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BananaBomb said:
No longer going to consider buying TOR as a result of this.
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I think this is probably one of the most important considerations here... The issue with the activation of Dragon Age 2 was a condition of unfortunate timing. However, since we know that forum bans now block access to specific EA content, a forum ban does seem like it will block you from a TOR subscription when the time comes. Considering how these are peer reported posts that ban the content (and don't seem to be vigorously tested before throwing out bans), this seems like it may have a lot of implications for the community of TOR on the forums as a whole. Will be interesting to see what happens...
 
Morn said:
I'm not sure if you know how project $10 works. It costs nothing for people who buy the game new. It only fucks over pre-owned copies.
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Right, I was just illustrating that someone could get double boned. EA devil.
 
This doesn't seem like EA intentionally dicking over a consumer, just an unfortunate accident that happened and was overseen. Definitely a policy they need to change.
 
Lothars said:
Yes and the game looks fine heck it looks better in some ways than Dragon Age Origins on both PC and Xbox 360.

also Mass Effect 3 from all reasons should be an amazing game and I believe it will be Mass Effect 2 with more RPG elements, so I think your gonna be totally wrong but a forum ban should never affect someone playing the game they bought and hopefully this will be corrected asap.
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I hope you're right. Bioware has sold out more this gen than any other company I can think of. I went to them for my RPG fixes. KOTOR 1 and 2, Jade Empire (even though that had it's flaws) but they just shit on everything. Dragon Age 1 and Origins (1 was better) was good. ME1 was good, ME2 just became another TPS but with a leveling system, I think ME3 will be even worse... I really really hope that they don't shit on ME3. Please.
 
RyanDG said:
I think this is probably one of the most important considerations here... The issue with the activation of Dragon Age 2 was a condition of unfortunate timing. However, since we know that forum bans now block access to specific EA content, a forum ban does seem like it will block you from a TOR subscription when the time comes. Considering how these are peer reported posts that ban the content (and don't seem to be vigorously tested before throwing out bans), this seems like it may have a lot of implications for the community of TOR on the forums as a whole. Will be interesting to see what happens...
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Well in the case of TOR that policy is honestly no different than most other MMOs. You dick up on the WoW forums bad enough and you'll get a time-out in game too.
 
Hey you don't like the latest patch notes in TOR and post a semi heated rant on their boards? BANNED, your characters that you put 1000 hours into... lol on you.

Yea this sets a real good precedent.
 
Zzoram said:
Ya fuck off Bioware/EA. I'm going to only buy Mass Effect 3 USED and trade it back in to cost you another sale. After that no more games from Bioware/EA.
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Glad you're drawing the line AFTER the next Mass Effect. Gamers are spineless.
 
Papercuts said:
This doesn't seem like EA intentionally dicking over a consumer, just an unfortunate accident that happened and was overseen. Definitely a policy they need to change.
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This is my guess. Still VERY fucked up that they would even be linked in such a way.

NINJA EDIT: Read more on the link ... Holy fuck, they stand by this!?

Buying used and GF confirmed for all BioWare and EA games.
 
Snaku said:
Glad you're drawing the line AFTER the next Mass Effect. Gamers are spineless.
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I can't help it, I want Mass Effect 3. The only way I'd skip it is if it's as huge a downgrade from 2 as DA2 was from DAO.
 
Papercuts said:
This doesn't seem like EA intentionally dicking over a consumer, just an unfortunate accident that happened and was overseen. Definitely a policy they need to change.
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It's explicitly stated in their Terms Of Service:

EA may also terminate your Account(s) (and access to all related Entitlements) for violation of this Terms of Service, illegal or improper use of your Account, or illegal or improper use of EA Services, Content, Entitlement, products, or EA's Intellectual Property as determined by EA in its sole discretion.
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Heh, I've been waiting for this to happen ever since companies like Bungie started heavily integrating their games and their community sites. It was inevitable.

I stopped buying Bioware's snake oil for good after ME2. They obviously want a different audience.
 
How the fuck is this legal? I mean I realize that in the US most laws support and defend corporations, but they can deny access to a product someone paid for and bought just because they claim they should in their shitty TOS?

What would the next step be, bouncers showing up at your house and taking your TV away because you said something bad about LG in a forum/TV interview?

Why the fuck is that castrated guy stating that he deserved a ban, even on the forums, for calling EA the devil?

This is unreal for me and is the most important news of today, way more newsworthy than the NPD.

I hate piracy and was all against ideas that "it's ok sometimes" in the thread regarding such views as expressed by Minecraft's developer. I think it hurts overall profits and therefore games development. But EA sure is trying to support pirates' causes everywhere.
 
Snaku said:
Glad you're drawing the line AFTER the next Mass Effect. Gamers are spineless.
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If he's buying it used he's already costing them a sale anyway so it really doesn't matter if he does that or just not buy it at all.

At least that way he can still experience what will likely be a great game, but without giving any money to evil EA (and instead give it to evil Gamestop!)
 
Just wondering, where did the "revenge of shit mountain" DA2 thread title come from? Also, WTF EA. Stop giving me reasons to start boycotting your games along with Activision.
 
Ickman3400 said:
If he's buying it used he's already costing them a sale anyway so it really doesn't matter if he does that or just not buy it at all.

At least that way he can still experience what will likely be a great game, but without giving any money to evil EA (and instead give it to evil Gamestop!)
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Unless he gets it on used through Amazon which imo is the way to go these days if you don't wanna go through the ebay bidding hassle. It may cost a few extra bucks because of shipping but it's better than giving money to gamestop.
Massa said:
Sounds like standard practice. If you value your EA account don't violate their terms of service with it.
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People are mainly angry with how this kind of thing could be in the TOS in the first place.
 
