PopcornMegaphone
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Good job, neogaf. The fail of the year got the recognition it deserves.
All FOIA requests regarding the FBI investigations have been denied so there is no more information currently.
Any particular reason you're so curious? You seem to be beating around the actual question you want to ask. I'd be happy to answer for you though.
I want people to be held accountable, and if so, reported, if they haven't already. I saw videos and links being posted of the types of people in question, so I figured at some point someone must have got busted, or at least hoped they did.
it'd be nice to have these peoples names or faces compiled into a list so they are no longer anonymous, and perhaps cut this thing off at the head.
Gamergate is a solid winner. To this day I have no idea what it means to be a pro or anti Gamergate, but the whole thing was just very shameful. That said I'm glad we don't have a new thread almost every day about race and gender in gaming, I think too much of that really started distracting from just playing games and having fun. Just a lot of assumptions and leaps of logic getting thrown around ultimately for nobody's benefit.
I want people to be held accountable, and if so, reported, if they haven't already. I saw videos and links being posted of the types of people in question, so I figured at some point someone must have got busted, or at least hoped they did.
it'd be nice to have these peoples names or faces compiled into a list so they are no longer anonymous, and perhaps cut this thing off at the head.
Ah, I see.
It's just hard to pin this kind of harassment down. Most of the people doing this have been doing it for the better part of their young lives and so have gotten very very good at deflecting and hiding.
Which is why the very best way to "handle" Gamergate is to unequivocally come out against it.
Something that many in the gaming industry have yet to do, for some reason.
Do you hate women? If the answer is no then you're anti Gamergate.
Do you hate women? If the answer is no then you're anti Gamergate.
Gamergate has nothing to do with Adam Orth, Reggie, Kamiya or anything like that. And it doesn't even matter because that's irrelevant. It's a big thing for the industry.if you actually play games and ignore all the extraneous shit like adam orth, reggie fils aime, hideki kamiya etc etc. etc. - then you would for real see that -
broken games caused the widest, largest fail of the year
One of two, or make it even 3, threads on the first page about social issues in games/the industry, really isn't that much.---
That said I'm glad we don't have a new thread almost every day about race and gender in gaming, I think too much of that really started distracting from just playing games and having fun. Just a lot of assumptions and leaps of logic getting thrown around ultimately for nobody's benefit.
I'm not sure if you're serious or not, but we can look at the movement's actions.Meh, it is impossible to even define gamergate, so I don't see how it qualifies.
Broken games haven't affected nearly every gamer either. Not nearly every gamer buys AAA games.I would have put broken games first. Why?
Because broken games affected nearly all gamers this year. But Gamergate affected a select few people. Hell, I don't know anyone outside of Gaf who even knows what Gamergate is (Even people on this forum are asking).
Nice, but despite the name GG is hardly related to gaming.
I think when all is said and done, I beleive RogueStar Gamez/Slade Villena will be one of the major ones to be arrested for his relentless assaults on people and doxxing IGF people. I'm sure he's on record somewhere when one doxxed address was actually to the FBI headquarters. He's former military so it shouldn't be hard to pull up his records or work history. He doesn't hide behind anything and wants his name to be known.
Just the FBI is taking its sweet time.
Yep, reading about race and gender in gaming distracts from playing games. As opposed to reading any other kinds of threads, which... don't distract from playing games? I don't get it :/Gamergate is a solid winner. To this day I have no idea what it means to be a pro or anti Gamergate, but the whole thing was just very shameful. That said I'm glad we don't have a new thread almost every day about race and gender in gaming, I think too much of that really started distracting from just playing games and having fun. Just a lot of assumptions and leaps of logic getting thrown around ultimately for nobody's benefit.
Yep, reading about race and gender in gaming distracts from playing games. As opposed to reading any other kinds of threads, which... don't distract from playing games? I don't get it :/
I'm not sure if you're being dense on purpose or if you really are taking the "No Girls Allowed" completely and 100% literally.
It relates more to the people who play and develop games more than anything else. If you are talking about games without taking into context who plays/makes them, Ubisoft is the clear winner.Nice, but despite the name GG is hardly related to gaming.
I've tried for weeks to figure out what the fuck gamergate was, is, and was trying to be. I still have nothing.
I didnt buy no MCC or Assassin's Creed, but I was affected by #GamerGate when people started giving me weird looks when they saw I liked games before I explained that I don't hate women.I would have put broken games first. Why?
