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FUSE delayed [Up: Confirmed - Releasing April-June 2013]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Yup!
Awesome I be their day one of course.
This game has the same pre-release stigma as John Carter had. It doesn't matter any more how good the actual end product is going to be, so many people have already made up their mind about this game: bomba based on a cover and a name change.
I feel bad for Insomniac ....
NullPointer
Member
Sounds good to me.
Takamura-San
Member
Great.
More time, more polish, always a good opportunity when it arises. Delays are barely ever a bad thing in the end.
Aquamarine
Member
Awesome, man. More polish can only be a good thing. Looking forward to playing it!
Ventilaator
Banned
I wish I knew how to be this optimistic. The scenario where Insomniac turns Overstrike into Fuse and is then happy about it is completely inconceivable to me. In my head the press release saying how awesome the change is required about a dozen people to write, because nobody could write more than a couple words before breaking down crying.
Zeouterlimits
Member
A great (and I do mean great) demo would probably do wonders.
I think you are right, for the next 2 years at least. But it's not like they are, or have ever said, they are 'splitting up' with Sony.
/start wild speculation
They need the regular gigs from Sony to stay profitable for now, developing their own cross platform engine, funding expansion, creating Outernauts which isn't yet doing great numbers (50k weekly users steady) isn't cheap and they can't have that much money saved up in the bank.
I reckon that they are cooking up one next gen game for Sony. There's no way over the last year their North Carolina studio has just been working on R&C Full Frontal Assault. Though It could also be another team within their Burbank studio.
On top of that I'd imagine they have another multi-platform in the works, or making a Fuse sequel come hell or high water. There's no point making a multi-platform engine for one game at this late stage, there has to be plans for something else this gen unless it's a base for building their next gen engine and being multi-platform.
Outernauts team will be full steam ahead improving the game and adding content, with a smaller team working on 'demos' for other fb/mobile games.
Then whichever studio isn't doing next gen will be doing some fresh PSN game.
I would also reckon that Tin Giant, who are porting R&C FFA to Vita, are possibly being prepared to create a R&C Vita game themselves afterwards. Sony won't leave one of their top franchises off the console, and High Impact Games (that did the PSP R&C games) is busy doing smaller projects and regular licence work. But as a wildcard I'd say R&C Vita is Sanzaru Games (The new Sly game) next project.
/end wild speculation
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
Freezasaurus
Member
I thought it looked pretty neat from the previews. It reminded me a bit of Brute Force.
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But in a good way.
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But in a good way.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Why are they bothering? It will bomb regardless.
-- Aside from the low-poly jacket and kneepads that actually looks pretty good. (I never cared about Spyro).Insomniac 2012
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
Everyone seems to think EA is this evil publisher that has focused tested Fuse to death. Except there's the fact that Insomniac owns the IP and they themselves have started doing extensive focus testing before Fuse. There's an entire presentation on the internet about Resistance 3 that you can read. If Insomniac didn't want to have any control over the projects they make they wouldn't go through all this trouble to stay independant.
Zeouterlimits
Member
That's good to hear, I do hope it's a good game.Hopefully everyone will like our demo then
However I look at that screenshot and some others.... I cannot get excited about a TPS right now.
criesofthepast
Member
James has always been a good sport and constant professional. Can't be easy considering the beating Insomniac seem to get in every Insomniac related thread here post-Resistance 2. I remember when Insomniac were GAF's golden child.
I've said this before but, I'm honestly surprised he's stuck around lol. I think GAF has been a bit too harsh on Insomniac the past few years and more specifically now with FUSE.
Posts like these make me lose hope that GAF will improve in quality of posts next generation.
He has a lot of patience that's for damned sure.
JohnnySasaki86
Member
So your telling us it had nothing to do with ridiculously crowded Feb/March time frame?
Except it plays nothing like a mass market focus tested shooter.
Those games typically do not sell well, that's just as much of a crap shoot, possibly even more high risk.
There will be a demo. I've played two builds (two story sections, on MP section) and it was very fun to play, and challenging.
