GAF-Hop |OTXVII| I don't really care if /mu/ cry

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My thinking on it is that all that is stuff EL has to worry about because to us the damage to the community is done regardless of whatever happens with his situation.

Let’s be real, the girl could recant tomorrow but the admin team isn’t gonna unban all those people and I highly doubt they would wanna came back regardless.

I can’t say with certainty he’s guilty obviously, but his past is clearly sketchy, and his response to these allegations leaves a lot to be desired.

Again though, things won’t be the same. Even if he changes course from restricting politics and social issues so many notable members have commited account suicide these past few days that’s it’s hard to see this place continuing to be THE geek friendly, left leaning, one stop shop for nearly anything and still thriving like it used to be after this. The genie is out of the bottle and you already see so many juniors coming out of the woodwork wanting to bring things back to “games”.

I imagine it will continue on, some good people will stick around but it’s gonna be a minute until the new content creators and forum leaders emerge to drive discussion forward. To everyone else who was around before all this, the old neogaf is gone.
 
Nov 6, 2007
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My thinking on it is that all that is stuff EL has to worry about because to us the damage to the community is done regardless of whatever happens with his situation.

Let's be real, the girl could recant tomorrow but the admin team isn't gonna unban all those people and I highly doubt they would wanna came back regardless.

I can't say with certainty he's guilty obviously, but his past is clearly sketchy, and his response to these allegations leaves a lot to be desired.

Again though, things won't be the same. Even if he changes course from restricting politics and social issues so many notable members have commited account suicide these past few days that's it's hard to see this place continuing to be THE geek friendly, left leaning, one stop shop for nearly anything and still thriving like it used to be after this. The genie is out of the bottle and you already see so many juniors coming out of the woodwork wanting to bring things back to ”games".

I imagine it will continue on, some good people will stick around but it's gonna be a minute until the new content creators and forum leaders emerge to drive discussion forward. To everyone else who was around before all this, the old neogaf is gone.
Thanks again, everyone, for sharing over the years. Goddamn I'm gonna miss this place.
 
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Much love to everybody especially all my OGs, my podcast brethren who I'd hang with IRL any time if they were ever unlucky enough to find me in their city. Shout outs to Esch, Pinko, Enzo, Tguy, Boutdown, Blackace, Yoda, Kamspy, Siddx, Overcast, CRS, PD, Toku, Disco, Fjordson, Peter, Coldvein, Spin, Irish, WanderingWind, Net_Wrecker, Miri, Muddy, Hiilife, Shinobi, Soul Creator, Fixed, etc

If you were an OG and I forgot you please forgive me I'm getting old.
 
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I feel more compelled to chill and pass on the Discord/forum migration for now. I understand that the same people will be in the Discord, but it's not gonna be exactly the same, so I'll consider this the end of my involvement with the community. Don't feel like trying to salvage it. You can catch me on RYM though, later laters.

https://rateyourmusic.com/~Jurmainson

@Des you know where to find me
 
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You're an OG too my fault breh, much love to you
Breh I showed loved sporadically over the years lol. I'm just kinda shitty when it comes to being a consistent poster so I guess I never do it... idk... I'm regretting it now. I remember messaging you awhile back asking if I could use your quarterly top lists for a website. I'm so lazy I never even did that. FUCKKKKK I can't believe this. Des, where you going? I'd love to continue to lurk your posts. Maybe I'll even contribute more now that I know what it feels like to lose this.

I guess I'll add something of value (maybe?) before our departure...

I just discovered a Detroit artist (I live in Detroit) and can't tell if I think he's good because of my local bias or if he's actually good. Opinions on this dude? Feel free to say trash lol https://youtu.be/MjPgq52ibDY


Edit: omg lol, was going through my inbox and I remember sending you an adderall aided message in 2012. Those were my college days. I stay the fuck away from that now. Just funny to remember the good times. May as well post it here for the memories...

me to des in 2012 said:
Hey thanks for the Bronson recommendation. I don't know if you've ever given it any thought, but you would be great at running a hip hop blog. I feel like you're 2Dopeboyz before the acquisition by Complex plus some.

