The game was built with the drivatar AI in mind from the beginning. They thought up until the 180 everyone playing this game would connect at least once to download the initial AI from players (or right at launch, devs) and then connect more in its life to continue to download more of them.
Not that they couldn't have included some on the disc, but for a launch game this forced day one download so they can keep working on content till launch day is 100% ok imo... After launch is another story.
The way I see it is that this will all be optional content (like the stuff you would get in a normal dlc pack) however it will be a lot more content than we would normally get in a DLC, especially a free one.
They don't give a shit if the game is 20min long and consist of a guy shitting on you for the whole 20 minutes.
how would the career mode function if you are missing tracks? they just arent included?
So the Xbone requires a day one patch to work, Forza 5 requires a day one patch to work... hope this isn't a trend.
I love you for having this in gif form. One of my favorite shows growing up. So glad it's on Netflix now.
Come on. Its not that hard. Just put the tracks, that are finished on the disc, and then when the missing ones should show up make a notification that they are bundled with a free DLC.
Besides I really doubt that in these 4-6 weeks they will develop more than 2 or 3 new tracks.
So the Xbone requires a day one patch to work, Forza 5 requires a day one patch to work... hope this isn't a trend.
yes, i understand...i simply want to point out something that i saw people who were defending the certification process were glossing over...
So the Xbone requires a day one patch to work, Forza 5 requires a day one patch to work... hope this isn't a trend.
So the Xbone requires a day one patch to work, Forza 5 requires a day one patch to work... hope this isn't a trend.
Still not seeing the problem. Last gen games like Battlefield 3 followed the same mold. Release game and update (ie: support) said game for the long, long, long haul. Simple as that. If you dont have an internet connection these days might as well just stick with old school gaming.This is essentially saying: "We're not releasing a complete game. We're completing a game, at release".
It's fucking horrible. This generation hasn't even begun and already has shitty practices.
For those saying this isn't a problem. It is. Most day one patches fix stuff, but the game should be playable (unless it's Skyrim on PS3), without this patch, you cannot play at all.
If you can't get your game ready at launch, then fucking delay it for fuck's sake. If people have a shitty internet, should they put up with a 2-5GB download?
I love you for having this in gif form. One of my favorite shows growing up. So glad it's on Netflix now.
Day one content patch and people are complaining smh....
so, entire race events couldnt be completed without the dlc. the game couldnt be completed without the dlc. thats a solution?
DLC still get certified just like a full game. The difference is that the turnaround time for DLC cert is a week where a game can go up to a month.
What is with this new gaf trend of just pretending like current gen never happened?
Right now you cant even play the Game without the DLC...
its still better than not being able to play the game for people who do not want to connect online or not no connection.so, entire race events couldnt be completed without the dlc. the game couldnt be completed without the dlc. thats a solution?
Complete gaf overreaction.
This game was the de facto always online launch game. Of course there will be huge last min changes.
Also what game this gen has launch with no day one patch? not many.
So when you buy your shiney new X1 one with forza, you have to
Download a day 1 patch to play offline
Download a day one patch to play your game.
the same time as up to 2 million other players.
And people shitted on the WiiU launch.
That said, if this an isolated thing, it really isnt the biggest deal. but if this becomes a trend....
I did the phone interview with Dan Greenawalt and wrote this story and, IMO, this is 100% about getting every last second in order to get a AAA launch game shipped on time. I'm not saying it's right or wrong but it has nothing to do with DRM or screwing users in some way as it does getting that extra 4-6 weeks to work on the game that they wouldn't have otherwise gotten had they been forced to ship entirely on disc.
Still not seeing the problem. Last gen games like Battlefield 3 followed the same mold. Release game and update (ie: support) said game for the long, long, long haul. Simple as that. If you dont have an internet connection these days might as well just stick with old school gaming.
Can't wait for the server meltdowns...
That said, if this an isolated thing, it really isnt the biggest deal. but if this becomes a trend....
It's already a trend on 360/PS3, don't see why it would be any different on the new consoles.
What is with this new gaf trend of just pretending like current gen never happened?
[But] that is required content to play the game. We basically have designed the game to work with all that content no matter how late is coming in
its still better than not being able to play the game for people who do not want to connect online or not no connection.
Your opinion isn't one to be trusted.What's your point?
I'm sure that the "GOTY" edition of Forza 5 will include the free DLC.
In an interview with IGN, Dan Greenawalt, the studio head at Forza developer Turn 10 Studios, clarified how their day-one racing game will work if your Xbox One isn’t connected to Xbox Live.
Your opinion isn't one to be trusted.
So their revolutionary approach is making us waste bandwidth on the game's missing bits and pieces, rather than put them on the disc? Jesus Christ.
While I don't doubt the intent is true, what reaction did you expect when a disc based game requires a download of content to function?
This isn't just a case of "Hey, let us get the users some more content for launch!" The game doesn't function without the download.
They answers clearly, it can't work without at least one connection to xblive and downloading the dlc.so how exactly will it work, then, if you're not connected to xbox live? am i misreading something here?
Have fun with that.I'm pretty sure that the first time i downloaded Battlefield 3 on PS3, i could skip the 2Gigs update and just play offline.
Wow.Your opinion isn't one to be trusted.