SmartWaffles
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Forza Horizon 3 PC Performance Thread
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J_ToSaveTheDay
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Eh, actually, turning off MSAA for FXAA-only is ending up not being great after all -- IQ takes a pretty steep dive with no MSAA and performance is still really rough in some of the races I'm encountering. I will indeed just play on Xbox One for now and hope there's more patches and optimizations down the road on PC. Bit of a bummer but at least I still have a platform where I can play pretty reliably for now.
Also, not sure if it's the performance issues, a frame pacing issue, or just an actual game change but the physics feel quite a bit different from the demo to me -- they're feel a lot stiffer and perhaps more sim-like now... Generally feels like my vehicle is a lot less responsive when turning. I wonder what's up with that? I turned TCS and the driving line off, which are enabled by default, and that's the exact difficulty I played the demo at a ton. Still feels that way when the in-game fps counter is reading solid 60.
Also, not sure if it's the performance issues, a frame pacing issue, or just an actual game change but the physics feel quite a bit different from the demo to me -- they're feel a lot stiffer and perhaps more sim-like now... Generally feels like my vehicle is a lot less responsive when turning. I wonder what's up with that? I turned TCS and the driving line off, which are enabled by default, and that's the exact difficulty I played the demo at a ton. Still feels that way when the in-game fps counter is reading solid 60.
Hawk269
Member
I am running a I7-3930k OC to 4.7, 16gigs or RAM, Titan X Pascal OC to 2050 on the core and +500 on the memory, running everything at max and getting 60fps, but dips, especially near towns, cities etc, I had drops to the 45 range (kind of rare). I did some testing in the big city and even if I change resolution to 1080p from 4k, I still get about the same drops. So I am thinking it is something else, not an issue of not having enough GPU/CPU power, if it drops about the same at 4k and 1080p there is something else going on.
I did try the no MSAA and No FXAA and it seemed a little smoother, even though the frame rate was not really changing, it seemed a little smoother, but not 100%. I hope Playground/Turn 10 are reading this thread because game is outstanding, they just need to fix the hick ups, which seem like it is more a frame pacing issue. I have run the same race over and over (the dune buggy/helicopter one) and I get the same slight drops to 52 or so when I hit the small town area right after going through the beach area, regardless if it is 4k or 1080p, even tried MSAA/FXAA on/off at 1080p and 4k, still same drops.
Hope a patch is on it's way for this.
I did try the no MSAA and No FXAA and it seemed a little smoother, even though the frame rate was not really changing, it seemed a little smoother, but not 100%. I hope Playground/Turn 10 are reading this thread because game is outstanding, they just need to fix the hick ups, which seem like it is more a frame pacing issue. I have run the same race over and over (the dune buggy/helicopter one) and I get the same slight drops to 52 or so when I hit the small town area right after going through the beach area, regardless if it is 4k or 1080p, even tried MSAA/FXAA on/off at 1080p and 4k, still same drops.
Hope a patch is on it's way for this.
Apparently directly over your post it was said that 4x MSAA is causing it. WIll try to change that as well today.
Just did the first couple of races and got to Surfers Paradise. Running it at 60 fps 1080p high preset with dynampic optimisation on. No drops or stuttering so far, only very very small asset loading hitches here and there but these are far and few between.
Specs:
I5 3570k @ 4.4
16GB
Game on HDD, OS on SSD
RX 480 with the latest AMD forza game ready drivers
You do notice the MSAA turning on and off with dynamic optimisation, I might do some tinkering later on to get a more consistent look.
Same problem but i could not even start once.
Non crash, no error message, nothing. Just the splash screen.
What refresh rate are your monitors running at? If it is the same as Apex, then I could never get past the splash screen if my monitor was at 144Hz, I always had to set it to 60Hz.
i5-4690k 3.5 ghz
GTX 970
16 GB Ram
When I first booted up the game I had the stuttering issues but I went into nvidia control panel and turned off threaded optimization which fixed that for me.
Graphical settings... 1080p and I'm running dynamic optimization off but everything is on medium with 2x msaa and fxaa off. Framerate smoothing and V-sync are both on.
Framerate is 60fps 99% of the time outside of the city but always holding 57+ from what I noticed...In the big city it dipped to the 40-45 range at times but held 60 most of the time. I can live with the frame dips the stuttering is what would have turned me away. Hopefully patches can come through for both though.
Game itself even on these lower settings is beautiful though. Way better than the xb1 version which I also tried tonight (and played the demo). Absolutely loving the game.
