Macho Madness
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I know MSNBC isn't balanced with their programming. They make no bones about it. But calling the network with Hannity and O'Reilly on it "fair" and "nonpartisan" is realllly funny.
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Fox News to Host Live Event With Bernie Sanders. Hillary Too
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DontBeThatGuy
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Smith is cool, no one else.
Tarkus
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I mean, besides whom you've named and some of the pundits, you're fairly wrong.
Macho Madness
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The network that just recently leaked a memo saying "We can't do the Rubio thing anymore?"
DontBeThatGuy
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Ailes telling a Fox News host, "we're done with Rubio" is all that really needs to be said. It's a network dedicated to a specific agenda, to their conservative propaganda the vast majority of the time. They've poisoned minds with that bullshit.
Tarkus
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I didn't say the prime time people (which you named), aren't partisan. The opinion shows are ridiculous on this channel. The hard news though, is leagues above the others. Fox breaks news 5-10 minutes before ANYONE consistently. Shepard Smith is the best newscaster on television. He's fair, honest, and doesn't mind to give you an opinion. And he breaks the mold of what most people who don't really watch Fox news believe.
DontBeThatGuy
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Smith is too good for that trash network.
Good Job Bob
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Now that Bernie Sanders has officially destroyed the Democratic party with this town hall, what should the new centre-left party of America be called? I think New Democrats will do just fine even if it is a tad uninspired.
Tarkus
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Well, there's a reason why an openly(fairly) gay man works for this channel. He feels that as a reporter, there is no better place he could be in terms of resources. CNN and MSNBC would pay out the ass to sign him.
Tonight was a big improvement in Fox News' coverage but let's not get carried away here, they're still pretty awful and an insult to real journalism.
Shep is the only voice of sanity on the channel.
my name is ed
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I agree fox news is a channel that shows news and might be worth watching if you completely ignore all the bad shit
nature boy
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If "sanity" is anything anti-conservative or progressive I agree.
But those anchors, including Baier tend to be more balanced and reasonable.
Primetime is a different matter.
Not saying Fox News is a fantastic news source, because it's far from it, but they do have good reporters/anchors mixed in with the drivel of morning and primetime.
They may have their favorite candidate, but they don't lie or spread bullshit.
Have you even watched their coverage of Clinton?
There's no way you can say that with a straight face.
Tarkus
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I'm glad to see that someone actually pays attention to FNC rather than deride it based on name only.
My feelings echo this. I wouldn't mind either, both are suitable to me for different reasons.
It's really disheartening however to see people say things like "if Bernie doesn't get the nomination I'm voting Trump because fuck it all"
All was pointing out is bias depends on the audience. I'm sure if a Fox viewer watched TYT they would call them the most bias news like organization
Well that came out pretty much the way I expected. Bernie and Hillary stood their ground, dealt with with a variety of questions and sold themselves. Hillary did better over all but the Doom and gloom and hyperbole earlier in this thread was embarrassing. These two are long time politicians and could easily handle this and worse. What surprised me more was how easy Fox went on them overall.
Fox is biased as hell. It's not just their prime time coverage. It's who they give air time to, what ideas they actively push, and how they legitimize people/ideas (like Trump, who they gave enormous air time to before he became a candidate). If you think it's just prime time then take a look at Fox and Friends. Their morning slot, for 3 hours, is pure propaganda. That's not even taking into account their active spreading of misinformation like their amazing charts or falsely identifying scandal ridden politicians as democrats. Not biased? C'mon. Roger Ailes has mastered his craft and it's an insult to his network to say that they even aim for fair and balanced.
Ted Cruz's face (that is Cruz, right?) with Jim Carrey's Dumb and Dumber hair kinda looks like Alfred E. Neuman
Macho Madness
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No, Ted Cruz is the guy in my avatar.
Ted Cruz's face (that is Cruz, right?) with Jim Carrey's Dumb and Dumber hair kinda looks like Alfred E. Neuman
Tarkus
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No mine! With a slicker haircut.
Rentahamster
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http://www.foxnews.com/live-coverage/fox-news-democratic-presidential-town-hall
Told ya.This was a fairly benign and informative town hall. If it wasn't the booby trap some were expecting, then so be it. Now is not the time to rationalize why the actual event did not match up to your preconceived notions of what you thought it was gonna be by making up conspiracy theories about FOX secretly wanting Hillary over Trump.
If the next one is a highly partisan clusterfuck of a trap, then FOX can be criticized then, at that time. For now, it's prudent to just give them the benefit of the doubt and move on to more constructive things.
Tonight was a big improvement in Fox News' coverage but let's not get carried away here, they're still pretty awful and an insult to real journalism.
Shep is the only voice of sanity on the channel.
More of an insult to human intelligence imo.
examples of these clinton lies?
Yeah well Hilary doesn't promise much besides keeping what Obama's been doing consistent. Bernie is of course going to do the same except try for more.
The trump if bernie doesn't get the nomination thing isn't a real thing fyi.
boiled goose
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Damn Bernie beasted the townhall compared to the debate.
Healthcare answer was amazing.
Prochoice answer was amazing.
Minimum wage answer was amazing.
All genuine, rallying, clap inducing, deliveries.
Good reframing on big government on pro choice.
Yet people will focus on finger wagging and outdated terms.
They are biased but transparent about their bias and ultimately honest.i dont agree with them all the time, but what have they said about Clinton that you think is inaccurate?
Healthcare answer was amazing.
Prochoice answer was amazing.
Minimum wage answer was amazing.
All genuine, rallying, clap inducing, deliveries.
Good reframing on big government on pro choice.
Yet people will focus on finger wagging and outdated terms.
They are biased but transparent about their bias and ultimately honest.i dont agree with them all the time, but what have they said about Clinton that you think is inaccurate?
Well that's because he is lying. Or intentionally exaggerating. They are nowhere NEAR even approaching the category of moderate. Their terrible reputation is exactly deserved. A single well ran town hall doesn't erase years of nonsense. That's not how it works.
Break a news story 5 minutes before someone else? Fine. Have a single great news caster? Sure. Fair and moderate? NO. Don't even try to make that leap. Its ridiculous.
shoplifter
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Of course Fox wants a dem in office. It's better for ratings
Someone actually spouted Fox's slogan to defend them, "fair and balanced"....lol.
Kinda surprised as to why Hillary ceded. I mean I understand the optics if she were to have refrained. Bernie was a bit bold in this one. Not sure why...I mean I guess he wants #1: more exposure with white voters, #2: Have Fox grill Hillary over the e-mails and see if Hillary trips herself before a primary.....all good reasons. There are also the drawbacks, to fox he's a damn commie. They treated them "nice"...that's how you get back in the game if you're Fox - charm offensives. It even worked with Trump. Twist the knife when the pray is the most vulnerable.
Kinda surprised as to why Hillary ceded. I mean I understand the optics if she were to have refrained. Bernie was a bit bold in this one. Not sure why...I mean I guess he wants #1: more exposure with white voters, #2: Have Fox grill Hillary over the e-mails and see if Hillary trips herself before a primary.....all good reasons. There are also the drawbacks, to fox he's a damn commie. They treated them "nice"...that's how you get back in the game if you're Fox - charm offensives. It even worked with Trump. Twist the knife when the pray is the most vulnerable.
Rentahamster
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Apparently this Town Hall originated as a debate between Sanders and Trump. That would have been something to see.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/09/us/politics/fox-news-democratic-candidates.html?_r=0
Would have been nice.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/09/us/politics/fox-news-democratic-candidates.html?_r=0
Would have been nice.
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