Because broken games affected nearly all gamers this year. But Gamergate affected a select few people. Hell, I don't know anyone outside of Gaf who even knows what Gamergate is (Even people on this forum are asking).
I'm taking it literally, because if you want to give someone an explanation of what something is about it should be correct. I'm arguing that it is easily possible to describe the gamergate movement correctly, while still making clear why it's dangerous and that I think hyperbole like saying their stance is "no girls allowed" is not helping the cause but hurting it. Of course you can argue you only meant it figuratively, but then I have to say this is not a good way of explining what is happening, because when you say "it's figuratively akin to no girls allowed" different people will understand vastly different things and thus it doesn't explain anything but an emotion.
I believe that was the initial intent but what I see now are only pepole (from both sides) pushing their agendas. Feminism and what men think about it seems an interesting debate but it's a social issue not a gaming one.It's a backlash against socially liberal standpoints within video games and video game coverage/criticism.
I think a better way of putting it is that GGers are okay with women adapting to the "Boys' Club," but they're not okay with the "Boys' Club" adapting to complaints of women/minorities/feminists.
On the contrary I think it had the biggest direct effect on the gaming industry this year. Despite everyone clamoring about different broken games and how to fix them GG actually impacted the industry by driving out contributing female journalists and developers, permanently impacting the production of the industry now and discouraging who knows how many potential females wanting to get involved with it in the future.I believe that was the initial intent but what I see now are only pepole (from both sides) pushing their agendas. Feminism and what men think about it seems an interesting debate but it's a social issue not a gaming one.
I believe that was the initial intent but what I see now are only pepole (from both sides) pushing their agendas. Feminism and what men think about it seems an interesting debate but it's a social issue not a gaming one.
I believe that was the initial intent but what I see now are only pepole (from both sides) pushing their agendas. Feminism and what men think about it seems an interesting debate but it's a social issue not a gaming one.
I believe that was the initial intent but what I see now are only pepole (from both sides) pushing their agendas. Feminism and what men think about it seems an interesting debate but it's a social issue not a gaming one.
I didnt buy no MCC or Assassin's Creed, but I was affected by #GamerGate when people started giving me weird looks when they saw I liked games before I explained that I don't hate women.
I know people outside of GAF and outside of the industry who know what #GG is, and I haven't heard anyone outside of GAF complain about those games. My anecdote beats yours!
Really? Driveclub didn't make top 3? haha ok.
That's gotta be regional thing, right (US)? As a european, I doubt I'll find anyone, regardless if interested in gaming or not, that even has heard of the term gamergate.
I believe that was the initial intent but what I see now are only pepole (from both sides) pushing their agendas. Feminism and what men think about it seems an interesting debate but it's a social issue not a gaming one.
I'm taking it literally, because if you want to give someone an explanation of what something is about it should be correct. I'm arguing that it is easily possible to describe the gamergate movement correctly, while still making clear why it's dangerous and that I think hyperbole like saying their stance is "no girls allowed" is not helping the cause but hurting it. Of course you can argue you only meant it figuratively, but then I have to say this is not a good way of explining what is happening, because when you say "it's figuratively akin to no girls allowed" different people will understand vastly different things and thus it doesn't explain anything but an emotion.
I'm not sure if you're serious or not, but we can look at the movement's actions.
The logic they're working with is that the harassment is for a noble cause. Because things staying exactly the same, problems and all, is much more preferable than inclusiveness.
But can the idiots committing those action really be attributed to the movement as a whole? From an outsider perspective Gamergate seems to be far from the status of a unified movement that speaks with one voice.
It sounds like you've been following it pretty closely.
How did you not go with video gamer in name only -- vginos. Writes itself!How long before they start calling people G.I.N.O -- "Gamers in Name Only"? God, I probably shouldn't give them ideas, should I....
How did you not go with video gamer in name only -- vginos. Writes itself!
As someone in the industry GG was a dark episode, still echoing.
Sold the worst out of the three consoles, even with it's biggest hitters released.
Embarrassing, the console is a failure.
¯\_(ツ_/¯Actually no; I had a friend explain the situation to me a couple of weekends ago and this is what I've gathered from various comments and topics and so on. I've ventured into the Gamergate topics a couple of times but could not make sense of what was going on.
It's a backlash against socially liberal standpoints within video games and video game coverage/criticism.