I feel like there's always room for a new, better hip hop blog. 2dbz has become so bloated. Almost looks like MySpace.

I've been lurking GAF HOP since the first one, don't post much, but you've become and maintained your spot as my #1 source for good hip hop (don't venture to the headphones thread much, but I see you know that area pretty well too). You're the reason I listened to Kendrick Lamar in 2010, you got me into Danny Brown and I'm from MI (how was I sleeping?!), and there are countless others.

I always bookmark your review threads, I just don't have the ability to go through as much music and judge it so accurately at the same pace as you. I basically just really want you to start a hip hop blog/review site (like Hip Hop DX fucked 2Dopeboyz, and their kid fucked Allhip....), hell even a headphone editorial once a month or something?

Sorry for the rant... took too much adderall today. Red Bull didn't fucking help. Guess I just wanted to give you a long overdue thanks, and I hope you keep doing what you're doing.
There's some love from way back :D

Thanks again dude



I miss Esch, PD, Recon Yoda, etc... does anyone know where Esch landed? I know he was at the bore for awhile, but checked that site out earlier and it seems to no longer exist? I've got like a fuckin knot in my stomach and I barely interacted with you guys. I've just read your names pretty much daily for a decade. God fucking damnit


Edit again: Des put me on Kendrick before Dre even heard of him. Crazy. I remember showing my friends the Michael Jordan video and they were like what the fuck is this... now the dude who talked the most shit has a signed Damn vinyl. Can't believe this shit.
 
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Why did so many of y'all wait until the community died to show love?
I’ve been thinking about this since I read your post.

At first I didn’t know. The more I thought about, I think the main reason is because I took y’all for granted. I didn’t need to actively participate because I knew I could come here daily and things would be cool without me. I knew what to expect and I guess I didn’t want to mess with the formula. It’s weird, and doesn’t make much sense, but I almost had personas in my mind for everyone. You really get to know people through their posts.I loved yours and Esch’s discussions. And enzo, Toku, PD, Yoda, Irish, Peterboy, Overcast, siddx, ace, ton I’m forgetting.

I naively assumed NeoGAF would just always be around. I think I first visited in 2006. Account in 2007. With such a large community I really didn’t think one bad apple could cause the entire thing to implode.

I guess the one thing I’ll take away from this is I should be a participant and not an observer. I can’t count on the platform to last forever, but if I would’ve built relationships myself instead of just watching them be built, I wouldn’t feel so bad after the platform’s inevitable death.

Take it easy y’all.
 

PBY

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Dec 12, 2007
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Won't be around much longer, but just echoing the above.

This place was incredible, and its a testament to its staying power that its survived close to 10 years. Shout out all the original posters, its been an awesome decade.
 
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wish i had a chance to be apart of this community. reading the parting messages is a reality check to all the memorable times people have had here.

i love hip-hop and living in Portland, OR all my life there isn't a huge scene for it, so this would have been a great place to learn about some serious talent out there.

hopefully i'll get a chance to be apart of it someday at another forum. wish you all well.
 
Jun 2, 2012
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insane how vitriolic gaming side has gotten already...

if you want to know what evilore should have done, he should have stepped aside and let someone else, or a group of individuals, take control of Neogaf. what he should NOT have done is all ban political and "social" discussion and delete the entirety of off topic. i would say his accused actions don't matter as much as the actions he took afterwards.
 

Blackthorn

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If anyone is still here and wants a PM to the Discord let me know soon.
I’d also like to get in on this.

I mostly lurked here so I doubt anyone noted my presence, but I relied on this thread for so much of my new music recommendations (and some old too).

Feel literally sick about the way this forum’s been wrecked so I’d love the chance to keep engaged with the community.
 
Mar 17, 2016
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Probably won't go in the Discord.
Not even sure whether I'll post here anymore.
Might just be done with forums, this was the last one I posted on regularly.
Will probably stick to Redit and FB groups from this point on.