Angry Fork said:
Unless he gets it on used through Amazon which imo is the way to go these days if you don't wanna go through the ebay bidding hassle. It may cost a few extra bucks because of shipping but it's better than giving money to gamestop.
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True, warehouse deals ftw!

I just assumed gamestop because, sadly, that's where most of the used business is done. But yes, if you go that route give your money to awesome amazon and not evil gamestop.
 
Well I certainly won't be buying any EA or Bioware games digitally nor will I buy any EA or Bioware game that has a significant portion tied to online accounts.

Mass Effect 3 on Xbox 360 should be reasonably safe.
 
Bioware really needs to do something about this. I know some people have some hate for them recently, but I don't. I love all of their games (except DA:O, which I just liked), and hold them in the highest regard.

I'd lose quite a bit of respect for them if this is allowed to go on.




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Still, Day 1 ME3 and DA3.
 
MisterAnderson said:
Just wondering, where did the "revenge of shit mountain" DA2 thread title come from?
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The demo area of DA2, which is also the only area shown off when the game was announced, was a big desolate mountainside that was a bunch of blurry shit-brown textures. It literally looked like a pile of shit.
 
a176 said:
That is COMPLETELY fucked up that EA can stop you from playing a game you purchased for saying just that.
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Aye. Fucking absurd and likely illegal.

The "EA Community Ban" is something that should only be used to remove hackers and pirates, not banish legit players because they said something mean (and justified, if EA's reaction is any indication) about a faceless fucking company.

Fuck you, Bioware.
 
Morn said:
Well in the case of TOR that policy is honestly no different than most other MMOs. You dick up on the WoW forums bad enough and you'll get a time-out in game too.
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Unless they have changed policy, if you get banned on the WoW forums, you will not be banned in game. However, even if there were situations where extreme behavior caused the moderators to do something where both a forum and in game acct was banned in WoW, it would definitely not be something as simple as saying 'Blizzard is the devil'.
 
I thought this was common knowledge. That ea account is universal across everything ea including job hunting. It's like a secondary gamertag. Get banned and certain ea game features are blocked from you.
 
big_z said:
I thought this was common knowledge. That ea account is universal across everything ea including job hunting. It's like a secondary gamertag. Get banned and certain ea game features are blocked from you.
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Certain features like playing the game? lol
 
The reason this is also somewhat disconcerting is because apparently the mods were "cleaning up spam" on the DA2 forum... which meant locking any thread created expressing disappointment in the game, no matter if it was "this game sux!!!!" or "I feel disappointed, and here are my reasons why."

If a testy mod can lock threads and warn you for "spam" because of that, then imagine what happens if one gets ticked off and bans for it.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
The reason this is also somewhat disconcerting is because apparently the mods were "cleaning up spam" on the DA2 forum... which meant locking any thread created expressing disappointment in the game, no matter if it was "this game sux!!!!" or "I feel disappointed, and here are my reasons why."

If a testy mod can lock threads and warn you for "spam" because of that, then imagine what happens if one gets ticked off and bans for it.
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On that one actually, they were even locking the positive ones, since they put up a stickied thread for all player reviews: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6413491

They definitely do a whole lot of questionable locking, but consolidating reviews into a single thread doesn't seem that offensive to me.
 
big_z said:
I thought this was common knowledge. That ea account is universal across everything ea including job hunting. It's like a secondary gamertag. Get banned and certain ea game features are blocked from you.
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Including the whole game unless you change your identity?
 
water_wendi said:
Certain features like playing the game? lol
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Blocking singleplayer is a bit much but even on 360 if you got your ea account banned all online or any features attached with ea won't work.
 
Are the conditions of a company's TOS above the law? Or perhaps the law states that if you agree to the TOS then you have to abide by whatever shit the company thought of?

So if the TOS claims that you have to log in everyday at 13:00 and proclaim that EA is now the God of humanity, and have to send flowers to them at least 3 times/month, it's their right because the TOS said so?

I'm honestly asking how this works because there are actually people (thankfully not many) who say that since the TOS said so it's their right to take back the product you bought from them for badmouthing them.
 
Snuggler said:
Another reason to hate Bioware's godawful social 'service' (like it deserves to be called a service..). It was bad enough when I had to jump through hoops to activate content that belonged to me, but this is an even better reason to hate that shit. It's hard to enjoy their games when you have their thumb up your ass the entire time.

abolish
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I'm suprised people actually post on Bioware's social site. Visiting the forum is like visting a website from 1999. The web design is atrocious.
 
poisonelf said:
Are the conditions of a company's TOS above the law? Or perhaps the law states that if you agree to the TOS then you have to abide by whatever shit the company thought of?

So if the TOS claims that you have to log in everyday at 13:00 and proclaim that EA is now the God of humanity, and have to send flowers to them at least 3 times/month, it's their right because the TOS said so?

I'm honestly asking how this works because there are actually people (thankfully not many) who say that since the TOS said so it's their right to take back the product you bought from them for badmouthing them.
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You can take anything to court, and yes you can take this to court and fight it.

The key to any case though is do you have the money to do it? The US court system is so broken, that EA can take any case brought up by some regular joe and use their great lawyers to find ways to delay the case so you rack up the bills and either go bankrupt or withdraw the case.

edit: The sad thing is that if it was a legitimate case the person would probably win, so I guess if this kept happening we would need someone very wealthy to take on EA in court.
 
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