the Man of Steel team I'm bummed. I'd be equally disappointed if Avengers was being done by Alan Taylor.
BadAss2961
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The shared universe thing might encroach a little, but not to the extent of Marvel's productions. WB/New Line actually make real films.
MisterHero
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He's articulate and well-meaning but he's ignoring that fan heat can drive sales even higher. What's good for business can't be completely bad. Amirite?
It's the new/old Star Trek vs. Star Wars.
It's the new/old Star Trek vs. Star Wars.
Star Trek is better
DonasaurusRex
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Forbes is writing an article about marvel vs dc ....we have arrived fanboys!
oh Forbes, shut the fuck up btw.
oh Forbes, shut the fuck up btw.
Because you don't like their superman you root against their upcoming wonder woman, aquaman, shaman, etc films?
Buddha Beam
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This was expected. DC vs Marvel is THE granddaddy of all fanboy/nerd culture wars. It almost warms my heart to see it reignited so much for the younger generation.
That said, I've always been more on Team DC and I still don't think they can beat Marvel. I want them to succeed, but thus far they haven't inspired much confidence. On the other hand, we haven't really seen how they'll be handling things and won't for another 2 years or so.
The whole thing at this point is really less of a fanboy war and either more of a David (DC) vs Goliath (Marvel) narrative or a... Corporate (DC) vs Creative (Marvel) narrative. Although they're obviously both corporate, but you get the picture.
That said, I've always been more on Team DC and I still don't think they can beat Marvel. I want them to succeed, but thus far they haven't inspired much confidence. On the other hand, we haven't really seen how they'll be handling things and won't for another 2 years or so.
The whole thing at this point is really less of a fanboy war and either more of a David (DC) vs Goliath (Marvel) narrative or a... Corporate (DC) vs Creative (Marvel) narrative. Although they're obviously both corporate, but you get the picture.
You'd have said 10 years ago we'd be getting a Batman Trilogy, a Batman Vs Supes film on the horizon, MOS being a fun romp, the intrigue of Justice League being taken seriously, Iron Man becoming one of the most beloved comic book characters amongst film goers, a quite good Avengers flick directed by the buffy guy, Captain America: TWS being perhaps a personal favourite, Thor movies that are quite solid, the prospect of a Thanos Gauntlet series....you would have been locked up.
Enjoy em both kids. You aint never had so good.
Enjoy em both kids. You aint never had so good.
Glass Rebel
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yeah, mans of steel was almost surreal
NerdEyeBlind
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As long as the films are great, who cares?
I do feel like DC will be playing catch-up for the next few years
I do feel like DC will be playing catch-up for the next few years
Green Lantern was a true cinematic vision.
Maninthemirror
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DC films go for the emotional core
Marvel films go for the entertainment core
DC will have a pretty hard time because envoking emotion is the hardest thing to do in movies, especially comic book movies.
Look at all the Marvel and DC movies. Marvel movies rarely had times that were what people would call 'Beautiful and Emotional evoking scenes' they are fun and fast and moving the story forward. DC movies on the other hand have always tried to evoke the inner emotion, from the very first Superman movie, the score of that movie from the first second evokes emotion, Jor-el's speech in the first superman movie evokes emotion, that scene in Superman returns going up into the clouds trying to get the sun to recharge has that emotion, the final 30 seconds of the dark knight, the final 5 minutes of the dark knight rises, you don't see that emotion in any of the marvel movies which is why Marvel movies succeed where it has to and DC movies don't always because if you dont get the response from the viewer, then people will just go for entertainment popcorn fun.
The only emotion envoking Marvel comics film is Raimi Spiderman and even that is not run by Marvel films. I mean the Spiderman 3 sandman creation scene is one of the most beautiful scenes on film but it would have never happened that way if Marvel had its way
Marvel films go for the entertainment core
DC will have a pretty hard time because envoking emotion is the hardest thing to do in movies, especially comic book movies.
Look at all the Marvel and DC movies. Marvel movies rarely had times that were what people would call 'Beautiful and Emotional evoking scenes' they are fun and fast and moving the story forward. DC movies on the other hand have always tried to evoke the inner emotion, from the very first Superman movie, the score of that movie from the first second evokes emotion, Jor-el's speech in the first superman movie evokes emotion, that scene in Superman returns going up into the clouds trying to get the sun to recharge has that emotion, the final 30 seconds of the dark knight, the final 5 minutes of the dark knight rises, you don't see that emotion in any of the marvel movies which is why Marvel movies succeed where it has to and DC movies don't always because if you dont get the response from the viewer, then people will just go for entertainment popcorn fun.
The only emotion envoking Marvel comics film is Raimi Spiderman and even that is not run by Marvel films. I mean the Spiderman 3 sandman creation scene is one of the most beautiful scenes on film but it would have never happened that way if Marvel had its way
BadAss2961
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In its look, tone, and overall approach, Green Lantern totally reminds me of the MCU. I'd swear it came from that studio.
That one's a boo-boo.
you got exhibit A here
Maninthemirror
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how much do you think a DC vs Marvel superheroes movie will make at the BO. will it run number 1 for 6 months? I think so
Exception to the rule. That turd should sink so that DOOM may live.
I wish I could say the same. As a massive Xmen fan I was enormously disappointed in all his movies
MoS2 and Batman standalone are still to be announced. Plus Vertigo stuff.
Sure, Marvel already had those movies planned but if WB/DC wouldn't have announced their slate that included a woman led superhero solo film then I don't think Marvel would've felt compelled to reveal their entire Phase 3 lineup now, instead of waiting until after Avengers 2.
It's definitely, imo, a reactionary move but there's nothing wrong with that. If anything it forces WB/DC to do something similar now.
Ninja Scooter
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Comic movie nerd wars are so dumb. Even dumber than something like mobile phone or video game console fanboys because at least there people are usually locking themselves into a piece of expensive hardware which might explain their irrational ferver. Like, an Apple fan is going to buy an iPhone and not an android phone. But most people on either side of this "comic" war are going to watch all of these movies. Marvel fanboys are going to watch Justice League. They are going to contribute money to DC/WB. So where exactly is the beef?
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