CosmicRomancer
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Jesus. That's sickening.
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Former Naughty Dog employee says he was sexually harassed by a lead in late 2015
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Jonneh3003
Banned
They tried to buy his silence after firing him for being sexually harassed? What on earth.
Not if you are able to silence the victim and protect the more valuable employee, this works out better for the company because they are able to get rid of the problem, keep the valuable employee and go on as if nothing has changed. Obviously this is a risk and this plan falls apart if the victim speaks out as in this case, which can makes matters worse. The HR took a gamble and appears to have potentially bit them in the ass now.
Funyarinpa
Member
Nappuccino
Member
Well shit.
Agreed. Leave that shit to Reddit, that's what they're there for.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Not surprised, it happens everywhere. Really awful things happen all the time that big corporations pay hush money to cover up, too. Definitely will affect what I buy from here on out with regard to kideo games. You do not just accept that this happens. I'll put my money where my mouth is, to show that this is unacceptable and they will not make money off of me.
Yup. HR is not there to help or protect you at all.
If you rock the boat in any sense. You're most likely out of there.
Dice//
Banned
I honestly wonder (and hope) that recent news of people coming forward has a lot of creeps sweating right now.
I do wonder if exposing names is a good idea. Harassers deserve punishment, but internet-mobbing doesn't sound like an ideal solution if it inevitably came down to it (which it seems to often).
Heckler456
Banned
It's not even about culture. It's about being human. Sex is basically what we're built for, fundamentally. Give a person enough power, and let that person be just sociopathic enough that they don't give a fuck about how they make other people feel, and you get shit like this. Regardless of "industry", or "culture", or whatever else. It's just everywhere where there's people.
Rellik
Member
Yeah. Sony and ND do. But how much you betting nothing happens and people continue to support these companies.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Naughty dog indeed...
This shit is terrible.
This shit is terrible.
InsaneTiger
Member
Totally, HR is to protect the company.
KINGofCRA5H
Member
Are Naughty Dog and Sony the next Milkshake Duck?
The Weinstein strategy
This isn't really a question of "firsts". This happens everywhere, obviously it is never reported for a many variety of reasons.
BackBackPunch
Member
Just a sidenote: It's not uncommon for large corporations to withhold monetary payouts (like bonuses, etc) unless a bunch of release forms are signed by the person being terminated. I was laid off by a very large company, and my paperwork said I would not receive the large bonus owed to me unless I signed away my rights to sue the company and also signed a non-compete agreement. I decided not to sign those docs, and I didn't get my money.
Sorry to hear that!
It's not that I didn't think there wouldn't be sexual harrasment happening in videogame companies, I just didn't think ND would be one of those. Guess I think too highly of them.
CharminUltra
Member
Disgusting.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
We are going to see a lot more of this, too. A lot of sacred cows exposed. This is just the surface, and it sucks, but that's the reality of it. So brace yourselves.
Little Monser
Banned
proof in sexual assault cases isn't as easy as proof in criminal cases (murder, theft etc.) you know
disgusting behaviour from Sony here
Yeah if you're dumb enough to act like celebrities and companies are your personal friends
Funyarinpa
Member
I think that, speaking more generally, it's for the best if the identity of the accused is hidden from the public (except employer/associates/his family etc.) to protect against the rare case of a false accusation, or mobbing. That said, I wouldn't dare try to police anyone speaking as a victim, so if someone is speaking out as a victim and accusing someone by name, I have no right to voice an objection.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
What's a lead in this case? Project lead? Actor or actress?
Nah, HR always sides with the company.
I worked at a Microsoft store and Blockbuster (remember blockbuster) in Toronto. Got sexually harassed at both locations. HR was not on my side. Luckily I quit before they decided to fire me.
As someone who works in HR for a large corporation, I can tell you straight up that no one in our company would do that. We've fired region leaders all the way down to line workers for this kind of stuff. It's not hard. You just don't tolerate it and make a part of your culture.
This is bad HR in a field that is rotten.
I'm very sorry this happened to you.
Oh boy. If this is true, Sony needs to come out and own up to this shit, or something. Hopefully Kotaku/IGN/etc. pick this story up and it gains traction.
How do you want him to get proof? How do we get proof of Weinstein? How do we get proof on Cosby? Are all those people who were sexually harassed suppose to remain quiet because they have no proof? What do you want them to do?
How do you want him to get proof? How do we get proof of Weinstein? How do we get proof on Cosby? Are all those people who were sexually harassed suppose to remain quiet because they have no proof? What do you want them to do?
It's David Ballard, Naughty Dog, and Sony...
Don't think we have to worry about it gaining traction. This is going to be huge throughout the industry.
GarciaHotspur
Member
Little Monser;252011117 said:
He must have proof about this Sony proposition
DAREALGUMMY
Member
Umm...why not?
Dice//
Banned
Little Monser;252011117 said:
All this stuff has me wondering if it would be a good idea to keep a phone to record 1-on-1's or skeptical situations or if...that's a little neurotic.
At least phones and text messaging has made it easier to track the fools who send creepy emails or messages. Which I'm surprised doesn't factor in when harassers are writing gross garbage to people.
Ascenion
Member
Didnt read the OP did you?
His harasser could be female. No way to know.
Edit: Thanks Quonny. I know not all HR is bad, but they don't seem to protect employees enough in my view.
entremet
Member
Not ID'ed by the accuser for privacy reasons.
This specific thread isn't about a woman as the victim.
Nitpicker_Red
Member
It's so difficult to talk about something that puts you back in a position of weakness and shame,
but as a person you have the right to be protected even from your own supervisor, even from the people you are told to respect. It's important.
but as a person you have the right to be protected even from your own supervisor, even from the people you are told to respect. It's important.
Im glad people are able to speak up about their stories more. Especially since itll be made more aware that multiple genders go through this crap as well.
Scum need exposure of their behaviour towards employees. Saddens me that Naughty Dog has people whod do this sort of thing.
Hope the former employee finally has some comfort with opening up and gets a better job. He deserves a lot better
Scum need exposure of their behaviour towards employees. Saddens me that Naughty Dog has people whod do this sort of thing.
Hope the former employee finally has some comfort with opening up and gets a better job. He deserves a lot better
I think all Yohane means is that while anyone could sexually harass someone, women have to put up with shit like this more often. From catcalling to rape, women are the victims most of the time, thats why he said "everyday".
Goldfishking
Member
Man that's horrible. I have heard stories from friends that sony's HR department is one the ones that protect the company rather than the employees. But this is a whole new low.
RustyNails
Member
Scum.
Also pretty scummy on sony's part too. This needs to blow open.
Also pretty scummy on sony's part too. This needs to blow open.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Fucking disgusting, hopefully it will trigger a hefty reaction.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Welp. And watch as more cases like this is exposed. An industry so male dominated is going to be full of this nasty shit.
Unfortunately, there's bound to be people like this in many of our most beloved development studios and publishing houses. It's up to the people at the top to stamp this out though.
Unfortunately, there's bound to be people like this in many of our most beloved development studios and publishing houses. It's up to the people at the top to stamp this out though.