GTX 970
16 GB Ram
When I first booted up the game I had the stuttering issues but I went into nvidia control panel and turned off threaded optimization which fixed that for me.
Graphical settings... 1080p and I'm running dynamic optimization off but everything is on medium with 2x msaa and fxaa off. Framerate smoothing and V-sync are both on.
Framerate is 60fps 99% of the time outside of the city but always holding 57+ from what I noticed...In the big city it dipped to the 40-45 range at times but held 60 most of the time. I can live with the frame dips the stuttering is what would have turned me away. Hopefully patches can come through for both though.
Game itself even on these lower settings is beautiful though. Way better than the xb1 version which I also tried tonight (and played the demo). Absolutely loving the game.
So what are people using to achieve 60FPS without drops? Even on the High Preset - i7 3770K, 16GB RAM, Titan X- I'm still getting stuttering and fluctuating framerates.
I'm about to just lock it at 30fps and play it at 4K. Turning off MSAA doesn't really do much for me for some reason to keep it at 60fps.
I'm about to just lock it at 30fps and play it at 4K. Turning off MSAA doesn't really do much for me for some reason to keep it at 60fps.
Well play anywhere is easy, just switched to my PC from Xbox.
Running at 4K Ultra with Dynamic on and FR is hovering at 39-44
My Spec:
i7-5960X 8-cores, 20MB Cache, Overclocked up to 4.0 GHz w/ Turbo Boost
Triple GTX TITAN X in SLI
32GB DDR4 2133MHz
Samsung U32D970Q 4K Monitor
Maybe I'll drop for 60 or lock at 30?
Running at 4K Ultra with Dynamic on and FR is hovering at 39-44
My Spec:
i7-5960X 8-cores, 20MB Cache, Overclocked up to 4.0 GHz w/ Turbo Boost
Triple GTX TITAN X in SLI
32GB DDR4 2133MHz
Samsung U32D970Q 4K Monitor
Maybe I'll drop for 60 or lock at 30?
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
I'd drop for 60! In my own experience (granted on much lesser hardware than yours), I'm finding the 30fps lock to have really bad frame pacing both with and without vsync enabled. In motion I don't really notice any screen tearing but the lock does make the game feel sluggish no matter whether or not vsync is on.
I have a Core i7 6700K (oc'ed to 4.6GHz), 16GB of RAM, GTX 1070 (running latest Game Ready Drivers for Forza Horizon 3) and the game is installed on a SanDisk SSD (not the Windows boot drive) and it ran over 60 fps (most cases over 70) set to Ultra at 1440p however during the tutorial it race with the jeep and helicopter it hitched to 45-50 fps when a giant Ferris wheel came into view. Not sure what happened there.
Just to make sure I turned off FXAA and dropped MSAA from 4x to 2x as I saw on another thread having both forms of AA might cause strange issues and thought maybe MSAA was taxing but now my framerate sometimes hits the 80s.
I've played about 1 hour in total and not come across anything like that dip since. My monitor can only go to 60Hz so I'm wondering if putting it back to 4x might be OK.
I also have Fast Sync set in the NVIDIA Control Panel, should I be seeing anything over 60fps? Is something up?
Just to make sure I turned off FXAA and dropped MSAA from 4x to 2x as I saw on another thread having both forms of AA might cause strange issues and thought maybe MSAA was taxing but now my framerate sometimes hits the 80s.
I've played about 1 hour in total and not come across anything like that dip since. My monitor can only go to 60Hz so I'm wondering if putting it back to 4x might be OK.
I also have Fast Sync set in the NVIDIA Control Panel, should I be seeing anything over 60fps? Is something up?
So 4670k @ 4Ghz, GTX980, 16GB ram, SSD...and I get pretty damn consistent 60fps @ 1080p on the high preset. I haven't reached the city yet and have only completed the first handful of events. The one thing this game DOES do is slow down for a brief second every 10 seconds or so. It's incredibly annoying. It's almost like when using an emulator and you have frameskip at 0 and the game slows itself down to avoid any frameskipping. I can't tell if its a streaming thing or what but it sucks. I did disable hyperthreading and nothing changed.
| Praxis |
Banned
I was expecting my Titan to eat it alive.
Really soured on this game and I haven't even played it yet. One of the worst launches for me personally.
Thanks for the info, your system is pretty close to mine so I'll likely just wait in hope that there's a patch or two over the next few weeks and then commit. 60fps at high is good for me.