All of the previews and impressions have been almost glowing with enthusiasm. Granted, with press the way it is now, that's hard to take at face value, but it was the busiest game at EA's new years party, outpacing all the other shooters there for activity and wait time. People enjoyed it.
They couldn't be further apart. Silly comparison.
JohnnySasaki86
Member
Seriously I've only heard great things about this game from people who have played it, in the press and not. People on here that were posting separate from some websites and what not who have played it.
People need to fucking stop the extreme negativity. At the very least just be calm, and "nicer" about your doubts and complaints. Show some civility for once when it comes to Insomniac! You guys don't realize your affecting the success of this game! The extreme negativity on the internet about this game is created by GAF, its like a virus affecting the interwebs. Yes GAF you are powerful. Now stop.
(i.e. plz don't kill one of my favorite devs, insomniac.
)BruiserBear
Banned
Yeah, that post was particularly funny.
He's paid to have a lot of patience.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Seriously I've only heard great things about this game from people who have played it, in the press and not. People on here that were posting separate from some websites and what not who have played it.
People need to fucking stop the extreme negativity. At the very least just be calm, and "nicer" about your doubts and complaints. Show some civility for once when it comes to Insomniac! You guys don't realize your affecting the success of this game! The extreme negativity on the internet about this game is created by GAF, its like a virus affecting the interwebs. Yes GAF you are powerful. Now stop.
(i.e. plz don't kill one of my favorite devs, insomniac.
I agree the reception on this forum is terrible. GAF is out for blood it seems. It doesn't help that Insomniac has been heavily blasted too. I feel much of the criticism is unwarranted. Insomniac have a pretty good track record of making good games. Heck, I even enjoyed Resistance 2.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
He's paid to have a lot of patience.
GAF is an act of love.
flaxknuckles
Member
I would put money down on this game right now if there were a pc version, but I can't be bothered to plug my ps3 back in until The Last of Us comes out. I don't think I'll even pick this up on the cheap.
KimonoNoNo
Member
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I'd rather play the latter based on aesthetics.
To me Fuse seems like a good middle ground between Resistance and Ratchet aesthetic styles.(Hyper realism vs Saturday Morning Cartoon) Which seems more my speed than anything else they've ever made strictly based on that alone.
I did feel that way towards the initial trailer as well, and I am sad that the game is no longer in that style, but I don't think what it is currently is that bad.
Pretty relieved at the delay. Now I may consider picking it up at launch. (Unless another summer title I'm interested in comes through, like Wonderful 101)
Square Triangle
Member
This isn't just Insomniac, but the god damn industry.Insomniac 1998
Insomniac 2012
NullPointer
Member
Yeah, but which one?
Takamura-San
Member
Gaf Gold is where the cool kids post.
Imperial Hot
Banned
Bringing it back.
SENT TO DIE
SENT TO DIE
fizzelopeguss
Banned
EA has no faith that this can play with the big boys.
MrDanger88
Member
Stopped caring about this game a long, long time ago
What is with the stupid "why not cancel it" mentality?
Yet...here you are (probably not for the first time) telling everyone that you don't care. How self important, lol.
Because releasing and marketing a game costs money, and you have to sell into retail, and you have to deal with returns, and this is going to bomb. EA have canceled games last minute before.
I guess I'm missing the part where you tell me why this mentality isn't stupid?
They've already invested money in it, they're near completion, and it'll possibly be releasing during a time where the market isn't as crowded. Releasing next to a big seller isn't any worse than releasing near 4 or 5 decent sellers as it was previously going to be released.
Saying "cancel it" at this point is nothing short of adolescent, at best.
Takamura-San
Member
Why would it matter?
You're not going to play it anyways. Let those that want to buy the game have their day.
NullPointer
Member
Its like an RTS. If you cancel a structure before its finished its construction, you get all your resources back.
Duh.
:lol
Unfortunately this is how most of the gaming community thinks. I feel like they're so deeply invested in the "industry" and its inner-workings, yet somehow are amazingly detached from reality.