Sorry for the late reply, my i5 2500K is at 4.5GHz, and I drop down to 20-30fps in the cities, and stay in the 40 - 50's in the outback.
I am at 3440x1440 though.
Hope the patches come soon.
Load times with SSD are crazy compared to the console version.
Yeah. Honestly, I know that slowdown stuff is a big negative, but it isn't game-breaking IMO, and I do still recommend the game. I'm hoping they patch it, but from what it sounds like, Apex is still stuttering a bit for some users and that's been out for awhile.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
Are people getting a smooth experience at 30fps? I've got a 970 and haven't grabbed the game yet. But if I can't get a consistent 60fps I'm hoping 30fps will be stutter free.
camequipped
Member
Yea I'm in queue to cancel my order now. I feel pretty sad since I'll be missing out on such a good game but I can do without the grief. It has restarted my download for the past 3 days now..
SilentRage47
Member
Pretty happy i skipped the Ultimate Edition, i'll probably just wait for a performance patch and a better price. If you want me to pay 64,99 for a PC game it must be a solid port, Microsoft.
Might be finally time to retire my trusty steed, the 2500k@4.5Ghz & 780ti combo. This game demands more. Can barely hold 30fps at dynamic medium at 1080p. Bah.
EDIT - I'm thinking a 6850K, 6 core+HT (can probably OC to about 4.4Ghz by the sound of it as well, close to my 2500K), and a 1080. Oh and a new motherboard and some DDR4
EDIT - I'm thinking a 6850K, 6 core+HT (can probably OC to about 4.4Ghz by the sound of it as well, close to my 2500K), and a 1080. Oh and a new motherboard and some DDR4
Don't count on it although it might help. My CPU (3570k@4.5GHz) doesn't even have HT but Apex stutters.
SmartWaffles
Member
I always have Maximum Performance enabled in Nvidia control panel and the performance has been quite good (not perfect) for me on both a high end and a mid-low range PC.
No, you apparently have to cancel your standard order and rebuy ultimate.
Thank you!
Might be finally time to retire my trusty steed, the 2500k@4.5Ghz & 780ti combo. This game demands more. Can barely hold 30fps at dynamic medium at 1080p. Bah.
EDIT - I'm thinking a 6850K, 6 core+HT (can probably OC to about 4.4Ghz by the sound of it as well, close to my 2500K), and a 1080. Oh and a new motherboard and some DDR4
Rather upgrade your GPU. A 1070/1080 will bring you lot more than a 6850k.
I am playing with 2600k@4,6Ghz and 1070 GTX mostly just fine at 1440p ultrawide.
Patrick Young
Member
i5 2500K, OC'd to 4.2 or something?
GTX 970 4GB
8GB RAM
Samsung 850 EVO
1920x1080
VSync
Motion Blur
Dynamic Optimisation set to High.
Ranging from 50-60FPS. Rock solid 30FPS lock when I have that on.
GTX 970 4GB
8GB RAM
Samsung 850 EVO
1920x1080
VSync
Motion Blur
Dynamic Optimisation set to High.
Ranging from 50-60FPS. Rock solid 30FPS lock when I have that on.
I basically have the same spec as you, but 16Gb RAM and a 780ti vs your 970 (I think they should be roughly equal performance wise though). As I mentioned above, can barely hold 30fps at medium. What gives?
SmartWaffles
Member
Make sure you have the latest drivers and set power profile to Maximum performance in Nvidia control panel.
Forza Horizon 3 Alienware Alpha R1 i3 860M Performance Test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgeJM5XmDxM
I start getting my hopes up ...and some RAM.
3220 / 8GB RAM / 970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgeJM5XmDxM
I start getting my hopes up ...and some RAM.
3220 / 8GB RAM / 970
dgrdsv
Member
DX12 game, badly optimized for NV h/w again judging from first reports, this would be especially true for Kepler cards which need a separate optimization path from Maxwell/Pascal.
I have the latest drivers (the game ready ones from yesterday) already. I didn't set the power management mode though, I'll try that and see if it helps...
Holy shit, that tip about the power management: 'prefer maximum performance' actually bloody worked! Was having trouble holding 30fps at medium before, but now, with no other changes, I get a locked 60 with the same settings. I can even bump settings up to high and lock to 30 now as well, which I think I might do...
Awesome! Still a bit of life in the old rig yet. This should probably be in the OP.
Thanks I'll try both, as well as a res drop and a detail drop.
Nice. Can't wait to get home and try this on my own.