"OMG this PR is so insulting, it is lying right to my face!"
"The PR really isn't meant for you as the end consumer."
"WHAT?! Bull, why would they release it if it wasn't a statement directly intended for me?"
It can get absurd, for sure. We all get caught up in the moment though, and I suppose with a new generation on the cusp of announcement, the "whimsy" will only escalate from here. Be ready for some crazy, ladies and gents.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Forgive the text, I rambled a bit.
I could theoretically say the same thing about people who repeatedly call out those who are perceived as attacking the game in question.
Yeah, the hivemind is vicious sometimes, yes, but like as not, one random voice on the internet that's played and enjoyed the game isn't going to change anyone else's opinion.
If word of mouth/the demo is good, I'll look more into Fuse, but even though the hype may be negative (at least, based on this and past FUSE threads), aren't people allowed to express that on a message board to devoted to discussing their opinions on video games? Sure, some of it gets vitriolic/hyperbolic, but this isn't a "can only be positive opinions" board.
Without a demo for the rest of us who haven't played to judge, people can only rely on what they've seen/read, and most on the internet are skeptical enough not to rely on the words of CMs or whomever as gospel on how good a game is (though Jay is an awesome guy).
If the game is good, perception will change and word will get out for those who haven't written the game or Insomniac off. Haters are gonna hate and trolls will troll, but from what I've read of past FUSE threads, a good number of people appear to be honestly disappointed in the direction the game's taken.
I guess I just don't get what coming into every FUSE thread and attacking/harping on people who express negative opinions is good for. You discussing your experiences is fine (and I enjoyed reading about it in one of the other threads) but honorable though your intentions may be in defending the game, it's not likely to change a whole lot of opinions and just leads to the perception of your being just as biased in the opposite direction.
On topic, looking forward to the demo when it hits, the weapons tech and combinations appeal to the strategy/weapon combo fan in me.
I could theoretically say the same thing about people who repeatedly call out those who are perceived as attacking the game in question.
Yeah, the hivemind is vicious sometimes, yes, but like as not, one random voice on the internet that's played and enjoyed the game isn't going to change anyone else's opinion.
If word of mouth/the demo is good, I'll look more into Fuse, but even though the hype may be negative (at least, based on this and past FUSE threads), aren't people allowed to express that on a message board to devoted to discussing their opinions on video games? Sure, some of it gets vitriolic/hyperbolic, but this isn't a "can only be positive opinions" board.
Without a demo for the rest of us who haven't played to judge, people can only rely on what they've seen/read, and most on the internet are skeptical enough not to rely on the words of CMs or whomever as gospel on how good a game is (though Jay is an awesome guy).
If the game is good, perception will change and word will get out for those who haven't written the game or Insomniac off. Haters are gonna hate and trolls will troll, but from what I've read of past FUSE threads, a good number of people appear to be honestly disappointed in the direction the game's taken.
I guess I just don't get what coming into every FUSE thread and attacking/harping on people who express negative opinions is good for. You discussing your experiences is fine (and I enjoyed reading about it in one of the other threads) but honorable though your intentions may be in defending the game, it's not likely to change a whole lot of opinions and just leads to the perception of your being just as biased in the opposite direction.
On topic, looking forward to the demo when it hits, the weapons tech and combinations appeal to the strategy/weapon combo fan in me.
Was it adolescent of EA to cancel NBA Live 13 last minute? After they'd already invest money in it, and they were actually complete?
Takamura-San
Member
Posting negative opinions/impressions about the game is not bad. Is the vitriolic sense in which they are conveyed. I assume the Insomniac appreciates feedback, but Posting "Why they don't just cancel the game" helps no one and does little to contribute to the discussion.
At this point the game is what it is. I would presume people would have made peace with that. I would rather wait for the full product before passing judgement and how much it sucks and how badly will it play. But, that is just me.
Which version of the game did you play that told you that Fuse is in the same state as NBA Live 13?